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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :  Originally posted by MelomaniacIn...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=41908" rel="nofollow">progbethyname</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 02 2013 at 12:32<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Melomaniac</strong></em><br /><br />In the 70's Rush influenced a sh!tload of musicians, and still do to this day. One of the most influential prog bands there is (not best, though they are my all-time favorite band, but most influential).</td></tr></table> <br /><br />Here here!! Their 70's prog inspired/influenced my favourite Prog metal juggernauts DREAM THEATER! Love RUSH. Oh I am Canadian to so its obvious. Lol ]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands : Behold.... what is perhaps the...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=46700" rel="nofollow">Lord_Adon</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 01 2013 at 17:18<br /><br />Behold.... what is perhaps the most influential prog band (personally) that I have ever heard.<div>It's just Magma</div><div><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73XLkf43-s" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a73XLkf43-s</a></div>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands : A likely story! No wonder he married...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36069" rel="nofollow">DiamondDog</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> May 01 2013 at 11:33<br /><br />A likely story! No wonder he married Toyah Wilcox]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :  Originally posted by dr wu23  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=41908" rel="nofollow">progbethyname</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 10:40<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by brainstormer</strong></em><br /><br />No one influenced King Crimson, I think that's what KC fans are saying.   <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></td></tr></table><br /><div> </div><div>Which KC fans are saying that...?  <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div><div> </div><div>Fripp claims the music just flowed through the orignal members from some mystical realm.</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Approve" title="Approve" /></div><div> </div></td></tr></table> <br /><br />Yeah. It's called psychedelics.  <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley32.gif" border="0" align="middle" />  Magic schrooooooooooooooms indeed!]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   Noooo, not bloody Steps again....</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13705" rel="nofollow">Dean</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 10:17<br /><br />Noooo, not bloody Steps again. <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley18.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Ouch" title="Ouch" />]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   Originally posted by humor4u1959Forgive...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=36069" rel="nofollow">DiamondDog</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 10:01<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by humor4u1959</strong></em><br /><br />Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking!  It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement.  This is history folks, not simply my opinion.  Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.  <br><br>Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it.  But, the fact is that THEY did it!  End of story.</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Actually, if any band had a claim to be first, and therefore most influential of all, &nbsp;it would be 1-2-3, but even then, as has been pointed out, it wasn't as simple as that. No band can claim to be the inventor of Prog, it was a wave of movement towards that focal point, many strands led there, culminating perhaps, in King Crimson, who, for one reason or another, touched a public nerve and opened the door to what followed.</div>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   Originally posted by Guldbamsen Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=11349" rel="nofollow">kenethlevine</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 08:36<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Guldbamsen</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StyLaZyn</strong></em><br /><br /><br><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by humor4u1959</strong></em><br /><br />Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking!  It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement.  This is history folks, not simply my opinion.  Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.  <br><br>Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it.  But, the fact is that THEY did it!  End of story.</td></tr></table>This must be a troll type post.</td></tr></table> <br><br>I wouldn't bet on that. I am taking a wild stab in the dark here, but my guess is that he is an old time fan who apparently has come to the conclusion, that music can be judged subjectively(as long as it's according to what he says).</td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>he is asking us to do the research, but he is saying it's a fact. &nbsp;Why not back it with some references?</div><div>I think Procol was indeed influential but no more so than the Beatles and the Moodys</div>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :  Originally posted by StyLaZyn  Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22735" rel="nofollow">Guldbamsen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 06:14<br /><br /> <table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by StyLaZyn</strong></em><br /><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by humor4u1959</strong></em><br /><br />Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking!  It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement.  This is history folks, not simply my opinion.  Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.  <br /><br />Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it.  But, the fact is that THEY did it!  End of story.</td></tr></table>This must be a troll type post.</td></tr></table> <br /><br />I wouldn't bet on that. I am taking a wild stab in the dark here, but my guess is that he is an old time fan who apparently has come to the conclusion, that music can be judged subjectively(as long as it's according to what he says).<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Guldbamsen - April 30 2013 at 06:17</span>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   Originally posted by humor4u1959Forgive...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=5673" rel="nofollow">StyLaZyn</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 06:08<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by humor4u1959</strong></em><br /><br />Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking!  It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement.  This is history folks, not simply my opinion.  Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.  <br><br>Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it.  But, the fact is that THEY did it!  End of story.</td></tr></table><br><br>This must be a troll type post.<br>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :    I&amp;#039;d argue that Black...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12002" rel="nofollow">Stool Man</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 03:45<br /><br />I'd argue that Black Sabbath are prog metal's fathers.<div>&nbsp;</div><div>I'll make a poll and we'll see...</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Stool Man - April 30 2013 at 03:47</span>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   Originally posted by MelomaniacIn...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43722" rel="nofollow">ProgMetaller2112</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 02:55<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Melomaniac</strong></em><br /><br />In the 70's Rush influenced a sh!tload of musicians, and still do to this day. One of the most influential prog bands there is (<b>not best,</b> though they are my all-time favorite band, but most influential).</td></tr></table><br><br>Check that, not the most complex or experimental but still influential. I'd argue they are Prog Metal's fathers <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br>]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :   This isn&amp;#039;t about who...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=12002" rel="nofollow">Stool Man</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 02:15<br /><br />This isn't about who was first, it's about who was most influential.&nbsp; So it's possible that someone like Marillion having success at a time when prog was 'fading' was inspirational to other new prog kids on the block.&nbsp; It didn't have to be old music by old players, it was possible for unknowns to start something new and still be prog.&nbsp; So new that we've named it as a subgenre of its own (not that they called it that at the time, but hey)&nbsp; Since there are seemingly many more prog bands in recent years than there were in the 70s, then maybe Marillion were more influential (or were influential on more new bands) than anyone of old.&nbsp; Other neo prog bands may have been earlier than them, but Marillion were appearing on TV and getting heard by teenagers for whom Pink Floyd were that band that sang the "Hey teacher, leave them kids alone" song.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13705" rel="nofollow">Dean</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 01:39<br /><br />Wrong<DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>...next!</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=46347" rel="nofollow">humor4u1959</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 30 2013 at 01:18<br /><br />Forgive me, but I don't know what you folks are smoking!  It's a fact that Procol Harum started the whole prog movement.  This is history folks, not simply my opinion.  Do some research and you'll come to the same conclusion.  <br /><br />Sure, had it not been Procol, some band would have done it.  But, the fact is that THEY did it!  End of story.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by humor4u1959 - April 30 2013 at 01:20</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=33133" rel="nofollow">Fox On The Rocks</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 03 2013 at 15:29<br /><br />Can, definitely.&nbsp;]]>
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   <title>Most influential Prog Bands :    Originally posted by Dean Originally...</title>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17971" rel="nofollow">brainstormer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 02 2013 at 22:10<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Dean</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by brainstormer</strong></em><br /><br />There seems to be two type of progressive rock. &nbsp;Progressive elements in the rock song structure (think Beatles, Moody Blues -- it has classical thrown in but the classical doesn't effect the song structure). &nbsp;<div>And Progressive Rock that is structurally different than rock music but has elements of rock. &nbsp;This is why I think</div><div>The Nice and the Electric Prunes were the first, with some Zappa. &nbsp;The Moody Blues tunes are almost all simpler</div><div>rock melodies, or MOR melodies from earlier 60's. &nbsp; They did sing a little operatically but so did Dusty</div><div>Springfield. &nbsp; When&nbsp;<span style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2">did </span>Dusty Springfield &nbsp; "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" come out? &nbsp;I think the true</div><div>understanding of prog history hangs on this question.</td></tr></table> </div><div><br></div><div>The element you are missing here is "Baroque Pop".</div><blockquote style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir="ltr"><div><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by wikipedia</strong></em><br /><br />The genre was intended to be less "wild" than rock music at the time, and a less commercial, more serious and "mature" offshoot of the genre. Baroque pop may be distinguished from progressive rock, which also uses classical instrumentation, by its generally simpler song structures closer to standard pop song writing, and also by its more mainstream lyrical content as opposed to the generally conceptual lyrics associated with later progressive rock</td></tr></table></div></blockquote><div>"I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself", along with many other Bacharach songs, was a Torch Song.</div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>Yes, Baroque Pop is excellent...its kind of in there with other sophisticated Rock-Pop from Europe</div><div>like YeYe, a little more in the prog direction. &nbsp;Can you name some Baroque Pop bands? &nbsp;I know</div><div>the Beatles have a few songs that can be considered that. &nbsp;I'm sure a google search will come</div><div>up with some.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>The Dusty Springfield comment I made was a bit tongue in cheek. &nbsp;I realize it's usually impossible</div><div>to tell when I'm doing that. &nbsp;I'll work on it.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by brainstormer - April 03 2013 at 00:01</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 02 2013 at 11:35<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><div>&nbsp;</div>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.) <div>&nbsp;</div><br><div>Peace.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <br><br>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <br></td></tr></table> <div>&nbsp;</div><div>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</div><div>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</div><div>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <br>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table> </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice.</div><div>What say you...?</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br></div></td></tr></table><br><br>I don't know but is Fripp really known for niceties towards his peers?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br><br>Anyway, I can only speak from my own experience, when I first heard Epitaph I thought, great, it sounds like the Moodies. Didn't know a thing about prog back then and never thought that Fripp would become canonized and considered infallable. <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I agree there are certainly similarities with mellotron being the main one imo...but to me they don't 'sound like' the Moodies.</div><div>I think Fripp has mellowed with age.</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18885" rel="nofollow">silverpot</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> April 01 2013 at 17:22<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><div>&nbsp;</div>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.) <div>&nbsp;</div><br><div>Peace.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <br><br>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <br></td></tr></table> <div>&nbsp;</div><div>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</div><div>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</div><div>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <br>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table> </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice.</div><div>What say you...?</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br></div></td></tr></table><br><br>I don't know but is Fripp really known for niceties towards his peers?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley1.gif" border="0" alt="Smile" title="Smile" /><br><br>Anyway, I can only speak from my own experience, when I first heard Epitaph I thought, great, it sounds like the Moodies. Didn't know a thing about prog back then and never thought that Fripp would become canonized and considered infallable. <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /><br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13705" rel="nofollow">Dean</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 29 2013 at 04:14<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by brainstormer</strong></em><br /><br />There seems to be two type of progressive rock. &nbsp;Progressive elements in the rock song structure (think Beatles, Moody Blues -- it has classical thrown in but the classical doesn't effect the song structure). &nbsp;<DIV>And Progressive Rock that is structurally different than rock music but has elements of rock. &nbsp;This is why I think</DIV><DIV>The Nice and the Electric Prunes were the first, with some Zappa. &nbsp;The Moody Blues tunes are almost all simpler</DIV><DIV>rock melodies, or MOR melodies from earlier 60's. &nbsp; They did sing a little operatically but so did Dusty</DIV><DIV>Springfield. &nbsp; When&nbsp;<SPAN style="LINE-HEIGHT: 1.2">did </SPAN>Dusty Springfield &nbsp; "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" come out? &nbsp;I think the true</DIV><DIV>understanding of prog history hangs on this question.</td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>The element you are missing here is "Baroque Pop".</DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px" dir=ltr><DIV><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by wikipedia</strong></em><br /><br />The genre was intended to be less "wild" than rock music at the time, and a less commercial, more serious and "mature" offshoot of the genre. Baroque pop may be distinguished from progressive rock, which also uses classical instrumentation, by its generally simpler song structures closer to standard pop song writing, and also by its more mainstream lyrical content as opposed to the generally conceptual lyrics associated with later progressive rock</td></tr></table></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><DIV>"I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself", along with many other Bacharach songs, was a Torch Song.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17971" rel="nofollow">brainstormer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 22:52<br /><br />There seems to be two type of progressive rock. &nbsp;Progressive elements in the rock song structure (think Beatles, Moody Blues -- it has classical thrown in but the classical doesn't effect the song structure). &nbsp;<div>And Progressive Rock that is structurally different than rock music but has elements of rock. &nbsp;This is why I think</div><div>The Nice and the Electric Prunes were the first, with some Zappa. &nbsp;The Moody Blues tunes are almost all simpler</div><div>rock melodies, or MOR melodies from earlier 60's. &nbsp; They did sing a little operatically but so did Dusty</div><div>Springfield. &nbsp; When&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.2;">did </span>Dusty Springfield &nbsp; "I Just Don't Know What To Do With Myself" come out? &nbsp;I think the true</div><div>understanding of prog history hangs on this question.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18778" rel="nofollow">axeman</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 21:19<br /><br /><font size="3">Listen to pre-Crimson<i>&nbsp;Yes </i>and <i>Genesis </i>and then listen to post-Crimson versions. That will tell you. Fripp is the <i>Daggone Pater Familias!!&nbsp;</i></font><div><font size="3"><i><br></i></font></div><div><font size="2">Although I have to admit that I don't mind Peter Banks-era Yes as much as <i>From Genesis to Revelation</i>.&nbsp;</font></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by axeman - March 28 2013 at 21:22</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 14:44<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Larree</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.) <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><DIV>Peace.</DIV></td></tr></table><BR><BR>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <BR><BR>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</DIV><DIV>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <BR>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BR></td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice.</DIV><DIV>What say you...?</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><BR></DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Robert Fripp was in Back to the Future 0.0.1 the prequel. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></DIV><DIV><BR></DIV><DIV>Seriously, Fripp reminds me of the scene from Back to the Future 2 when M.J. Fox played the electric guitar at the sock hop and left the kids (and the band onstage) with their jaws on the floor.</DIV></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" />&nbsp;&nbsp; Well.....Fripp was and is a unique musician. In that article in Prog mag a few issues back there was also a nice piece about Giles , Giles, and Fripp, and many musicians in the early days of '66-'68 thought they were very very good musicians and far beyond what the average punter in a band was able to play at that time. There's also the story ,which is probably true, that the Moodies were going to have&nbsp;KC tour with them until they realized that KC would blow them off the stage.</DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=8266" rel="nofollow">Melomaniac</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 14:43<br /><br />In the 70's Rush influenced a sh!tload of musicians, and still do to this day. One of the most influential prog bands there is (not best, though they are my all-time favorite band, but most influential).]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=45969" rel="nofollow">Larree</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 14:09<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><div>&nbsp;</div>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.) <div>&nbsp;</div><br><div>Peace.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <br><br>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <br></td></tr></table> <div>&nbsp;</div><div>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</div><div>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</div><div>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <br>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <br></td></tr></table> </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice.</div><div>What say you...?</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><br></div></td></tr></table><div><br></div><div>Robert Fripp was in Back to the Future 0.0.1 the prequel. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /></div><div><br></div><div>Seriously, Fripp reminds me of the scene from Back to the Future 2 when M.J. Fox played the electric guitar at the sock hop and left the kids (and the band onstage) with their jaws on the floor.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 13:52<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.) <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><BR><DIV>Peace.</DIV></td></tr></table><BR><BR>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <BR><BR>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <BR></td></tr></table> <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</DIV><DIV>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</DIV></td></tr></table><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <BR>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <BR>&nbsp; <BR></td></tr></table> </DIV><DIV>&nbsp;</DIV><DIV>Yes..and they quickly fired him because Clarke had no idea what KC was all about....so says the man himself, Fripp, who as far as I know has never said he was influenced by the Moodies. Maybe Ian is just being ...nice.</DIV><DIV>What say you...?</DIV><DIV><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /><BR></DIV>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=46273" rel="nofollow">Tubes</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 11:44<br /><br /><p>The Moody Blues, Yes, and Jethro Tull may very well be the most influential bands. 1) The Moody Blues were among the first to incorporate orchestral instrumentation in an innovative, progressive fashion into the rock vein. Their fourth album On the Threshold of a Dream ( a personal favorite ), was released in 1969 even before King Crimson's In the Court of the Crimson King. 2) Yes' sound I find to be particularly unique: A male lead singer with a soprano voice who blends his almost perfectly with the rough baritone of Peter Banks/Steve Howe, and the tenor of Chris Squire (who was a choir boy in his youth); in a related topic, there is also the matter of incredible simultaneous multiple-lyric/vocal polyphony such as Close to the Edge, And You and I, Wonderous Stories, I've Seen All Good People, etc; Virtuosity galore! Peter Banks was a great guitarist in his own right, and Steve Howe was voted by readers of Guitar Player magazine five years consecutively from 1977-81 as "Most Versatile Guitarist". Readers could no longer vote for him after this time because his popularity disqualified him; in recognition of his talents and work he was the first inductee into the "Guitar Player Hall of Fame", and to this day there are only two others; Chris Squire is one of the most dynamic and melodic bassists I have ever heard. Chris Squire is often described as a bassist writing counterpoints to the vocals and as a matter of fact was a source of much frustation to Bill Bruford because Mr. Squire did not necessarily consider himself to be part of the rhythm section. In certain Yes songs, such as Siberian Khatru, The Fish, Heart of the Sunrise, and On the Silent Wings of Freedom, Squire plays the bass in the capacity of a lead or solo&nbsp;instrument. His first solo album, Fish out of Water, has a number of tracks that feature this type of arrangement; Bill Bruford was extremely influential even in the early seventies: Phil Collins of Genesis has cited him as his favorite percussionist, and Neil Peart of Rush (considered by some to be the greatest rock drummer, thought not by me) has also acknowledged elements of Bruford's playing to have been inspiring to him; Rick Wakeman's keyboard equipment was a remarkable spectacle in the seventies -&nbsp;really unlike anyone else's. And let's not neglect to discuss his playing style, which is usually fast-paced and convoluted (and far superior to Keith Emerson's, in my opinion). Besides Yes, Rick Wakeman has also played for other very influential artists such as David Bowie and Lou Reed. 3) What band other than Jethro Tull has done the most to highlight the flute in a rock context? Maybe Focus, or Genesis. And let's not just discuss unusual instrumentation for a rock group such as soprano saxophone, flute, and mandolin. Let's talk about the music. Jethro Tull released a monster of Progressive Rock symphonic poetry in Thick as a Brick, and then again in A Passion Play. How could their music be described? -Bluesy in albums like This Was and Benefit; jazzy in albums like A Passion Play, and Warchild; rocking and folky in albums like Aqualung and Thick as a Brick; metallic and medieval in albums like Songs from the Wood, Heavy Horses, and Stormwatch. Such diversity of output!</p>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=18885" rel="nofollow">silverpot</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 28 2013 at 10:55<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by dr wu23</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><div>&nbsp;</div>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.)<div>&nbsp;</div><br><div>Peace.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <br><br>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <br></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</div><div>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</div><div>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Well, KC originally enlisted the Moodies producer to help them out with In the Court...and Ian McDonald has explicitly said that they were inspired and influenced by them. It also becomes obvious, listening to the record. <br>I was a big MB fan at the time and instantly loved In the Court when it came out, just because it sounded like the Moodies. &nbsp; <br>&nbsp; <br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 27 2013 at 22:16<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by brainstormer</strong></em><br /><br />No one influenced King Crimson, I think that's what KC fans are saying. &nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Which KC fans are saying that...?&nbsp; <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Fripp claims the music just flowed through the orignal members from some mystical realm.</div><div><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley14.gif" height="17" width="17" border="0" alt="Approve" title="Approve" /></div><div>&nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=22735" rel="nofollow">Guldbamsen</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 27 2013 at 21:36<br /><br />Steve Miller Band. Nearly every early 70s symphonic act stole the mellotron sound and feel off of the track In My First Mind <img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley17.gif" border="0" align="middle" /> ]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17971" rel="nofollow">brainstormer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 27 2013 at 21:01<br /><br />No one influenced King Crimson, I think that's what KC fans are saying. &nbsp;&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 27 2013 at 20:02<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by silverpot</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by maani</strong></em><br /><br /><div>&nbsp;</div>&nbsp; Interestingly, Crimson seems to have "sprung full-grown from the head of Zeus," with little if any direct Beatle influence.)<div>&nbsp;</div><br><div>Peace.</div></td></tr></table><br><br>Crimson was heavily influenced by The Moody Blues, who in their turn were influenced by The Beatles. <br><br>Just saying.&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley2.gif" border="0" alt="Wink" title="Wink" /> <br></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>I seriously doubt that Crimson was strongly influenced by the Moodies per se........indeed they were in awe of Crimson from everything&nbsp;I have read and KC's music was ahead of what the Moodies were doing in many ways.</div><div>Having said that I think all of the more interesting bands then were being influencing by &nbsp;each other and Fripp has mentioned the Beatles as an influence himself.&nbsp;</div><div>BTW there was an interesting piece by Fripp about KC in Prog magazine a few months back.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=33694" rel="nofollow">Krodis</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 27 2013 at 12:44<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Larree</strong></em><br /><br />I don't know if anyone has mentioned this album. &nbsp;And if not, perhaps it is because the music is not prog enough in the true sense of what prog is to most prog music fans. &nbsp;But Tommy by the Who, being the double album concept piece it was, was quite progressive at the time and perhaps an excellent and influential bridge to classic prog. &nbsp;Perhaps even more so than Sgt. Peppers.</td></tr></table><br>While I certainly don't doubt Tommy's influence, the difference between Sgt. Pepper's and Tommy in terms of prog influence, is Sgt. Pepper's came out in 1967.&nbsp; Tommy came out in May 1969.&nbsp; While it may only be two years difference, it also dates Tommy AFTER, say, King Crimson's live debut. (Plus a handful of proto-prog albums that came out in the two intervening years)<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=17971" rel="nofollow">brainstormer</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2013 at 19:57<br /><br />My thoughts: some of the suggestions made in this thread are &nbsp;wrong &nbsp;=)<div>If you listen to the Nice, and the Electric Prunes, it's hard to say what they were doing</div><div>wasn't influential. &nbsp;And, the E.P. didn't get voted into this site, but Axelrod did, and they lent</div><div>their sound to his work, and his work never sounded like the Mass in F Minor</div><div>they did in 1968, which is a year before in the Court of the Crimson King. &nbsp;I just</div><div>did an interview with James Lowe, the singer of the E.P. who incidentally was</div><div>very influential in the early Todd Rundgren albums and had a big career in&nbsp;</div><div>music and TV after the&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.2;">Electric Prunes. &nbsp; The&nbsp;</span>E.P&nbsp;<span style="line-height: 1.2;">were using Zither in recordings</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">and noise....you have to listen to their material to see their influence. &nbsp;The other</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">psychedelic bands that we think of important, like the Strawberry Alarm clock,</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">if you listen to them, &nbsp;sound like a pop band. &nbsp;Also, 13th Floor Elevators I don't</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">think were innovating much of that sound or structural change. &nbsp;Even if it wasn't</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">the Electric Prunes that did all of some album or another, it was still some</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">members and somewhat of a spirit they created. &nbsp;&nbsp;</span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">The&nbsp;</span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">Electric Prunes&nbsp;</span><span style="line-height: 1.2;">&nbsp;were&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">doing gigs with Soft Machine in the early days, which shows their prog leanings.</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">The fact that they did the Mass in F Minor concept album in 1968 is important</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">in prog. &nbsp;ELP didn't write Pictures but that didn't make a difference in calling it</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;">a prog album.&nbsp;</span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;"><br></span></div><div><span style="line-height: 1.2;"><br></span></div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by brainstormer - March 24 2013 at 20:21</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=45969" rel="nofollow">Larree</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2013 at 19:41<br /><br />I don't know if anyone has mentioned this album. &nbsp;And if not, perhaps it is because the music is not prog enough in the true sense of what prog is to most prog music fans. &nbsp;But Tommy by the Who, being the double album concept piece it was, was quite progressive at the time and perhaps an excellent and influential bridge to classic prog. &nbsp;Perhaps even more so than Sgt. Peppers.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=13705" rel="nofollow">Dean</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2013 at 19:17<br /><br />no they weren't]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=33746" rel="nofollow">giselle</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2013 at 18:11<br /><br />and as has been said many times, 1-2-3 was the bridge between The Beatles and Prog.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=15602" rel="nofollow">fusionfreak</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 24 2013 at 17:58<br /><br />For me influential bands are Pink Floyd Yes Genesis King Crimson Magma Gong Amon Duul 2 Mahavishnu Orchestra SBB Soft Machine Ash Ra Tempel Can Tangerine Dream Hawkwind Jethro Tull Mars Volta Dream Theater Anekdoten Heldon Rush.....and it's true that the Beatles paved the way for prog with concept albums such as Sergent Peper's new hearts club band]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=30273" rel="nofollow">dr wu23</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 18 2013 at 23:03<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by The Doctor</strong></em><br /><br />Genesis pretty much single-handedly inspired the neo-prog movement of the late 70's/early 80's.&nbsp; <div>&nbsp;</div><div>David Bowie has certainly been very influential, but most of his influence has extended outside the boundaries of prog, although there has been some influence on prog bands too.&nbsp; One that comes to mind is Phideaux, some of their music is at times reminiscent of Bowie.&nbsp; Especially in the vocal delivery.&nbsp; </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>The Beatles are obviously the most influential band ever.&nbsp; Without them, there would have been no Yes, no King Crimson, no Floyd, no Genesis, etc.</div></td></tr></table><div>&nbsp;</div><div>Good post....and that about sums it up for me......but I would say though that imho Porcupine Tree and Wilson have&nbsp;significantly &nbsp;influenced bands from 2000 on.</div><span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by dr wu23 - March 18 2013 at 23:04</span>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=3046" rel="nofollow">The Doctor</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 18 2013 at 12:11<br /><br />Genesis pretty much single-handedly inspired the neo-prog movement of the late 70's/early 80's.&nbsp; <div>&nbsp;</div><div>David Bowie has certainly been very influential, but most of his influence has extended outside the boundaries of prog, although there has been some influence on prog bands too.&nbsp; One that comes to mind is Phideaux, some of their music is at times reminiscent of Bowie.&nbsp; Especially in the vocal delivery.&nbsp; </div><div>&nbsp;</div><div>The Beatles are obviously the most influential band ever.&nbsp; Without them, there would have been no Yes, no King Crimson, no Floyd, no Genesis, etc.</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=46044" rel="nofollow">Mirkwood</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> March 18 2013 at 12:05<br /><br />I certainly don't disagree about Genesis and those other bands being influential in the 1970s, but I think David Bowie much more.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43722" rel="nofollow">ProgMetaller2112</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 15 2013 at 01:57<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><br>I'm an individual and I don't care what other people say either, I'm not your average metal music listener, I've been listening to Prog more than Metal, that's why I've got that on my user name<br></td></tr></table><br><br>If you honestly don't care what other people say, why does KC fanboism bug you so much?&nbsp;&nbsp; Who gave you the divine right to launch a crusade to drive KC fans away from PA?&nbsp; Because that's what you're doing.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is no longer just about saying KC is overrated, anytime people say something you don't like, your response is "yeah, and Robert Fripp is blah blah blah"?&nbsp; Hey, what did he do to you man,&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> what's your vendetta?<br></td></tr></table><br><br>What I meant to say was that I don't care about what other people say about me<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43722" rel="nofollow">ProgMetaller2112</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 15 2013 at 01:56<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><br>I'm an individual and I don't care what other people say either, I'm not your average metal music listener, I've been listening to Prog more than Metal, that's why I've got that on my user name<br></td></tr></table><br><br>If you honestly don't care what other people say, why does KC fanboism bug you so much?&nbsp;&nbsp; Who gave you the divine right to launch a crusade to drive KC fans away from PA?&nbsp; Because that's what you're doing.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is no longer just about saying KC is overrated, anytime people say something you don't like, your response is "yeah, and Robert Fripp is blah blah blah"?&nbsp; Hey, what did he do to you man,&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> what's your vendetta?<br></td></tr></table><br><br>Robert is decent at best with some great moments in my opinion<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10080" rel="nofollow">rogerthat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 12 2013 at 03:56<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><br>I'm an individual and I don't care what other people say either, I'm not your average metal music listener, I've been listening to Prog more than Metal, that's why I've got that on my user name<br></td></tr></table><br><br>If you honestly don't care what other people say, why does KC fanboism bug you so much?&nbsp;&nbsp; Who gave you the divine right to launch a crusade to drive KC fans away from PA?&nbsp; Because that's what you're doing.&nbsp;&nbsp; This is no longer just about saying KC is overrated, anytime people say something you don't like, your response is "yeah, and Robert Fripp is blah blah blah"?&nbsp; Hey, what did he do to you man,&nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley36.gif" border="0" alt="LOL" title="LOL" /> what's your vendetta?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=40840" rel="nofollow">The Mystical</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 20:44<br /><br /><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">60s: Iron Butterfly, Beatles</span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">70s: Pink Floyd, Yes, Genesis, Gong, King Crimson</span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">80s: Marillion, Asia, Rush</span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">90s: Opeth, Dream Theatre, Flower Kings, Spock's Beard</span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;">10s: Glass Hammer, maudlin Of The Well, Sigor Ros</span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"><br></span></font></div><div style="text-align: left;"><font ="Apple-style-span" size="3"><span ="Apple-style-span" style="line-height: normal; -webkit-border-horiz&#111;ntal-spacing: 1px; -webkit-border-vertical-spacing: 1px;"><br></span></font></div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43722" rel="nofollow">ProgMetaller2112</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 20:28<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Sumdeus</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br />It's not for my own sake it's for your own sake<br></td></tr></table><br><br>thank god we have you to tell us what to listen to. Otherwise we might be listening ot that "john cage wannabe drivel" and maybe even <i>enjoy it</i>. Who knows what kind of madness would ensue then?<br></td></tr></table><br><br><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" /><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" /><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" /><br><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" /><img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley3.gif" border="0" alt="Shocked" title="Shocked" />]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43070" rel="nofollow">Sumdeus</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 20:25<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br />It's not for my own sake it's for your own sake<br></td></tr></table><br><br>thank god we have you to tell us what to listen to. Otherwise we might be listening ot that "john cage wannabe drivel" and maybe even <i>enjoy it</i>. Who knows what kind of madness would ensue then?<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=34831" rel="nofollow">Dayvenkirq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 20:22<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br />... I don't care what other people say ...</td></tr></table>Muchos gracias. That's all we needed to hear.]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=43722" rel="nofollow">ProgMetaller2112</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 20:05<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Dayvenkirq</strong></em><br /><br />^What does he want us to do, give up on the band?</td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>Yes because ProgMetaller said it is not good music. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>did I say that??? No all I said was think twice about what your listening to<br></td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>And what exactly entitles you to say that? &nbsp; Who the bloody hell are you to do so? &nbsp;You have no right to interfere or pronounce judgment on anybody's taste. &nbsp;I don't think this is the first time I have told you that. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>It's not for my own sake it's for your own sake<br></td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>You shall not presume what is good for my own sake and what is not. &nbsp; You can recommend music to others but cannot tell them to think whether what they are listening to is good. &nbsp;For the last time, this is not a metal forum. &nbsp;This kind of "mate, I'll tell you what's good music" way of speaking will come off as very rude here because people on this forum are individuals and their individuality is respected. &nbsp;It is not a kinship or community like Metalheads Inc. &nbsp;With that, I have to go. &nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>I'm an individual and I don't care what other people say either, I'm not your average metal music listener, I've been listening to Prog more than Metal, that's why I've got that on my user name<br>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=10080" rel="nofollow">rogerthat</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 19:59<br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by ProgMetaller2112</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by rogerthat</strong></em><br /><br /><table width="99%"><tr><td class="BBquote"><strong><em>Originally posted by Dayvenkirq</strong></em><br /><br />^What does he want us to do, give up on the band?</td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>Yes because ProgMetaller said it is not good music. &nbsp;<img src="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/smileys/smiley4.gif" border="0" alt="Big smile" title="Big smile" />&nbsp;&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>did I say that??? No all I said was think twice about what your listening to<br></td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>And what exactly entitles you to say that? &nbsp; Who the bloody hell are you to do so? &nbsp;You have no right to interfere or pronounce judgment on anybody's taste. &nbsp;I don't think this is the first time I have told you that. &nbsp;&nbsp;</div></td></tr></table><br><br>It's not for my own sake it's for your own sake<br></td></tr></table><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div id="_dyhb23rg4374"></div><div><br></div><div>You shall not presume what is good for my own sake and what is not. &nbsp; You can recommend music to others but cannot tell them to think whether what they are listening to is good. &nbsp;For the last time, this is not a metal forum. &nbsp;This kind of "mate, I'll tell you what's good music" way of speaking will come off as very rude here because people on this forum are individuals and their individuality is respected. &nbsp;It is not a kinship or community like Metalheads Inc. &nbsp;With that, I have to go. &nbsp;</div>]]>
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    <![CDATA[<strong>Author:</strong> <a href="http://www.progarchives.com/forum/member_profile.asp?PF=34831" rel="nofollow">Dayvenkirq</a><br /><strong>Subject:</strong> 85974<br /><strong>Posted:</strong> January 10 2013 at 19:58<br /><br />OK, break time! If you wish to, you may reconvene in 24 hrs.<span style="font-size:10px"><br /><br />Edited by Dayvenkirq - January 10 2013 at 19:58</span>]]>
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