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Posted: April 14 2013 at 16:54

Originally posted by zumacraig

Okay, does anyone care to speculate on what the new TA will be like.

I hope they do something that they haven't done before. Perhaps do a song or two which is in a different style to what they've done before. But saying 'a song or two' for TA pretty much means half the albumTongue

Something which annoyed me about The Whirlwind was that whenever a new melody or a musical idea was introduced, it wouldn't be played for too long before they went back to the main theme/melody of the whole album. Not that it's a bad theme/melody, but imho they played it way too much on the album. Of course this didn't happen with every musical idea/song; there are plenty of instances where I think they developed the ideas well, but for songs such as "Out of the Night", I think they could have pulled it off better.

But, nevertheless, I'm still very much looking forward to the next album.
]]> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 16:54:40 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759411#4759411 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by richardh Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759266#4759266 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 14 2013 at 12:48

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by zumacraig

So no one wants to make a counter argument to my points above? Just be the tone police? Delusion wins again and I most certainly don't know The Truth. Neal seems to think he does

no he doesn't, This doesn't need to be a discussion about religion but if it must... 
God doesn't allow anything. Apparently he created us to be his will but he gave us the freedom to choose which way we want to go. Otherwise what is the point of freewill if you don't suffer the consequences? The world is f**ked up because we f**ked it up. Break the cycle means not repeating the mistakes but we repeat the mistakes of our fathers and our fathers fathers etc etc. Its to do with 'original sin'.Anyway I'm no preacher that's for sure.Any chance we can get this thread away from your own fixations?

at the risk of of perpetuating my fixationWink...i totally agree with you; the world is f'd up because we f'd up.  the cause is probably more stupidity than original sin.  man i'm so fixated on this stuffCool

Okay, does anyone care to speculate on what the new TA will be like.  I for one hope they let Pete sing a bit.  I love his song on the bonus disc of Whirlwind.  I know it's their thing to write epically long epics, but i'm not sure they have enough good stuff to make one.  maybe they do.  i would mind some mini epics and a few songs and real collaboration.  i do hope they stick with the production sound that was on Whirlwind.  that disc was produced impeccably.  i prefer an in the room feel over the live reverberd production that seems to be the status quo these days on prog records.
]]> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 12:48:06 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759266#4759266 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by AlexDOM Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759114#4759114 Author: Morsenator
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Posted: April 14 2013 at 06:05

Originally posted by AlexDOM

Originally posted by Morsenator

I'd love to get Momentum live, but it's currently like 36€ in every store I've noticed which I decided, even for being probably a kick ass dvd from my favourite artist is a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a single thing Cry

I think I'm gonna wait until the prices drop a third or something. I did check out the songs on his YT channel when he posted them and almost hurt my neck during The Conflict HeadbangerBig smile

PROGGIN HARD!!!

Yep. By the way that is one cool avatar you got there Wink
]]> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 06:05:09 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759114#4759114 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigSo... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759036#4759036 Author: richardh
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Posted: April 14 2013 at 02:11

Originally posted by zumacraig

So no one wants to make a counter argument to my points above? Just be the tone police? Delusion wins again and I most certainly don't know The Truth. Neal seems to think he does

no he doesn't, This doesn't need to be a discussion about religion but if it must... 
God doesn't allow anything. Apparently he created us to be his will but he gave us the freedom to choose which way we want to go. Otherwise what is the point of freewill if you don't suffer the consequences? The world is f**ked up because we f**ked it up. Break the cycle means not repeating the mistakes but we repeat the mistakes of our fathers and our fathers fathers etc etc. Its to do with 'original sin'.Anyway I'm no preacher that's for sure.Any chance we can get this thread away from your own fixations?
]]> Sun, 14 Apr 2013 02:11:01 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759036#4759036 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraig Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759005#4759005 Author: AlexDOM
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 23:58

Originally posted by zumacraig

Originally posted by darkshade

I'm personally staying away until we get back to the music.

Darkshade...Come back!

Incidentally, I wasn't really surprised when Neal 'went christian'.  lots of his music had a kind of spiritual yearning and looking for a savior.  The Light, The Great Nothing, Snow, Doorway.

The guy can write hooks in his sleep and I'll be interested how the new TA takes shape.



Super stoked for that!!!!
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:58:35 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759005#4759005 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by MorsenatorI'd... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759004#4759004 Author: AlexDOM
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 23:58

Originally posted by Morsenator

I'd love to get Momentum live, but it's currently like 36€ in every store I've noticed which I decided, even for being probably a kick ass dvd from my favourite artist is a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a single thing Cry

I think I'm gonna wait until the prices drop a third or something. I did check out the songs on his YT channel when he posted them and almost hurt my neck during The Conflict HeadbangerBig smile

PROGGIN HARD!!!
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 23:58:09 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4759004#4759004 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by darkshadeI'm... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758865#4758865 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 16:58

Originally posted by darkshade

I'm personally staying away until we get back to the music.

Darkshade...Come back!

Incidentally, I wasn't really surprised when Neal 'went christian'.  lots of his music had a kind of spiritual yearning and looking for a savior.  The Light, The Great Nothing, Snow, Doorway.

The guy can write hooks in his sleep and I'll be interested how the new TA takes shape.


]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 16:58:20 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758865#4758865 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I'd love to get Momentum... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758795#4758795 Author: Morsenator
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 14:53

I'd love to get Momentum live, but it's currently like 36€ in every store I've noticed which I decided, even for being probably a kick ass dvd from my favourite artist is a ridiculous amount of money to spend on a single thing Cry

I think I'm gonna wait until the prices drop a third or something. I did check out the songs on his YT channel when he posted them and almost hurt my neck during The Conflict HeadbangerBig smile
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 14:53:12 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758795#4758795 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigNot... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758725#4758725 Author: AlexDOM
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 12:51

Originally posted by zumacraig

Not bitter at all, just interested in 'truth' and awake.  Drop God/Jesus from your worldview and really think about why you believe what you believe.  The implications of Morse's claims are insidious and dangerous, not to mention naive.  This kind of delusion must be confronted at all costs.  Morse and you simplify life's issues to a point of absolute ridiculousness and willful ignorance.  The fact that you are basing your world views on an ancient storybook is absurd as are Morse's lyrics.  And you take absolutely no responsibility for the implications of your beliefs.  I can understand delusion though.  It really does keep folks from seeing what is really going on, but the flip side is that it turns people into mindless followers of nothing and emotional reactionaries when it comes to the issues that are killing the human race...war, hunger, health care.  If God is all powerful, then why do these things happen.  And if he does allow these things to happen, then he is most certainly not worthy of any worship.  It's all a house of cards.  Life is now, here, people are suffering.  

BTW, I was not the one to bring up this issue.  I was responding to another comment here.

I can understand some of your objections which are legitimate. I wrestle with them too. The fact that you're in such opposition however does increase what I believe in all the more...

but anyway this is about Morse, who makes killer music. Was watching the live Momentum blue ray yesterday. Incredible stuff!!! Any opinions on that live concert?


Edited by AlexDOM - April 13 2013 at 12:53]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:51:29 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758725#4758725 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigSo... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758716#4758716 Author: Biff Tannen
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 12:32

Originally posted by zumacraig

So no one wants to make a counter argument to my points above? Just be the tone police? Delusion wins again and I most certainly don't know The Truth. Neal seems to think he does

Ever thing that many of us don't give a sh*t and just love Neal's music for what it is, lyrics and all? 
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:32:12 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758716#4758716 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I'm personally staying away... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758710#4758710 Author: darkshade
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 12:21

I'm personally staying away until we get back to the music.]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:21:18 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758710#4758710 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : So no one wants to make a counter... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758705#4758705 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 12:17

So no one wants to make a counter argument to my points above? Just be the tone police? Delusion wins again and I most certainly don't know The Truth. Neal seems to think he does ]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 12:17:06 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758705#4758705 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigA... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758467#4758467 Author: richardh
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 03:00

Originally posted by zumacraig

A Morse bashing thread would probably get deleted.  So here we are.  I guess I shouldn't care about what Morse's lyrics are.  I used to be more of a 'live and let live' kind of person.  However, I can't keep quiet when delusion prevails in art, discussion etc.  Dismissing my post as uninteresting and unintelligent is predictable.  I made controversial comments.  If that's not interesting, then what is?  Talking about how passionate Neal is?  Passionately delusional.  He's sticking with the fundamentalism because he makes money off of it.  For many, it doesn't hold up for long because reality is hard to ignore.  Just take a minute and take Neal's assertions about his daughter to their logical conclusion.  Hint, god saved only his kid that day?  What about all the rest of the kids who died that day?  That is where I start not from the assumption that the god of the bible is real and nice.  He's quite an unstable god in the great books.

'Delusion prevails' in many things. The world is broken havn't you noticed. if North Korea launches nuclear missiles at South Korea and China and American get involved then we are right royally f**ked.

I come here to discuss music. Neal is perfectly entitled to believe what he wants and so are you. You believe you are the keeper of the truth presumably?

This thread is really not about you and what you think about religion but you seem to be unable to grasp that.

BTW for what's its worth I think all organised religion is bollocks. You should sort yourself out first and worry about what others are doing second. I also happen to believe in God as is my want. But that has bugger all to do with this forum.
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 03:00:51 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758467#4758467 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigA... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758403#4758403 Author: Biff Tannen
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Posted: April 13 2013 at 00:23

Originally posted by zumacraig

A Morse bashing thread would probably get deleted.  So here we are.  I guess I shouldn't care about what Morse's lyrics are.  I used to be more of a 'live and let live' kind of person.  However, I can't keep quiet when delusion prevails in art, discussion etc.  Dismissing my post as uninteresting and unintelligent is predictable.  I made controversial comments.  If that's not interesting, then what is?  Talking about how passionate Neal is?  Passionately delusional.  He's sticking with the fundamentalism because he makes money off of it.  For many, it doesn't hold up for long because reality is hard to ignore.  Just take a minute and take Neal's assertions about his daughter to their logical conclusion.  Hint, god saved only his kid that day?  What about all the rest of the kids who died that day?  That is where I start not from the assumption that the god of the bible is real and nice.  He's quite an unstable god in the great books.

Um, what?  Do you really think Neal is raking in the big bucks playing the music he plays and with the lyrics he writes?  I doubt it. 
]]> Sat, 13 Apr 2013 00:23:57 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758403#4758403 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Not bitter at all, just interested... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758226#4758226 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 18:06

Not bitter at all, just interested in 'truth' and awake.  Drop God/Jesus from your worldview and really think about why you believe what you believe.  The implications of Morse's claims are insidious and dangerous, not to mention naive.  This kind of delusion must be confronted at all costs.  Morse and you simplify life's issues to a point of absolute ridiculousness and willful ignorance.  The fact that you are basing your world views on an ancient storybook is absurd as are Morse's lyrics.  And you take absolutely no responsibility for the implications of your beliefs.  I can understand delusion though.  It really does keep folks from seeing what is really going on, but the flip side is that it turns people into mindless followers of nothing and emotional reactionaries when it comes to the issues that are killing the human race...war, hunger, health care.  If God is all powerful, then why do these things happen.  And if he does allow these things to happen, then he is most certainly not worthy of any worship.  It's all a house of cards.  Life is now, here, people are suffering.  

BTW, I was not the one to bring up this issue.  I was responding to another comment here.
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 18:06:43 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758226#4758226 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigA... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758195#4758195 Author: AlexDOM
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 16:45

Originally posted by zumacraig

A Morse bashing thread would probably get deleted.  So here we are.  I guess I shouldn't care about what Morse's lyrics are.  I used to be more of a 'live and let live' kind of person.  However, I can't keep quiet when delusion prevails in art, discussion etc.  Dismissing my post as uninteresting and unintelligent is predictable.  I made controversial comments.  If that's not interesting, then what is?  Talking about how passionate Neal is?  Passionately delusional.  He's sticking with the fundamentalism because he makes money off of it.  For many, it doesn't hold up for long because reality is hard to ignore.  Just take a minute and take Neal's assertions about his daughter to their logical conclusion.  Hint, god saved only his kid that day?  What about all the rest of the kids who died that day?  That is where I start not from the assumption that the god of the bible is real and nice.  He's quite an unstable god in the great books.

I sense a lot of bitterness, I just want to say that it's ok. There are things that I still do not understand. But hey if a miracle happened would you not expect someone to be passionate about the source, which to Neal is Jesus.  
And I think controversial comments are interesting, I've made them on the gay marriage thread based on my Biblical convictions, and literally hell was raised and people started criticizing me, my faith, the Bible, God, etc. (which I'm not surprised by at all).

I could make the same claim that people who do not follow Christ are passionately delusional. Actually I'll change that. They are, but I could be in the very same boat. We either accept or reject Jesus Christ. And Mr. Morse accepted Him, and you can tell that is what he is passionate about. 

I feel like most artists are passionately delusional. I love love Opeth, but massively disagree on what they believe. I believe they are under a passionate delusion but they still make sick music.
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 16:45:31 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758195#4758195 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : A Morse bashing thread would probably... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758167#4758167 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 15:52

A Morse bashing thread would probably get deleted.  So here we are.  I guess I shouldn't care about what Morse's lyrics are.  I used to be more of a 'live and let live' kind of person.  However, I can't keep quiet when delusion prevails in art, discussion etc.  Dismissing my post as uninteresting and unintelligent is predictable.  I made controversial comments.  If that's not interesting, then what is?  Talking about how passionate Neal is?  Passionately delusional.  He's sticking with the fundamentalism because he makes money off of it.  For many, it doesn't hold up for long because reality is hard to ignore.  Just take a minute and take Neal's assertions about his daughter to their logical conclusion.  Hint, god saved only his kid that day?  What about all the rest of the kids who died that day?  That is where I start not from the assumption that the god of the bible is real and nice.  He's quite an unstable god in the great books.]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 15:52:59 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758167#4758167 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by Morsenator Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758136#4758136 Author: richardh
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 14:40

Originally posted by Morsenator

Originally posted by AlexDOM

Originally posted by richardh

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.


So so so true. I am in total agreement


Indeed. Neal is pretty much the most inspirational musician I am aware of. His albums (solo, TA, SB, even some of the worship stuff) hook me up from the first moments I hear them and lead to journeys of various emotions, wonders and landscapes of thoughts. They have had much healing and positive effect in my life. I can see some of the criticism legitimate (his often repeating concepts, for example), but he rarely leaves anyone cold at least. It is rare today to find a musician whose focus is in the spirit of the music and connecting with people through it and not in technicality, hipsterness, sales, overblown criticism of things etc.

great to hear he has had such a positive affect on your life and also that last comment is spot onCool
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:40:26 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758136#4758136 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by infandousI... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758134#4758134 Author: richardh
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 14:38

Originally posted by infandous

I have been critical of his lyrics (and not just because they are Christian), but his music is generally fabulous.  No, it's not groundbreaking and he certainly has his "patented prog rock formula" (which I happen to love), but I agree with the other posters that his music is filled with emotion and "feel".  He's a very genuine artist who puts all he's got into everything he does, something I appreciate very much, even if I don't always share the sentiments of the lyrics.

In essence what I wanted to say but much better Clap
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 14:38:35 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4758134#4758134 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I have been critical of his lyrics... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757946#4757946 Author: infandous
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 08:50

I have been critical of his lyrics (and not just because they are Christian), but his music is generally fabulous.  No, it's not groundbreaking and he certainly has his "patented prog rock formula" (which I happen to love), but I agree with the other posters that his music is filled with emotion and "feel".  He's a very genuine artist who puts all he's got into everything he does, something I appreciate very much, even if I don't always share the sentiments of the lyrics.]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 08:50:45 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757946#4757946 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by AlexDOM Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757862#4757862 Author: Morsenator
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 02:44

Originally posted by AlexDOM

Originally posted by richardh

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.


So so so true. I am in total agreement


Indeed. Neal is pretty much the most inspirational musician I am aware of. His albums (solo, TA, SB, even some of the worship stuff) hook me up from the first moments I hear them and lead to journeys of various emotions, wonders and landscapes of thoughts. They have had much healing and positive effect in my life. I can see some of the criticism legitimate (his often repeating concepts, for example), but he rarely leaves anyone cold at least. It is rare today to find a musician whose focus is in the spirit of the music and connecting with people through it and not in technicality, hipsterness, sales, overblown criticism of things etc.
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 02:44:26 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757862#4757862 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by brainstormer Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757836#4757836 Author: richardh
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Posted: April 12 2013 at 01:47

Originally posted by brainstormer

Originally posted by richardh

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.

Well, I wanted to edit what I said down a bit....it was early in the morning.....I am not saying Morse sounds
band or I won't listen to him in the future, but you did say he was a modern day Keith Emerson, which
to me is saying quite a certain thing. 

When one calls for an appreciation thread, that at allows us who would never consider the artist
after a few listens to give our opinion of him.  We are giving you the honor of appreciating an artist again,
reconsidering him, and at least allow you to defend the artist.  So, any criticism that is done in a spirit of
furthering a true discussion of music should still be seen in the spirit of the thread.

IMHO, I have never heard Neal Morse create one original use of modes or harmony.  He can play fast, but I have never
heard him write anything in an music theory innovation way, that Emerson has clearly proven himself to have done.  
I would not say that Morse is a modern day Keith Emerson.  I have to admit I haven't heard all Morse's
material, but I have listened to about an hour of it and I only come back to it time to time because of the
lyrics and spirit it's written in.  I've talked about this before.  I think the first wave of progressive rockers seem to have more of a well-rounded education, and tend to appreciate avant-garde or deep classical easier.  Witness the obscure composers Emerson sometime's quotes from.  The second wave of progressive rock seems to not have
a deep education in many areas and so much of their music seems kind of blues scale focused, or
stays in the modes and harmonies already explored by the first wave of prog rock.


I do think though that these type of threads are for fans and you are clearly not. To be honest I hadn't read your earlier post and was just picking up on Zumacraig's comment. He has done this before and he adds nothing of intererest. You on the other hand are obviously a very intelligent poster with an interesting musical outlook. Personally I don't get too hung up on comparing modern artists with the classic prog artists. It was extremely lazy of me to compare Morse with Emerson.  I'm a big ELP fan and Keith is my hero so what I was really doing was giving some support to Neal who I like very much for reasons I explained. The comparison I made was just on his technical ability which is on a level with Emerson imo.
]]> Fri, 12 Apr 2013 01:47:56 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757836#4757836 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by richardhThere... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757381#4757381 Author: AlexDOM
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Posted: April 11 2013 at 09:37

Originally posted by richardh

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.


So so so true. I am in total agreement
]]> Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:37:17 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757381#4757381 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother`Freak'... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757377#4757377 Author: AEProgman
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 11 2013 at 09:27

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

`Freak' still doens't do much for me though lol!
Freak was a head scratcher for me as well.  Sort of a Beatles Eleanor Rigby sound to it.
 
His first 3 solo albums, Testimony, One, and ? blew me away.  His hooks always grab me like a "Fish". Wink
]]> Thu, 11 Apr 2013 09:27:50 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757377#4757377 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Listened to `Momentum' twice... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757362#4757362 Author: Aussie-Byrd-Brother
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 11 2013 at 08:42

Listened to `Momentum' twice today, just reaffirms to me that Morse is simply one of the best (if not the best) modern prog artists when it comes to placing just as much emphasis on superb hooks, harmonies and catchy vocal sections as super-prog workouts and extended instrumental flashiness. That album has so much uptempo energy!

`Freak' still doens't do much for me though lol! ]]> Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:42:52 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757362#4757362 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by richardhThere... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757355#4757355 Author: brainstormer
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 11 2013 at 08:20

Originally posted by richardh

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.

Well, I wanted to edit what I said down a bit....it was early in the morning.....I am not saying Morse sounds
band or I won't listen to him in the future, but you did say he was a modern day Keith Emerson, which
to me is saying quite a certain thing. 

When one calls for an appreciation thread, that at allows us who would never consider the artist
after a few listens to give our opinion of him.  We are giving you the honor of appreciating an artist again,
reconsidering him, and at least allow you to defend the artist.  So, any criticism that is done in a spirit of
furthering a true discussion of music should still be seen in the spirit of the thread.

IMHO, I have never heard Neal Morse create one original use of modes or harmony.  He can play fast, but I have never
heard him write anything in an music theory innovation way, that Emerson has clearly proven himself to have done.  
I would not say that Morse is a modern day Keith Emerson.  I have to admit I haven't heard all Morse's
material, but I have listened to about an hour of it and I only come back to it time to time because of the
lyrics and spirit it's written in.  I've talked about this before.  I think the first wave of progressive rockers seem to have more of a well-rounded education, and tend to appreciate avant-garde or deep classical easier.  Witness the obscure composers Emerson sometime's quotes from.  The second wave of progressive rock seems to not have
a deep education in many areas and so much of their music seems kind of blues scale focused, or
stays in the modes and harmonies already explored by the first wave of prog rock.



Edited by brainstormer - April 11 2013 at 12:18]]> Thu, 11 Apr 2013 08:20:56 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757355#4757355 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : There is too much prog that lacks... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757234#4757234 Author: richardh
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 11 2013 at 01:51

There is too much prog that lacks balls for me. Morse doesn't lack any. His passion and drive is very evident and helps makes the music so exciting. I also like the fact that he works mainly with a 3 peice format in the studio. That gives him plenty of space in the music. Its easy to forget that Neal is one of the best keyboard players in modern prog and could quite easily be viewed as a modern day Keith Emerson.

btw I wish certain people would respect the thread. Somewhat ironic that Zumacraig is accusing Neal of being 'infantile'.
]]> Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:51:31 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4757234#4757234 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I mentioned a year or two ago... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756952#4756952 Author: brainstormer
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 10 2013 at 17:37

I mentioned a year or two ago that I would be listening more to Morse, and I am appreciating
him in that he sees music as an avenue for ministry, as most of the great composers have.
I have to say that I'm a Christian but I never picked up getting ministered that much by Neal Morse.
It's not that I think he's a bad representative, but I guess I'm a first wave progressive rocker, 
and a lot of the 90's bands are lost on me.  I started liking music just for music sake 
pretty much into my late teens, as Fripp and co. were going that
direction also, it seemed a "Prog" enough thing to do.  Ronnie Martin's Joy Electric, esp. the
Melody album would be a good example of "progressive Christian music," as is the first
three King's X albums.  I like Rick Wakeman's Christian outings also.  I wish he would do
more of that kind of thing.  The CD by a band called "Wisdom" is the best Christian progressive
rock I've heard to date.   The album is called Face to Face.



Edited by brainstormer - April 10 2013 at 17:38]]> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:37:54 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756952#4756952 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigNeal's... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756933#4756933 Author: AlexDOM
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 10 2013 at 17:13

Originally posted by zumacraig

Neal's lyrics are delusional and infantile. Although it seems he's unware, his crusade is quit sinister and takes absolutely no responsibility for it's genocidal end game.

This is an appreciation thread not bashing thread. PUH-LEASE!!!
]]> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 17:13:14 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756933#4756933 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Neal's lyrics are delusional... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756872#4756872 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 10 2013 at 15:48

Neal's lyrics are delusional and infantile. Although it seems he's unware, his crusade is quit sinister and takes absolutely no responsibility for it's genocidal end game.]]> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 15:48:34 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756872#4756872 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : freyacat, it's true that... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756677#4756677 Author: AlexDOM
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 10 2013 at 10:49

[QUOTE=Biff Tannen]freyacat, it's true that Neal's spiritual lyrics are way more obvious than Roine's are, but I still think they are not as overtly blatant as many do.  But that's just me. 

Neal's lyrics aren't so much spiritual, there are more blatant Christian-themed. 


]]> Wed, 10 Apr 2013 10:49:02 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756677#4756677 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I just deleted a response! I'll... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756204#4756204 Author: zumacraig
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Posted: April 09 2013 at 17:27

I just deleted a response!

I'll say for now is that Roine is more of a universalist deist rather than a Christian.]]> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 17:27:02 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756204#4756204 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : freyacat, it's true that... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756037#4756037 Author: Biff Tannen
Subject: 76977
Posted: April 09 2013 at 13:40

freyacat, it's true that Neal's spiritual lyrics are way more obvious than Roine's are, but I still think they are not as overtly blatant as many do.  But that's just me. 

Also, out of curiosity, what is the anti-Catholic slander on Sola Scriptura that you spoke of?? 
]]> Tue, 09 Apr 2013 13:40:51 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4756037#4756037 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by freyacat When... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4738563#4738563 Author: AlexDOM
Subject: 76977
Posted: March 13 2013 at 18:00

Originally posted by freyacat

When I discovered Neal Morse and Spock's Beard spearheading a Progressive Rock resurrection in the 90's, I was overjoyed.  I heard passionate, brilliant composion and playing from this man, and attention to narrative and meaning in his lyrics.
Sadly, however, he fell victim to the Christian Music Heresy.  A few musicians have fallen prey to this thinking, and it usually destroys their music.
 
The idea is that you can't be making music that pleases God, or music that lives out your faith, unless the lyrics are quoting scripture or doctrine.
 
It is ironic that his Transatlantic band-mate, Roine Stolt, makes much more creative music about Jesus, but most people would never detect it, because Roine's lyrics are so poetic and mystical.
 
Anyway, I found much of "Snow" to be brilliant, walking right up to that line between making rock music and evangelism, but once Neal Morse decided to label himself a "Christian Musician," he lost me.
 
Of particular annoyance to me is the Sola Scriptura album, which recasts Martin Luther, a brilliant liberal thinker and revolutionary, into an evangelical Christian poster boy.  Along the way, Neal also manages to perpetuate some anti-Catholic slander.
 
I only hope that Transatlantic does not permit Neal Morse to hijack their efforts for his theological agenda any more.  "The Whirlwind" was severely hampered by its "Left Behind" lyrical themes.  Not good music, or good Christianity, even. 

Not much appreciation for Neal on a Neal Morse appreciation thread.
]]> Wed, 13 Mar 2013 18:00:23 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4738563#4738563 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : When I discovered Neal Morse... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4738411#4738411 Author: freyacat
Subject: 76977
Posted: March 13 2013 at 13:22

When I discovered Neal Morse and Spock's Beard spearheading a Progressive Rock resurrection in the 90's, I was overjoyed.  I heard passionate, brilliant composion and playing from this man, and attention to narrative and meaning in his lyrics.
Sadly, however, he fell victim to the Christian Music Heresy.  A few musicians have fallen prey to this thinking, and it usually destroys their music.
 
The idea is that you can't be making music that pleases God, or music that lives out your faith, unless the lyrics are quoting scripture or doctrine.
 
It is ironic that his Transatlantic band-mate, Roine Stolt, makes much more creative music about Jesus, but most people would never detect it, because Roine's lyrics are so poetic and mystical.
 
Anyway, I found much of "Snow" to be brilliant, walking right up to that line between making rock music and evangelism, but once Neal Morse decided to label himself a "Christian Musician," he lost me.
 
Of particular annoyance to me is the Sola Scriptura album, which recasts Martin Luther, a brilliant liberal thinker and revolutionary, into an evangelical Christian poster boy.  Along the way, Neal also manages to perpetuate some anti-Catholic slander.
 
I only hope that Transatlantic does not permit Neal Morse to hijack their efforts for his theological agenda any more.  "The Whirlwind" was severely hampered by its "Left Behind" lyrical themes.  Not good music, or good Christianity, even. 
]]> Wed, 13 Mar 2013 13:22:36 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4738411#4738411 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I saw both NM and TFK last year,... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4732764#4732764 Author: Morsenator
Subject: 76977
Posted: March 04 2013 at 04:02

I saw both NM and TFK last year, so I'm not that disappointed that they are not coming to Finland this time. Both gigs were wonderful and very memorable. Tongue Neal pulled The Creation and Sola Medley and Flower Kings did Numbers and The Truth Will Set You Free, so the epicness level was pretty acceptably reached. I hope that TA would come here some day.. that would be a dream come true. Or I'll just have to travel to Germany etc. for them, for the heck of it.]]> Mon, 04 Mar 2013 04:02:46 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4732764#4732764 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Great List! Great artist! Forums... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4732561#4732561 Author: jdredfield
Subject: 76977
Posted: March 03 2013 at 19:47

Great List! Great artist! Forums like this give me hope for the future of music...  and the world Clap]]> Sun, 03 Mar 2013 19:47:51 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4732561#4732561 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : I feel so jealous of those able... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4728740#4728740 Author: appudds
Subject: 76977
Posted: February 25 2013 at 10:22

I feel so jealous of those able to watch the magic of the Neal Morse band and TFK with a TA encore!!
BTW, I always had this doubt.
Do Randy George and Mike Portnoy have the independence in their bass work/drumming or does Neal Morse actually come up with the bass/drum part ideas and ask them to play it for his solo albums?
I think Randy George and Portnoy have a say in the writing process or else, Morse could simply have played everything by himself  Tongue
]]> Mon, 25 Feb 2013 10:22:58 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4728740#4728740 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by Ytse_Jam Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4710132#4710132 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 27 2013 at 22:39

Originally posted by Ytse_Jam

Originally posted by zumacraig

i've been meaning to check out proto-kaw.  

yeah, roine definitely alludes to god in his lyrics.  one thing i get tired of in neal's lyrics is the 'new beginning' lyrics.  it's all about weathering the storm and coming out the other side.  Momentum and Flying Colors cover this theme too.  i guess that's his shtick.  his theology is quite infantile.

neal and Flower kings are touring together with mike portnoy this spring.  looks like a transatlantic encore.
Portnoy actually posted on Facebook he's reviewing some Transatlantic material for the upcoming tour..!

cool.  wonder what they'll pull together.  
]]> Sun, 27 Jan 2013 22:39:10 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4710132#4710132 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by zumacraigi've... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4707812#4707812 Author: Ytse_Jam
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 25 2013 at 04:18

Originally posted by zumacraig

i've been meaning to check out proto-kaw.  

yeah, roine definitely alludes to god in his lyrics.  one thing i get tired of in neal's lyrics is the 'new beginning' lyrics.  it's all about weathering the storm and coming out the other side.  Momentum and Flying Colors cover this theme too.  i guess that's his shtick.  his theology is quite infantile.

neal and Flower kings are touring together with mike portnoy this spring.  looks like a transatlantic encore.
Portnoy actually posted on Facebook he's reviewing some Transatlantic material for the upcoming tour..!
]]> Fri, 25 Jan 2013 04:18:27 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4707812#4707812 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : i've been meaning to check... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704927#4704927 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 21 2013 at 16:26

i've been meaning to check out proto-kaw.  

yeah, roine definitely alludes to god in his lyrics.  one thing i get tired of in neal's lyrics is the 'new beginning' lyrics.  it's all about weathering the storm and coming out the other side.  Momentum and Flying Colors cover this theme too.  i guess that's his shtick.  his theology is quite infantile.

neal and Flower kings are touring together with mike portnoy this spring.  looks like a transatlantic encore.
]]> Mon, 21 Jan 2013 16:26:42 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704927#4704927 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : ^ Thats why I put "related"... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704546#4704546 Author: AEProgman
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 21 2013 at 07:51

^ Thats why I put "related" in my reference to those other bands as TFK and Roine's lyrics are typically positive and upbeat, but no I would not classify them as a Christian band either and hope that I did not mislead anyone.  They are close and I think get thrown in the mix due to Roine's relationship with Neal.
 
I don't think I have ever seen a more hard working muscian than Roine, so many double albums with TFK, solo, Transaltlantic, etc...
 
I also forgot to mention to AlanB one of my favorite composers, Kerry Livgren of Kansas fame, which you most likely know, but his last/latest band Proto-Kaw is another that you could put in that category. 
]]> Mon, 21 Jan 2013 07:51:15 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704546#4704546 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : flower kings are not a christian... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704214#4704214 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 20 2013 at 19:34

flower kings are not a christian band.  the song flower king is from roine stolt's early 90s solo album by the same name.  the players on that album became the flower kings and put out Back in the World of Adventures as their first album  roine stolt is a mad genius and has put out so much stuff and guested on so much stuff it's ridiculous.  they are all well worth exploring.]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2013 19:34:55 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704214#4704214 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by AEProgmanOthe... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704029#4704029 Author: AlanB
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 20 2013 at 13:58

Originally posted by AEProgman

Othe bands you might  enjoy Glass Harp
 
I actually have a couple of Phil Keaggy albums plus one by Glass Harp (which I remember having to buy as an import). They're on vinyl so not really played anymore - I've had them since the late 70s. There is a bit of Glass Harp on Youtube but sadly the sound quality isn't great.
 
Looking forward to hearing the Flower Kings. I'm not too familiar with their stuff though I've heard a few songs on Youtube. The song called "The Flower King" sounds pretty good, though I think it was written before the band was formed.
]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:58:36 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704029#4704029 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by AlanBHi Newly... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704017#4704017 Author: AEProgman
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 20 2013 at 13:37

Originally posted by AlanB

Hi

Newly registered forum member here! I've just spent ages reading through this thread and would like to add my name to the list of people who love Neal Morse and his music. I've been a fan for about 3 or 4 years, since someone on another forum introduced me to Transatlantic. I'm a Christian myself so when I heard that Neal was a Christian I decided to investigate his solo stuff and I was well impressed. I now have most of his solo albums from One onwards (only missing Lifeline, which I'm not too bothered about since it didn't get good reviews and I have the live So Many Roads album which includes several tracks off Lifeline). I intend to get Testimony 1 eventually to complete my collection. My favourite Neal solo albums in order are
 
?
Momemtum
Sola Scriptura
T2
One
 
My favourite Neal epics (I don't count ? as an epic - it's an album Smile ) are
 
All Of The Above
Seeds of Gold
The Door
World Without End
 
As for Neal's last 2 releases, Flying Colors and Momemtum, I love them both. I'm surprised the Flying Colors album hasn't been mentioned much on this thread. Maybe it's because it's a collaboration, but I suspect Neal did a lot of the writing on it. On Momentum I am going to differ from some previous comments and say that I think Freak is a great song. The weakest song IMO is Smoke and Mirrors, and I think World Witout End could have been 5 minutes shorter.
 
Finally, I am very excited that I'm going to see Neal plus The Flower Kings in March! I live in the UK and Neal doesn't play here very often so I'm glad that I can get to the gig in Wolverhampton. I did see him with Transatlantic on the Whirlwind Tour and what a night that was.
 
Also have the Sola Scriptura DVD and Neal's book - and I can recommend both.
Welcome AlanB!  As Zumacraig mentioned, I too am jealous of you seeing Neal and TFK together.
 
I started with Neal's first solo prog effort, Testimony I and loved it.   Later I would like some of his other works better, such as One and ? but have all of them.
 
I have Spocks Beard "V" and is very good, my fav by them.
 
Other Christian related bands you might enjoy are Glass Hammer, Ajalon (features Randy George of Neal's band), Salem Hill, Akacia, Glass Harp (features an amazing guitarist Phil Keaggy who played on Neal's One LP) and as mentioned Flower Kings.  There are others as well but these are the few that popped to mind while responding.  Neal of course is on top with TFK and Glass Hammer close behind IMHO.
]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2013 13:37:55 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4704017#4704017 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Originally posted by AlanBHi... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703965#4703965 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 20 2013 at 12:06

Originally posted by AlanB

Hi Zumacraig
 
  I have Snow and consider it OK but I prefer Neal's solo and Transatlantic stuff. I've heard good reports about V and I'll probably get that sometime but I haven't really heard much of the SB stuff.

alan,

come over to the flower kings thread.  we talk about all things Neal there and anything remotely related.  it's kind of a forum within a forum.

if you haven't heard much of SB, well, you're in for a treat.  there's even some not so veiled christian lyrics there too. 
i just posted a note from roine over on that thread giving some more info about the impending tour.  should be amazing with the transatlantic encore.  my hunch is that pete from marillion will show up for a few shows making it a complete TA reunion...they're writing and recording this year too.  so it's a good time to be had!
]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2013 12:06:50 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703965#4703965 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Hi Zumacraig I have Snow and... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703722#4703722 Author: AlanB
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 20 2013 at 02:09

Hi Zumacraig
 
  I have Snow and consider it OK but I prefer Neal's solo and Transatlantic stuff. I've heard good reports about V and I'll probably get that sometime but I haven't really heard much of the SB stuff.
]]> Sun, 20 Jan 2013 02:09:02 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703722#4703722 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : well i'm jealous as hell... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703458#4703458 Author: zumacraig
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 19 2013 at 19:03

well i'm jealous as hell you're seeing neal and TFK.  that would be so great! 

i also like seeds of gold, but i'm partial to bridge across forever.  i recently picked up the first transatlantic and last and cannot get into them.  a little neal does a lot for me.  i guess i'm a bit burned out.  as far as flying colors goes, it had it's moments, but i just didn't like the whole thing.  they are writing for a new album to released this year, so there's that.

do you have any of neal's spocks beard stuff?  if not, the first 3 albums and the 5th are basically thirdwave prog masterpieces.

peace
]]> Sat, 19 Jan 2013 19:03:42 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703458#4703458 The New Neal Morse Appreciation Thread : Hi Newly registered forum member... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=76977&PID=4703187#4703187 Author: AlanB
Subject: 76977
Posted: January 19 2013 at 12:05

Hi

Newly registered forum member here! I've just spent ages reading through this thread and would like to add my name to the list of people who love Neal Morse and his music. I've been a fan for about 3 or 4 years, since someone on another forum introduced me to Transatlantic. I'm a Christian myself so when I heard that Neal was a Christian I decided to investigate his solo stuff and I was well impressed. I now have most of his solo albums from One onwards (only missing Lifeline, which I'm not too bothered about since it didn't get good reviews and I have the live So Many Roads album which includes several tracks off Lifeline). I intend to get Testimony 1 eventually to complete my collection. My favourite Neal solo albums in order are
 
?
Momemtum
Sola Scriptura
T2
One
 
My favourite Neal epics (I don't count ? as an epic - it's an album Smile ) are
 
All Of The Above
Seeds of Gold
The Door
World Without End
 
As for Neal's last 2 releases, Flying Colors and Momemtum, I love them both. I'm surprised the Flying Colors album hasn't been mentioned much on this thread. Maybe it's because it's a collaboration, but I suspect Neal did a lot of the writing on it. On Momentum I am going to differ from some previous comments and say that I think Freak is a great song. The weakest song IMO is Smoke and Mirrors, and I think World Witout End could have been 5 minutes shorter.
 
Finally, I am very excited that I'm going to see Neal plus The Flower Kings in March! I live in the UK and Neal doesn't play here very often so I'm glad that I can get to the gig in Wolverhampton. I did see him with Transatlantic on the Whirlwind Tour and what a night that was.
 
Also have the Sola Scriptura DVD and Neal's book - and I can recommend both.
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Posted: November 29 2012 at 07:34

Originally posted by Aussie-Byrd-Brother

Ah yes, I was very curious about his book! Thanks for the recommendation!

Just at work today I was wearing my Neal Morse Testimoney 2 t-shirt - Me spreading the `word of Morse', I suppose, although no-one really has much of an idea who he is down here!

I freaked out yesterday when reading the CD booklet for `Momentum' and Neal says in the back that he became inspired watching the Pastor of the Hillsong Church in Ausralia, and I was like "WHAT?! Where did he see that?! Was Neal actually IN Australia?! Does he tour here, and the information has somehow eluded me?!" etc etc

I would be seriously kicking myself if he somehow snuck into my own backyard and I totally missed it!


Big smile I was thinking exactly the same thing when I read it!
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