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General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 11:09:04 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 11:09

^ Yep, agreed. De Futura O:

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 11:08:18 +0000

Author: Ivan_Melgar_M
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 11:08

THE REST IS SILENCE

General discussions : 2012 MLB Season

Wed, 16 May 2012 11:01:38 +0000

Author: TheProgtologist
Subject: 2012 MLB Season
Posted: May 16 2012 at 11:01

I am hoping the O's finally found their ace.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:59:28 +0000

Author: Zombywoof
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:59

Originally posted by The Bearded Bard

First listen.

You're first Magma? Don't let it shape your opinion on the band, its definitely not their best work. Side 2 makes up for it, though!

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:51:45 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:51

^ oh wow yes it does!!

The first time listening to Soft Machine's "Third", I was in bed, and during "Moon In June" I was dreaming of all of these flowered up Samurais swinging their swords. It was trippy as hell.

Music definitely affects dreams- it's actually incredibly intriguing, I need to do it more.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:49:59 +0000

Author: TheGazzardian
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:49

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:49:21 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:49

I wonder if falling asleep to music has any impact at all?

I doubt it, but it would be interesting (at least for me) to sleep to different musics.

Originally posted by refugee

Once in my youth, I dreamed a long detective story. The plot was probably absurd but it all made sense in my dream. The most peculiar part, however, was that the hero was the brilliant inspector Franz Beckenbauer. And he looked like an elephant.

Guess it's not as weird then
Yeah I goofed and missed most of the details, when I woke up I recalled it quite extensively. My boss was dressed in black though, with a trench coat and hat, real spy type thing.

See? My dreams are lame, no elephants

Edited by JJLehto - Today at 10:50

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:49:21 +0000

Author: refugee
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:49

Once in my youth, I dreamed a long detective story. The plot was probably absurd but it all made sense in my dream. The most peculiar part, however, was that the hero was the brilliant inspector Franz Beckenbauer. And he looked like an elephant.

General Music Discussions : Worst and Best show?

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:43:33 +0000

Author: rogerthat
Subject: Worst and Best show?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:43

Worst was a local metal gig where both the sound as well as the bands were terrible. The only gig I had to walk out of in the middle.

Best so far was easily Remember Shakti's performance earlier this year at an open air ampitheatre. The atmosphere was marvellous, the interaction with the crowd amazing and of course the musicianship was heavenly.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:42:42 +0000

Author: The Bearded Bard
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:42

First listen.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:39:03 +0000

Author: smartpatrol
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:39

Originally posted by JJLehto

Every single thread on this site always falls apart into stupid political banter, please stop saying that so we can prolong this one as long as possible ok?

I was being funny. Everytime I see you I think "It's the Ron Pual signature guy!"

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:38:50 +0000

Author: The Truth
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:38

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:34:12 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:34

Yes, please...

Dreams and erotic bicycle stories

Edited by JJLehto - Today at 10:34

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:32:55 +0000

Author: rushfan4
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:32

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:30:36 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:30

"The fight to preserve the topical integrity of this thread." Is something Mitt Romney would say.

But yeah cereally, let's keep it about dreams and sh*t.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:26:49 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:26

Every single thread on this site always falls apart into stupid political banter, please stop saying that so we can prolong this one as long as possible ok?

General discussions : Prog Chefs Unite!!!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:24:41 +0000

Author: Jim Garten
Subject: Prog Chefs Unite!!!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:24

I'd forgotten that one! One of the front prongs came off when I was cutting some meat & it was just as well I noticed it as I was dishing up

No - the one I meant was this little monstrosity:

Very sharp, but guaranteed to stick as you were cutting, with predictable & messy results.

Prog News, Press Releases : Riversea - 'Out Of An Ancient World' album soon.

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:23:16 +0000

Author: yam yam
Subject: Riversea - 'Out Of An Ancient World' album soon.
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:23

First ever live airing of the Riversea album 'Out Of An Ancient World' on Aiiradio.net: http://www.livestream.com/aiiradionet/video?clipId=pla_571fca9f-d02b-4c43-81ce-97addaacaa53. The artists invloved talk about the album and play the tracks on it. Sound levels are a bit low on this - you'll need to tweak the volume up, and the first minute and a half is just an advert, but otherwise well worth a listen. This link will only be available on line for a very short time, so tune in now!

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:22:31 +0000

Author: smartpatrol
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:22

Originally posted by JJLehto

Anywho, I did recall a dream from yesterday but it was lame and weird, and not in a fun way.

I got a new job at a spy company, (I guess) and the boss was giving me my first job. I had to get a picture and collect some info (I didn't write it down ASAP and forgot what ) on this guy. I was asking how and he just angrily said "I don't care how you do it, just do it!" then handed me a camera. I asked is the camera silent and he shook his head no.

All I can remember...wtf

Ron Paul: Secret Agent

General discussions : Video & PC Game Discussion

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:21:44 +0000

Author: TheProgtologist
Subject: Video & PC Game Discussion
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:21

I love JRPG's,and have been playing a lot of the recent DS ports like Chrono Trigger and DQ 4,5 and 6.There is a newer game I have been playing by Atlus called Radiant Historia that I really,really like.

I know they say they're dead but I am rediscovering JRPG's and really enjoying them.

Edited by TheProgtologist - Today at 10:22

Suggest New Bands and Artists : Marc Atkinson/Gabriel/Riversea (Crossover Prog)

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:21:43 +0000

Author: yam yam
Subject: Marc Atkinson/Gabriel/Riversea (Crossover Prog)
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:21

First ever live airing of the Riversea album 'Out Of An Ancient World' on Aiiradio.net: http://www.livestream.com/aiiradionet/video?clipId=pla_571fca9f-d02b-4c43-81ce-97addaacaa53. The artists invloved talk about the album and play the tracks on it. Sound levels are a bit low on this - you'll need to tweak the volume up, and the first minute and a half is just an advert, but otherwise well worth a listen. This link will only be available on line for a very short time, so tune in now!

Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge : Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:20:52 +0000

Author: rogerthat
Subject: Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:20

Iron Man, Paranoid is hardly where it's at. I have no idea why these songs get mentioned so often...maybe they got a lot of airplay on the radio. Barring Warpigs and the song Black Sabbath, Master of Reality is where Sabbath start getting interesting at all, for me.

Edited by rogerthat - Today at 10:21

Prog Polls : Dream Theater Survivor: Octavarium R1

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:20:51 +0000

Author: darkshade
Subject: Dream Theater Survivor: Octavarium R1
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:20

Originally posted by AlexDOM

I love I Walk Beside You, like one of the only upbeat DT songs with uplifting lyrics...

They are rare.

Prog Music Lounge : The 80s..the worst era for prog.

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:16:00 +0000

Author: smartpatrol
Subject: The 80s..the worst era for prog.
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:16

/\

Awesome

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:15:50 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:15

Originally posted by HolyMoly

Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Mother of All Saints

Band recently added to ProgArchives (thanks Damo!)

I just submitted a long-ass review of this album:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=753824

Now I'm listening!

Great review!

Interviews : Space Mirrors

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:14:49 +0000

Author: alieniam
Subject: Space Mirrors
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:14

From Transubstans Records website:
"We're very proud to announce that international space rock act SPACE MIRRORS is now signed to Transubstans Records, and will release an amazing album in August!"

http://www.transubstans.com/?module=main&news=76

Edited by alieniam - Today at 10:15

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:13:49 +0000

Author: Hawkwise
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:13

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:13:48 +0000

Author: snowsnow
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:13

Yes

Prog Polls : Opeth Survivor: Damnation R2

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:11:57 +0000

Author: Junges
Subject: Opeth Survivor: Damnation R2
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:11

I really don't like this album much. I think it is their weakest.

Anyway, Death Whispered a Lullaby.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:10:29 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:10

Anywho, I did recall a dream from yesterday but it was lame and weird, and not in a fun way.

I got a new job at a spy company, (I guess) and the boss was giving me my first job. I had to get a picture and collect some info (I didn't write it down ASAP and forgot what ) on this guy. I was asking how and he just angrily said "I don't care how you do it, just do it!" then handed me a camera. I asked is the camera silent and he shook his head no.

All I can remember...wtf

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:08:54 +0000

Author: Blacksword
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:08

Genesis.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:04:11 +0000

Author: darkshade
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:04

General discussions : The Motorsport Thread - 2012

Wed, 16 May 2012 10:00:17 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: The Motorsport Thread - 2012
Posted: May 16 2012 at 10:00

Well bloodlines really don't have anything to do with racing.
I just thought it'd be cool to have Andretti back, since they are one of the biggest names in North American racing...open wheel not that stock car crap

Edit: Man JPM...I really thought that guy was going to be champion. What exactly did happen? I remember when he left, I thought he made some comments about the sport pretty much just being suck, was he just fed up/pissed off with F1 and couldn't take it anymore?

Edited by JJLehto - Today at 10:05

Prog Gigs, Tours and Festivals : Rush UK tour dates 2013

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:59:41 +0000

Author: Blacksword
Subject: Rush UK tour dates 2013
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:59

Thanks for heads up, Jim. I may try and make this one.

I'll try and get in early. I've always had sh*t seats when I've seen Rush, and the sound has always been dreadful. I think where you sit may have some bearing on this.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:56:12 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:56

Originally posted by stonebeard

A few people on this forum have had dreams with me in them. Just sayin.

By a few, you mean one.
I was also in there
Apparently I don't make as good 8 bit music as you or w/e the hell was going on.

Tanner why wait till summer??

Edit: Ooooohh because you're still in school Ya know I'll probably have a job in summer and be just as busy, but fine fine we can wait till Summer

Edited by JJLehto - Today at 09:57

Welcome newbies! : Hello

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:54:59 +0000

Author: aginor
Subject: Hello
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:54

hi and welcome

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:54:56 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:54

Eichmann?

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:54:11 +0000

Author: Smurph
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:54

I'm pretty sure the actual killing of Jews was not Hitler. He simply wanted them to be treated like sh*t and put in work camps. The architect of the Haulocaust was Himmler and one other dude, cant remember the name.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:51:45 +0000

Author: Slartibartfast
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:51

Official "Review Our Music" Board : Disconnect - "Enough Blame To Go Around" [2012]

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:49:00 +0000

Author: SuperHokie
Subject: Disconnect - "Enough Blame To Go Around" [2012]
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:49

All requested physical copies of the new CD have been mailed out to those who asked!

Also - "Enough Blame To Go Around" is now in playing rotation on Aural Moon for your listening pleasure:

http://auralmoon.com/

Thanks!

Music and Musicians Exchange : Any Double Reed players on the site?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:44:33 +0000

Author: Dayvenkirq
Subject: Any Double Reed players on the site?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:44

[Snap!] Just remembered: I have VSTHost on which orchestral Edirol is loaded where I have a wide variety of orchestral instruments: flute, strings, oboe, you name it.

General Music Discussions : Scott Walker: a very progressive artist

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:43:19 +0000

Author: TheGazzardian
Subject: Scott Walker: a very progressive artist
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:43

If I recall correctly, the lyrics to "The Drift" are all found lyrics from magazines and newspapers and such...

General discussions : Prog Chefs Unite!!!

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:40:41 +0000

Author: Dean
Subject: Prog Chefs Unite!!!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:40

Originally posted by Jim Garten

Originally posted by Dean

My pet hate are serrated knives (Kitchen Devils - hawk...spit!)

With you on that; we had some Kitchen Devils some time ago; bloody awful things & there was a serrated one in that set - I still bear the scars!

Ah, yes, this was the one:

What mad man thought of putting a cutting edge on both sides of the blade?!?! Okay on a bayonet or for killing bear, but in the kitchen? Dreadful knife.

Get The Word Out : Selling Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa CDs

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:33:29 +0000

Author: Paradox
Subject: Selling Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa CDs
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:33

Hello everyone!

I have finally decided to sell off my Pink Floyd and Frank Zappa CD back catalogues. So I've put all the titles I own up for sale on eBay. I do this with regret, but after having moved to a smaller house I really can't justify owning tonnes of CD's any more. Anyway, here's a list of the titles that are available. I'm sure many of you will find at least something you're interested in!

01. Frank Zappa � Freak Out! (1966) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759275208?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

02. Frank Zappa � Absolutely Free (1967) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759237219?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

03. Frank Zappa � Lumpy Gravy (1967) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759234684?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

04. Frank Zappa � We�re Only In It For The Money (1968) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759286122?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

05. Frank Zappa � Cruising With Ruben And The Jets (1968) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759291953?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

06. Frank Zappa � Uncle Meat [2 CD] (1969) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759328118?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

07. Frank Zappa � Hot Rats (1969) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759293958?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

08. Frank Zappa �Burnt Weeny Sandwich (1970) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759295694?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

09. Frank Zappa � Weasels Ripped My Flesh (1970) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759304269?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_935wt_1139

10. Frank Zappa � Chunga�s Revenge (1970) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759308633?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

11. Frank Zappa � Fillmore East � June 1971 (1971) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759243682?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

12. Frank Zappa � 200 Motels (1971) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759351118?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_935wt_1396

13. Frank Zappa � Just Another Band From L.A. (1971) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759239215?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

14. Frank Zappa � Waka/Jawaka (1972) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759242246?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

15. Frank Zappa � The Grand Wazoo (1972) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759240362?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

16. Frank Zappa �Over-Nite Sensation (1973) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759273126?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

17. Frank Zappa � Apostrophe (�) (1974) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759221756?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

18. Frank Zappa � Roxy & Elsewhere (1974) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759223627?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

19. Frank Zappa � One Size Fits All (1975) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759217544?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

20. Frank Zappa � Bongo Fury (1975) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759210899?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_781wt_1396

21. Frank Zappa � Zoot Allures (1976) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759208378?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_781wt_1396

22. Frank Zappa � Studio Tan (1978) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758869213?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_776wt_1396

23. Frank Zappa � Zappa In New York (1978) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758873172?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_781wt_1396

24. Frank Zappa � Sleep Dirt (1979) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759209594?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_781wt_1396

25. Frank Zappa � Sheik Yerbouti (1979) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759278705?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

26. Frank Zappa � Orchestral Favourites (1979) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759280836?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

27. Frank Zappa � Joe�s Garage Acts I, II & III (1979) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759388507?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

28. Frank Zappa � You Are What You Is (1981) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759224854?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

29. Frank Zappa � Shut Up �N Play Yer Guitar [3 Disc] (1981) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759400317?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_955wt_1396

30. Frank Zappa � Tinsel Town Rebellion (1981) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759276928?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

31. Frank Zappa � Ship Arriving Too Late To Save A Drowning Witch (1982) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759245287?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

32. Frank Zappa � The Man From Utopia (1983) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759212157?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_809wt_1396

33. Frank Zappa � Baby Snakes (1983) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759213757?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_823wt_1139

34. Frank Zappa � Francesco Zappa (1984) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759297338?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

35. Frank Zappa � Them Or Us (1984) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759230548?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

36. Frank Zappa � Thing-Fish (1984) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759314596?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

37. Frank Zappa � The Perfect Stranger (1984) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759215523?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_809wt_1396

38. Frank Zappa � Frank Zappa Meets The Mothers Of Prevention (1985) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759247708?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

39. Frank Zappa � JazzFrom Hell (1986) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759246424?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

40. Frank Zappa � Does Humour Belong In Music? (1986) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759282521?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

41. Frank Zappa �Guitar (1988) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759331520?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

42. Frank Zappa � Broadway The Hard Way (1988) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759301276?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

43. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 1 (1988) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759355434?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

44. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 2 (1988) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759361462?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

45. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 3 (1989) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759364823?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

46. Frank Zappa � The Best Band You Never Heard In Your Life (1991) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759384857?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

47. Frank Zappa � Make A Jazz Noise Here (1991) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759380821?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

48. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 4 (1991) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759367281?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

49. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 5 (1992) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759369122?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

50. Frank Zappa � You Can�t Do That On Stage Anymore, Volume 6 (1992) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759375241?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_935wt_1396

51. Frank Zappa �Playground Psychotics (1992) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759229071?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

52. Frank Zappa �Ahead Of Their Time (1993) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759288843?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

53. Frank Zappa � TheYellow Shark (1993) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759407032?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_935wt_1396

54. Frank Zappa � London SymphonyOrchestra, Vols. 1 & 2 (1995) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759232674?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

55. Frank Zappa � Lost Episodes (1996) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759411797?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_935wt_1396

56. Frank Zappa � L�ther (1996) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759322094?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

57. Frank Zappa � Have I Offended Someone? (1997) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759419698?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

58. Frank Zappa � Mystery Disc (1998) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759416650?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

59. Frank Zappa � Cheap Thrills (1998) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759220332?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1396

60. Frank Zappa � Son Of Cheep Thrills (1999) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200759218925?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_915wt_1139

01. Pink Floyd � The Piper At TheGates Of Dawn (1967) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758858746?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

02. Pink Floyd � A Saucerful OfSecrets (1968) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758860492?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

03. Pink Floyd � More (1969) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758862434?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

04. Pink Floyd � Ummagumma (1969) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758828440?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_776wt_1396

05. Pink Floyd � Atom Heart Mother (1970) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758775212?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

06. Pink Floyd � Meddle (1971) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758776988?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

07. Pink Floyd � Relics (1971) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758865056?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

08. Pink Floyd � Obscured By Clouds (1972) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758772783?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

09. Pink Floyd � Dark Side Of The Moon (1973) [SACD] http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758849639?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_790wt_1139

10. Pink Floyd � Wish You Were Here (1975) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758752806?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_776wt_1139

11. Pink Floyd � Animals (1977) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758757537?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_776wt_1139

12. Pink Floyd � The Wall (1979) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758760877?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_790wt_1139

13. Pink Floyd � The Final Cut (1983) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758764681?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

14. Pink Floyd � A Momentary Lapse Of Reason (1987) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758766557?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

15. Pink Floyd � The Delicate Sound Of Thunder (1988) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758769295?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

16. Pink Floyd � The Division Bell (1994) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758851581?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_762wt_1396

17. Pink Floyd � Pulse (1995) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758855139?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_790wt_1139

18. Pink Floyd � Is There Anybody Out There? The Wall � Live (2000) http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/200758761942?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_795wt_1139

Prog Polls : Opeth Survivor: Damnation R2

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:33:21 +0000

Author: Anthony H.
Subject: Opeth Survivor: Damnation R2
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:33

VOTE FOR YOUR LEAST FAVORITE TRACK.

The song with the most votes gets eliminated. The final two go to the finals, and the third-place track moves to a consolation round.

1)
2)
3)
4)
5)
6)
7) ?
8) Weakness

Hmmm... I'll go with Lullaby this time.

Orchid
1) Under the Weeping Moon
2) In Mist She Was Standing
3) Forest of October
4) The Twilight Is My Robe
5) The Apostle In Triumph
6) Silhouette
7) Requiem

Morningrise
1) To Bid You Farewell
2) The Night and the Silent Water
3) Black Rose Immortal
4) Advent
5) Nectar

My Arms, Your Hearse
1) April Ethereal
2) When
3) Demon of the Fall
4) The Amen Corner [tie]
5) Karma [tie]
6) Credence
7) Epilogue
8) Prologue
9) Madrigal

Still Life
1) The Moor
2) Godhead's Lament
3) Serenity Painted Death
4) Face of Melinda
5) White Cluster
6) Moonlapse Vertigo
7) Benighted

Blackwater Park
1) The Drapery Falls
2) Blackwater Park
3) Bleak
4) The Leper Affinity
5) Harvest
6) The Funeral Portrait
7) Dirge for November
8) Patterns in the Ivy

Deliverance
1) Deliverance
2) Wreath [tie]
3) Master's Apprentices [tie]
4) A Fair Judgement
5) By the Pain I See in Others
6) For Absent Friends

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:33:01 +0000

Author: Jim Garten
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:33

very similar to this thread - to save duplicate threads, this one closed.

Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge : Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:32:53 +0000

Author: Dayvenkirq
Subject: Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:32

Originally posted by sagichim

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

... . What does Sabbath have? 'Iron Man'? 'Paranoid'? My ears say they are dead to me. Besides, I find Jimmy's riffs more melodic, more ... alive than Tony's.

Oh come on man! I guess you are not familiar with Sabbath if you mentioned these songs.
And tonny's riffing are not alive? Oh Oh!

Oh, I am familiar with those songs, and no matter how many times I hear them on the radio at my other job (those songs haven't got to the point of annoyance yet), they are just ... blah! I don't like Ozzy's voice, ... never liked it, and Tony does not sound as proficient as Jimmy. Of course one need not be really proficient; it's just that Tony ... I just think he can do better.

Prog Polls : Opeth Survivor: Damnation R1

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:32:13 +0000

Author: Anthony H.
Subject: Opeth Survivor: Damnation R1
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:32

A one-day poll this one shall be!

Weakness is eliminated.

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:31:10 +0000

Author: JJLehto
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:31

Well I used to be very very active on 4chan but thankfully I've kicked that habit in the teeth

I used to be on a Formula One forum but it died. Went back once and there was almost no one talking and the site didn't update in a year. Not sure why.

General Music Discussions : A Very Peculiar Notion

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:27:58 +0000

Author: RoyFairbank
Subject: A Very Peculiar Notion
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:27

@ OP

No, music is not a drug. Drugs impose on your thinking and alter it by blocking its natural functions.

Music satisfies your brain as it is.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:27:20 +0000

Author: Hawkwise
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:27

All time fav Hawks its like a warm hug .

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:26:51 +0000

Author: rushfan4
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:26

Originally posted by dreadpirateroberts

JMA and MMA, like some of us, I have the complete membership package.

This.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:25:51 +0000

Author: rushfan4
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:25

Jon Anderson does some singing on the track Stop Loving You.

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:22:46 +0000

Author: RoyFairbank
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:22

I used to post on news sites, but this is the only site I post on now. I find political sites like RevLeft to be distasteful, at least a number of years ago, when I gave them a short try. A lot of people with indefinite and unserious views who like to make stupid arguments. I have very definite views of a certain tendency, I don't want to argue with political neophytes or jokers.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:14:32 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:14

Thinking Fellers Union Local 282 - Mother of All Saints

Band recently added to ProgArchives (thanks Damo!)

I just submitted a long-ass review of this album:

http://www.progarchives.com/Review.asp?id=753824

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:12:06 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:12

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Thanks man! I really appreciate that.

I think my preferred period from them is the first couple of albums - with Rocksession being my fave.

I think I'll investigate a bit further though - seeing as they've got an enormous discog under their wing.

Also I happen to love mid-period Guru Guru, especially Tango Fango, and Embryo strike me as being somewhat similar - at least concerning the different fusion twists and turns undertaken by both bands.

That's good to know. I'm actually not as familiar with Guru Guru as I'd like to be, and I've definitely never heard Tango Fango, so I will try to check that out!

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:11:52 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:11

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:10:26 +0000

Author: dreadpirateroberts
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:10

JMA and MMA, like some of us, I have the complete membership package.

Used to visit a Sega forum in the past

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 09:01:52 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 09:01

I'm somewhat active on the Cardiacs forum.

General discussions : Rogues Gallery 3

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:58:53 +0000

Author: frippism
Subject: Rogues Gallery 3
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:58

huh, never seen this thread before!

Anywho, there I am:

I'm on the left.

Jealous, anyone?

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:57:40 +0000

Author: rushfan4
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:57

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:40:47 +0000

Author: Slartibartfast
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:40

Yes the nekkid dream is one of those common themes. I've also had the one where I had to go back to high school because there was some course that I hadn't completed even though in the dream timeline I had already graduated college.

Music and Musicians Exchange : Any Double Reed players on the site?

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:40:10 +0000

Author: Morsenator
Subject: Any Double Reed players on the site?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:40

Originally posted by Dayvenkirq

^ I play those classical instruments on my Yamaha keyboard from time to time, although I wish I owned the actual ones.

Yay, a reply I have a Yamaha keyboard too, but to my ear I've never heard a proper synthesized sound of any woodwind (especially the ones with lower registers, although that one lead sound Tangerine Dream used in the 70s does, to some extent, sound like an oboe). I guess when your ear has accustomed to your instrument, you become very pedantic in what you think it must sound like.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:39:02 +0000

Author: presdoug
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:39

Originally posted by frippism

Originally posted by presdoug

I started a thread on general dream discussion before. Oh well, must have been at least a year ago.

I was sure someone must have done a thread like this, but I couldn't find one in the search.

Originally posted by presdoug

I wanted to share with you all a dream that jarred me like no other, and occurred about 20 years ago.

        I was on a ship in the middle of the north Atlantic during WW2, and i was watching a confrontation between some of the ships sailors, and some Nazi SS Officers. The SS were drawing their weapons and threatening the seamen, saying "If you do not do as we say, we will kill you". I was kind of behind this, and could see what was happening, but they did not know i was there.
             then below me, a circle opened up on the floor, and i fell down, down through all the different levels of the ship, right into the lower levels, and could feel the coolness down there, and then i passed out.
           When i woke up (still in the dream), i was underneath the sea floor in some sort of cavern. In my left hand was a pitcher of water, and stacked in front of me were human bodies cased in ice. They looked like soldiers, and i poured some of the water in my pitcher on the closest one, and it was Hitler in his uniform! He twisted and broke through the ice, and climbed up. As he was shaking the ice off of his uniform, he grinned his fiendish grin, and asked me what my name was? I replied, "Doug". Still grinning fiendishly, he shook my hand vigorously and said "Thanks, Doug"
          Lying next to him was a block of ice with none other than the encased body of Heinrich Himmler. I was so scared of Himmler that i woke up in fright.Though Hitler is more to blame for what happened regarding the Nazis, i have always had a more terrible fear of Himmler.

This made me laugh a lot, sorry if it was a really scary one but the part with Hitler shaking your hand almost had me on the floor.

Also it reminded me of this

[tube]?v=9S75Rfva9O8[/tube]

probably one of the funniest Youtube videos I've ever seen.

EDIT: And yes Himmler is much scarier than Hitler.

Sorry, frippism, but i don't have the capability of seeing youtube videos properly (I have no sound with my computer, and videos trickle in only a few seconds at a time)
I 'll save the title of it, and when i am at my sister's, i will watch it there

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:36:16 +0000

Author: Guldbamsen
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:36

Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Embryo - Opal

Highly influential Krautrock gem from the 'genre's' infancy. I love it to pieces myself.

Embryo rules!

You know it Steve!

Speaking of which - I saw you posting that middle period album of theirs yesterday(or the day before that) - can't remember what it was, but anyway: How is it? I have up until the "Cosmic Egg" y'know We Keep On and then Reise, but am completely lost on that middle period.

Yo David!
That must have been "Bad Heads and Bad Cats" I was listening to. Not one of their best, but I really haven't heard a bad album by them. This one is fairly jazz fusiony, with less of the Eastern stuff, kinda slick and funky. Like "Flyday" Kraan, perhaps? "Surfin'" and "Apo-calypso" are kind of similar to that too. All three have acquired the reputation as their "bad albums", but I think they still sound great. It's a gentle dream trip kind of sound.

"Embryo's Reise", from the late 70s, is my favorite by them. I like the real early albums like Opal, Rache, and Father too, but I think I like the band best when they play Indian modes, which happened a little later.. "Reise" has lots of that, as well as imaginative jazz fusion and some pretty hot rock numbers too.

Thanks man! I really appreciate that.

I think my preferred period from them is the first couple of albums - with Rocksession being my fave.

I think I'll investigate a bit further though - seeing as they've got an enormous discog under their wing.

Prog Music Lounge : Bands like dirty three?

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:31:17 +0000

Author: Lima96
Subject: Bands like dirty three?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:31

How about the Neil Cowley Trio?

[TUBE]t3f69vIyImM[/TUBE]

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:29:15 +0000

Author: Slartibartfast
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:29

General Music Discussions : Worst and Best show?

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:26:14 +0000

Author: dtguitarfan
Subject: Worst and Best show?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:26

Worst: being a Progressive Metal fan, I've gone to more than a few shows where, in order to get to the band I came to see, I've had to suffer through some god-awful screamo or growly amateur death metal. One in particular sticks out. It was a band called Sanctuary. Their lyrics were so full of hate, and at one point the singer made fun of this dude who was there with his girlfriend. I was in the front row with my brother and we were totally bored. At one point the singer says "put your hands in the air!" We didn't. So the lead guitarist leans down close to us and shouts "put your f***in' hands in the air!!!"

Best musically speaking: I was in Radio City Music Hall for the 20th anniversary show of Dream Theater where they played with an orchestra - most amazingly clear sound I've ever experienced and they played perfectly.

Best show: Trans Siberian Orchestra - the lights, the "actors", the "snow", the explosions, the many musicians...amazing.

General discussions : Discuss Dreams!

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:23:32 +0000

Author: presdoug
Subject: Discuss Dreams!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:23

I remember having a rather embarrassing dream when i was about 8 years old, where i got up to go to school (i must have been in grade 3 or something)
The thing is, i was naked! I remember not realising i was naked until i had entered my school, and how embarrassed i was to find myself in a situation like that.

Help us improve the site : Defining the value of "5 star" ratings?

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:21:08 +0000

Author: Ambient Hurricanes
Subject: Defining the value of "5 star" ratings?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:21

Originally posted by Dean

I think it is a matter of degree - purely subjective reviews, while eminently possible, are ultimately superfluous. Just describing a liking or disliking Hendrix doesn't really tell me a great deal about his playing, or even hint at whether I would like it or not; for me the reviews that just give a wholly subjective opinion could be describing anything and often after reading them I'm left wondering if the reviewer heard the same album I did. Similarly purely objective reviews can give a cold academic analysis of playing and compositional techniques accompanied by a minute by a minute breakdown of each track that again gives no hint at whether I would like it or not.

One thing that music over the past forty years should have taught us by now is that great playing does not necessarily mean a great album and cold analysis of a great album tends to reveal the flaws more than it does the moments of genius.

Is it possible to write a purely objective review? - arguably yes, though whether it would actually be a review is another question, and whether anyone is really skilled enough to write one is another matter. There is also the question of whether anyone would actually want to read it - generally they would only make sense (and thus have any value) once you've bought the album and have heard it yourself.

Striking that happy medium, whether it is subjectively objective or objectively subjective, is where most reviews sit, and when I see people arguing over subjective vs. objective they are not really arguing the extremes of purely subjective and purely objective but differing degrees of objectivity and subjectivity in the same review.

Exactly. No one is suggesting that reviews be purely objective, so even a relatively objective review is not going to meet the qualifications of that definition, Rob. All I'm saying is that it is possible (and should be encouraged) for a reviewer to recognize the objective value of an album apart from his likes and dislikes. The review does not have to be purely objective for him to acknowledge that. To use your example, even if you don't like Hendrix' playing, if you're reviewing his album you can at least acknowledge his technical skill, originality, and influence on future guitarists. Going beyond that, you could try to recognize an emotional/cathartic value to the music that exists but that you just don't happen to get. That's where "objectivity" gets tricky, because there's a large degree of subjectivity involved in trying to make that objective judgement! I think it's still commendable, though, for a reviewer to try and recognize that value. It's not going to happen perfectly, but I think it could really improve the quality of a review.

Of course, this all depends on if you believe in an objective value of music at all, which is an argument for another thread.

Prog Tribute Bands and Prog Radio : Love Letters #107 - May Birthday Celebration

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:16:49 +0000

Author: Soundman
Subject: Love Letters #107 - May Birthday Celebration
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:16

Live recordings from birthday artists Bill Bruford, Rick Wakeman, Steve Hogarth, Christina Booth, Andy Latimer, and more. Plus new live recordings from IQ, Marillion, and Brit Floyd. Available now for streaming, download, or subscription at http://www.thedividingline.com/ll

Find the playlist here: http://www.thedividingline.com/yabbse/index.php/topic,1278.msg10045.html#msg10045

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:16:29 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:16

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Embryo - Opal

Highly influential Krautrock gem from the 'genre's' infancy. I love it to pieces myself.

Embryo rules!

You know it Steve!

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:11:50 +0000

Author: Guldbamsen
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:11

Edited by Guldbamsen - Today at 08:14

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:08:45 +0000

Author: Svetonio
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:08

Prog Music Lounge : Prog and Spotify

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:07:07 +0000

Author: Negoba
Subject: Prog and Spotify
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:07

The disconnect is that artist contracts don't account for this kind of playing. The record companies, I believe, do get paid fairly well for Spotify plays, but they are not then passing along normal royalties to artists. Which is not a surprise.

I use Spotify all the time. It doesn't have everything but it sure does help.

General Music Discussions : Worst and Best show?

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:05:04 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: Worst and Best show?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:05

Originally posted by catfood03

Best: Prince. This was right after he dropped the symbol he used for a name and went on tour to play all his old hits. I think this was back in 2004? 2005? He is not my favorite musician, but he did put on a really good show.

I'll bet! One time I went out to a bar, and the local radio station was there having a drawing for tickets to an upcoming Prince concert. All the Prince fans were there in droves, dressed in Prince-like costumes and such. I had no real interest in Prince, but I put my name in the box anyway, just because it was there.

And I won the tickets. Woo hoo! But I was immediately surrounded by Prince maniacs offering to buy my tickets. I didn't really care one way or the other, so I think I sold the pair for $150, which I thought was a lot of money. Then someone told me it was his first live performance in quite a while, and this particular show was going to be to a very small crowd in an intimate setting, and that the tickets were actually probably worth a lot more. Oh well.

Many years later, I happened to be channel surfing, and came across a live Prince performance. Not sure when it was from, but it wasn't the Purple Rain era, it was much later. I was pleasantly surprised how much I enjoyed it. Very solid, passionate, even virtuosic performance from Prince, with some excellent guitar work. He's one talented guy.

Edited by HolyMoly - Today at 08:05

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:04:05 +0000

Author: Dean
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:04

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Dean

Slapp Happy... short girlie on the left is Dagmar, tall dude in the middle is Peter Blegvad.

I guess I'm ignorant. Nonje of that means a thing to me.

Nevermind, if you're not into Slapp Happy, Henry Cow, Art Bears or Dagmar then it's not surprising. We can't all know everything (I know I've tried, my memory leaks).

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:03:26 +0000

Author: Ambient Hurricanes
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:03

Edited by Ambient Hurricanes - Today at 08:05

Prog Music Lounge : Prog and Spotify

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:01:50 +0000

Author: Morsenator
Subject: Prog and Spotify
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:01

Originally posted by spknoevl

Originally posted by BlakeMcQ

As a new prog artist, we're wary of Spotify (from the artist's point of view, that is). Been reading a lot of arguments for and against it. It pays independent artists very little. But is that better than nothing? At the moment we're not on, but could be convinced.

Spotify pays artists very, very little, which is one of the reasons Robert Fripp refuses to allow the KC catalogue to be played. I recall reading somewhere that even Lady Gaga received a payment of less than $200 last year for all the plays of her music on Spotify. I know my own payments are next to nothing; according to my report I receive $.001 per play.

I have to admit that I do use the free service - but only to check out artists before I buy their music. I would never subscribe to Spotify.

Yeah, the artist's profit from it is basically nothing. I mainly use it to check out albums I couldn't listen to anywhere else (and that list is surely long..)

Prog Music Lounge : Prog and Spotify

Wed, 16 May 2012 08:00:01 +0000

Author: Smurph
Subject: Prog and Spotify
Posted: May 16 2012 at 08:00

They didnt have Cardiacs so I decided it can screw offs. :-)

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:58:17 +0000

Author: Guldbamsen
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:58

Originally posted by HolyMoly

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Embryo - Opal

Highly influential Krautrock gem from the 'genre's' infancy. I love it to pieces myself.

Embryo rules!

You know it Steve!

General discussions : Prog Chefs Unite!!!

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:54:49 +0000

Author: Jim Garten
Subject: Prog Chefs Unite!!!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:54

Originally posted by Dean

My pet hate are serrated knives (Kitchen Devils - hawk...spit!)

With you on that; we had some Kitchen Devils some time ago; bloody awful things & there was a serrated one in that set - I still bear the scars!

Vicky bought me the Japanese set after I bought a cheap(ish) santoku knife - as you say, they take some getting used to, but couldn't do without these in the kitchen now.

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:54:27 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:54

I participate on the Amazon.com customer forums for "Classic Rock" , "Progressive Rock", and "Music". Some good folks there, some have become friends over the years. The "Progressive Rock" one is not that active, but the "Classic Rock" one is extremely active, and I've learned a lot there.

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:53:51 +0000

Author: Guldbamsen
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:53

Originally posted by Dean

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Who's that now - I mean in the pic? Fred?

Seriously tough - the pic says something about a Marillion weekend when you quote it, but to my recollection, that is definitely not how Marillion look like

... it's definitelty how Marillion look now (but not in 1983 obviously) - Steve H is on the left, Mark Kelly's in the middle, Ian Mosley is behind the drum kit and the chap onthe right is Steve Rothery.

Snap!

I wasn't even kidding (muchly).

Thanks for clearing things up Dean

Tech Talk : What do you listen to prog on?

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:52:33 +0000

Author: Hawkwise
Subject: What do you listen to prog on?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:52

Vinyl

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:51:45 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:51

Originally posted by Hawkwise

I just bought that myself, going to give it a first listen today!

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:51:15 +0000

Author: HolyMoly
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:51

Originally posted by Guldbamsen

Embryo - Opal

Highly influential Krautrock gem from the 'genre's' infancy. I love it to pieces myself.

Embryo rules!

General discussions : Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:49:57 +0000

Author: Guldbamsen
Subject: Are you active on any other forum beside progrock?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:49

I frequent the Delicious Danes site on a regular basis

Nah - I used to participate in Nepenthes' online discussions about environment and such things, but I don't believe any of the stuff we get fed online by governments, so I stopped. Still very enamoured with nature and animals. People comes third, but only if they behave...

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:49:23 +0000

Author: spknoevl
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:49

King Crimson - 3 decades of groundsbreaking music while constantly evolving musically and withstanding numerous personel changes. The fact that they never sold out and went pop like some other prog acts is a bonus.

Edited by spknoevl - Today at 07:50

General discussions : News of the day

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:48:19 +0000

Author: Slartibartfast
Subject: News of the day
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:48

Justin Bieber Style Emo Haircuts May Cause Lazy Eye < this haircut can cause shaken adult-baby syndrome.

Edited by Slartibartfast - Today at 07:49

Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge : Rush vs Led Zeppelin

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:45:20 +0000

Author: spknoevl
Subject: Rush vs Led Zeppelin
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:45

Considering that Rush started in playing Zep covers in the Toronto bars, this poll is pretty funny. Really don't see a need to choose one over the other; they're both great bands who greatly influenced rock music.

Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge : Favourite Led Zeppelin album?

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:43:38 +0000

Author: spknoevl
Subject: Favourite Led Zeppelin album?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:43

Houses of the Holy, which I actually didn't like at first, closely followed by II and VI. They're actually all great except for the very last one, but those 3 really stand out for me.

General discussions : Prog Chefs Unite!!!

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:42:41 +0000

Author: Slartibartfast
Subject: Prog Chefs Unite!!!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:42

Originally posted by Dean

This week we've been cooking meals from "Jamie's 30-Minute Meals" book, which seem to take us about three quarters of an hour to cook with two of us sharing the tasks, and then it all seems very rushed and stressful.

Yes, well, two people don't quite make for a whole kitchen staff. Yeah, back when Rachel Ray was new on the scene with her 30 minute meal program we tuned in on occasion and kind of noticed that there was no way in hell those took 30 minutes, she was obviously having a lot more done during those commercial breaks.

But yes a good set of knives, the ultimate multi-taskers. Food prep. Murder weapons. Uh, maybe I've been watching a bit too much Law and Order.

Edited by Slartibartfast - Today at 07:45

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:37:49 +0000

Author: irrelevant
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:37

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul

Originally posted by iluvmarillion

Originally posted by HarbouringTheSoul

Frank Zappa is not a band, is he?

Because Frank Zappa is obviously #1.

OK, call him the Mothers Of Invention.

Not the same.

Frank Zappa counts anyway.

Top 10s and lists : Pick Only One #1: Band

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:37:19 +0000

Author: Hawkwise
Subject: Pick Only One #1: Band
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:37

42 years and still Flying !!!

Edited by Hawkwise - Today at 07:38

Prog Polls : The Best Prog Supergroup (excluding EL&P)!

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:33:00 +0000

Author: spknoevl
Subject: The Best Prog Supergroup (excluding EL&P)!
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:33

Originally posted by yanch

Tough choice between UK and Transatlantic. In the end I have to vote Transatlantic because they've been able to stay together a long while and produce some pretty consistent and good music. If the original UK line up had stayed together for several albums I probably have voted for them. I think the first UK album is excellent.

That's the very reason I voted for UK; the original line-up only recorded one album, yet people still talk about it to this day.

General Music Discussions : What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:32:35 +0000

Author: Hawkwise
Subject: What Are You Listening To Right...Now?! Febus MK 9
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:32

Proto-Prog and Prog-Related Lounge : Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:32:34 +0000

Author: PyramidMeetsTheEye
Subject: Black Sabbath vs. Led Zeppelin
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:32

Led Zeppelin,awesome band much better than black sabbath

General Music Discussions : Bandcamp Recommendations

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:31:27 +0000

Author: Svetonio
Subject: Bandcamp Recommendations
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:31

Aulos ' Ep Ic http://aulos.bandcamp.com/album/ep-ic

Edited by Svetonio - Today at 07:39

General Polls : Which Islay malt do you prefer?

Wed, 16 May 2012 07:30:48 +0000

Author: Sean Trane
Subject: Which Islay malt do you prefer?
Posted: May 16 2012 at 07:30

Originally posted by OT R�ih�l�

That's a very good graphic, Sean. I hadn't bumped into it before. However, the taste/nose might be a bit more individual thing. I don't think it's possible to spot your favourite without tasting (I'm not saying the graphic would claim that to be the case).

For example, I find Ardbeg not that light, but much, much peatier than the graphic; definitely less smoky than Laphroaig 10. And to me, Lagavulin 16 isn't that smoky, but very peaty. Also, Taliskers should be higher up, very close to the top border.

Words aren't after all very precise expressions when describing a malt. I just can't understand how anyone can find anything delicate in Glenfiddich...

I'd agree that the worded descriptions are not really 100% reliable (every palate is different too) - I think the Rich-Light axis should be somewhat renamed, although I suspect that they're talking about concentration of phenols in the malts, more than pure taste.

And neither is the actual map placement 100% accurate (ex: Dalmore - my utmost fave - is 10 km away from Glenmorangie and should not be in Beige, but in Orange colour), but it's certainly fairly trustworthy enough an indication to my (and most) tastes.

Yes, I find Laphroaig more smoky than Ardberg (from memory at least - I'll know more when I open the sample next week or after), I also think Talisker (only tried the 10Y) should be at the top of the Y-axis, but centered (it is quite peaty compared to Ard and Laph) and Laguavullin is also tops on Y-axis, but indeed very peaty

After all, it's only fairly recent that I was able to distinguish clearly smoky from peaty

On the other hand, if not delicate Glenfiddich is one of the more "grassy" malt I've tasted, along with the Dalwhinnie, but the chart separates them

Originally posted by Snow Dog

Originally posted by Sean Trane

Originally posted by Snow Dog

So my Jura would be pretty nice for you?

That one and Bruichladdich and Bunnahabain are definitely more up my alley, yes.

Well pop around and lets's finish a bottle.

I may just take you up on that oiffer next time I "island-pop", but it certainly won't be before the olympics... But i am planing to do something in the mid-future (say before 2014) between Wales, Lake District, Loch Ness/Inverness area and Edimburg (where my parents lived from 85 to 90)