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Subject: 90920
Posted: January 09 2013 at 14:25

Originally posted by Kati

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

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]]> Wed, 09 Jan 2013 14:25:35 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4695639#4695639 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by Gandalff Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4695358#4695358 Author: Kati
Subject: 90920
Posted: January 09 2013 at 05:59

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.
Gandalf, your perception of Epic is quite right in terms of meaning something historic, special, most memorable and written inc. poetry, however I believe other members above are right too, it depends on the context I suppose because EPIC is derived from the Latin word Epicus and Greek word Epikos which means speech, written, song/music. Epic is something remarkable, highlight/ happening, instrumentals too can take us back in time, become most memorable, sometimes even more so than lyrics.   
 

HugBig smile

]]> Wed, 09 Jan 2013 05:59:13 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4695358#4695358 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by richardh Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676991#4676991 Author: Gandalff
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 11 2012 at 01:43

Originally posted by richardh

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
If you really believe that Oldfield ever made some Epics, then believe. For others, let it be instrumental compositions.

Edited by Gandalff - December 11 2012 at 01:43]]> Tue, 11 Dec 2012 01:43:10 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676991#4676991 2012: The Best Epic? : Echolyn - Island http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676923#4676923 Author: bytor2112
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 10 2012 at 23:21

Echolyn - Island]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 23:21:57 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676923#4676923 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by Gandalff Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676621#4676621 Author: richardh
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 10 2012 at 14:30

Originally posted by Gandalff

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!
Good job that Mike Oldfield stopped wasting his time churning out those non epic works..
]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 14:30:16 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676621#4676621 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad Originally... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676527#4676527 Author: Gandalff
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 10 2012 at 11:03

Originally posted by Nogbad_The_Bad

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
Absolutely not! The word "Epic" in music is derived from the traditional genre of poetry created since antiquity. It has a storyline, story, destination, time and causality. Thus, a musical Epic has contain a lyrics to could tell any story... Which, as you can surely admit, Instrumental ever cannot!]]> Mon, 10 Dec 2012 11:03:33 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676527#4676527 2012: The Best Epic? : "Daddy F***ing Loves You"... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676190#4676190 Author: dtguitarfan
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 16:58

"Daddy F***ing Loves You" by Headspace.  After reading what it was about in an interview, it makes me tear up now.  But I loved it even before then.]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 16:58:24 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676190#4676190 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by GandalffSome... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676177#4676177 Author: Nogbad_The_Bad
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 16:39

Originally posted by Gandalff

Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard.
An instrumental can't be epic?
]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 16:39:43 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4676177#4676177 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by SlaughternaliaBTBAM... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675965#4675965 Author: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:01

Originally posted by Slaughternalia

BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy

Amen. Handshake
]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:01:23 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675965#4675965 2012: The Best Epic? : BTBAM! The new album is fantastic. ... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675964#4675964 Author: Fox On The Rocks
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:01

BTBAM! The new album is fantastic. ]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:01:00 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675964#4675964 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by BrufordFreakI... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675963#4675963 Author: Gandalff
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 11:00

Originally posted by BrufordFreak

I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 


Please read properly my criteria. Some of your suggestions are instrumentals, not Epics - e.g. Kotebel or Anglagard. Some of them didn't get sufficient average rating value (4.00).
 
I didn't want  to exclude purposely any track. But if I would haven't set any criteria, I would have to create a multi-round voting. And I just didn't want to do it.
]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 11:00:55 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675963#4675963 2012: The Best Epic? : BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675958#4675958 Author: Slaughternalia
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 10:49

BTBAM for sure. I'm a bit of a fanboy]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 10:49:07 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675958#4675958 2012: The Best Epic? : Voted for Island from this selection My... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675861#4675861 Author: snowsnow
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 04:08

Voted for Island from this selection
 
My top epics this year (with no rules):
 
Marillion - Gaza
Echolyn - Island
Presto Ballet - Relic of the modern world (back on form for me)
Landmarq - Calm before the storm
 
 
 
]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 04:08:36 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675861#4675861 2012: The Best Epic? : ^ I think the definition of 'epic'... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675850#4675850 Author: richardh
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 09 2012 at 03:17

^ I think the definition of 'epic' would be 15 minutes plus in my book although admittedly the OP offered no guidelines on this.

]]> Sun, 09 Dec 2012 03:17:41 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675850#4675850 2012: The Best Epic? : I have to say that I am quite... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675729#4675729 Author: BrufordFreak
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 08 2012 at 20:08

I have to say that I am quite surprised at the glaringly missing "epics" from this list:  I AND THOU's "And I Awaken," KOTEBEL's "Concerto for Piano and Electric Ensemble," THE TEA CLUB's "Firebears,"  MYSTERY's "Another Day," BATTLESTATION's "Prologue: Nature's Morte/You're Not Welcome Here," and NO ANGLAGARD, ASTRA, DIAGONAL or THINKING PLAGUE! These are from 2012! They are incredible! 


]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 20:08:43 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675729#4675729 2012: The Best Epic? : othersThe Crush of Night . by... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675308#4675308 Author: martinprog77
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 08 2012 at 05:59

others 
 The Crush of Night . by IZZ
 Turn Away  by IOEarth
 Utopia by Utopia
 
]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 05:59:29 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675308#4675308 2012: The Best Epic? : "World Without End"... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675307#4675307 Author: martinprog77
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 08 2012 at 05:48

"World Without End" by Neal Morse]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 05:48:05 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675307#4675307 2012: The Best Epic? : Can - Graublau or anything from... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675296#4675296 Author: SaltyJon
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 08 2012 at 04:39

Can - Graublau or anything from Electric Orange's new album XX for me. ]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 04:39:56 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675296#4675296 2012: The Best Epic? : Presto Ballet - Relic Of The ModernWorld... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675286#4675286 Author: richardh
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 08 2012 at 03:05

Presto Ballet - Relic Of The Modern World (19.12)
]]> Sat, 08 Dec 2012 03:05:46 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675286#4675286 2012: The Best Epic? : MagmaorThinking Plague - A Virtuous... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675182#4675182 Author: Nogbad_The_Bad
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:42

Magma

or
Thinking Plague - A Virtuous Man




Edited by Nogbad_The_Bad - December 07 2012 at 21:51]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:42:49 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675182#4675182 2012: The Best Epic? : But if I could vote, I'd... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675178#4675178 Author: Floyd Steely
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:24

But if I could vote, I'd vote for Magma.]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:24:05 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675178#4675178 2012: The Best Epic? : Hi,I'm not allowed to... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675177#4675177 Author: Floyd Steely
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 21:23

Hi,
 
I'm not allowed to vote in these polls for some reason, but I sure wish "Note" by Beardfish were included.
]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 21:23:01 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675177#4675177 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by WanorakGaza... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675128#4675128 Author: Progmind
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 20:15

Originally posted by Wanorak

Gaza by Marillion.


This

]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 20:15:34 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675128#4675128 2012: The Best Epic? : Gaza by Marillion. http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675098#4675098 Author: Wanorak
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 19:36

Gaza by Marillion. ]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 19:36:05 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4675098#4675098 2012: The Best Epic? : Magma http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674962#4674962 Author: Man With Hat
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 15:55

Magma]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 15:55:32 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674962#4674962 2012: The Best Epic? : I only know one of those listed,... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674933#4674933 Author: Logan
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 14:41

I only know one of those listed, and I can't think of any others, but I do love the "Felicité Thösz" suite, so I gave it a  vote.  Magma commonly beats the competition for me.
]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 14:41:44 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674933#4674933 2012: The Best Epic? : Originally posted by GallifreyAnathema... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674890#4674890 Author: Gandalff
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 13:42

Originally posted by Gallifrey

Anathema - Untouchable
Mystery - Pride
Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion
Mendel - Absolution
Echolyn - Speaking in Lampblack
Circus Maximus - Last Goodbye
Lithium Dawn - The Price
Circus Maximus - Architect Of Fortune
Flying Colors - Infinite Fire
Silhouette - Breathe
Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars
Headspace - Daddy f**king Loves You.


From this list, Share the World With Me, easily the best from Sceneries.
 As for your suggestions, many of them don't meet my criteria. Nevertheless, thank you!
 
My favourite Epic of the year 2012 is Motorpsycho & Ståle Storløkken's "Through the Veil". Really timeless music!Thumbs Up


Edited by Gandalff - December 07 2012 at 13:44]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 13:42:42 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674890#4674890 2012: The Best Epic? : Anathema - UntouchableMystery... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674800#4674800 Author: Gallifrey
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 09:43

Anathema - Untouchable
Mystery - Pride
Storm Corrosion - Storm Corrosion
Mendel - Absolution
Echolyn - Speaking in Lampblack
Circus Maximus - Last Goodbye
Lithium Dawn - The Price
Circus Maximus - Architect Of Fortune
Flying Colors - Infinite Fire
Silhouette - Breathe
Ne Obliviscaris - Forget Not
Wintersun - Sons of Winter And Stars
Headspace - Daddy f**king Loves You.


From this list, Share the World With Me, easily the best from Sceneries.


Edited by Gallifrey - December 07 2012 at 09:44]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 09:43:57 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674800#4674800 2012: The Best Epic? : Silent Flight Parliament. I cant... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674764#4674764 Author: sleeper
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:47

Silent Flight Parliament. I cant between BTBAM actually recorded a song better than the awsome White Walls.]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:47:31 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674764#4674764 2012: The Best Epic? : Magma http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674753#4674753 Author: akaBona
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 07:31

Magma]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 07:31:04 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674753#4674753 2012: The Best Epic? : "Guardian Angel" by... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674732#4674732 Author: King Manuel
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 05:36

"Guardian Angel" by Galahad, although the chorus is a bit cheesy, I can not get it out of my head.]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 05:36:49 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674732#4674732 2012: The Best Epic? : Island.Runner-up outside... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674706#4674706 Author: someone_else
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 03:18

Island.
 
Runner-up outside this list: Lover's End Part III: Skellefteå Serenade - Moon Safari
 


Edited by someone_else - December 07 2012 at 03:19]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:18:58 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674706#4674706 2012: The Best Epic? : Criteria to inclusion: Corresponding... http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674701#4674701 Author: Gandalff
Subject: 90920
Posted: December 07 2012 at 03:02

Criteria to inclusion:
  • Corresponding album with minimum number of ratings: 50
  • Minimum average rating value: 4.00
  • If some album has more than 1 Epic, I've picked the longest one

I believe, if Big Big Train have been stretched just slightly some of their songs on the album of the year, this song would surely win.Wink



Edited by Gandalff - December 07 2012 at 13:43]]> Fri, 07 Dec 2012 03:02:30 +0000 http://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=90920&PID=4674701#4674701