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ScorchedFirth
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Topic: Modern Albums from the Neo-Prog Big 4 Posted: March 25 2013 at 16:38 |
By 'The Big 4' I mean Marillion, Arena, Pendragon, and IQ (I don't think it is widely disputed). I chose their best loved albums from the 21st century.
I think they all did a pretty good job of updating their sound here, you definitely couldn't mistake any of these albums as coming from the 'classic' neo-prog period.
My favourite is Frequency, which also happens to be the most recent, but they're all good.
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zbida
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 16:54 |
Frequency is so good... But Pendragon is my personal favourite.
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:01 |
Frequency can't even be compared to the others. I'm not much into neo (I've been in the past) and that IQ album conquered me at the first listen.
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richardh
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:18 |
octopus-4 wrote:
Frequency can't even be compared to the others. I'm not much into neo (I've been in the past) and that IQ album conquered me at the first listen. |
Some consider it to be a modern symph prog album. It sits comfortably between two genres to my ears. The new keyboard player and drummer broadened out the sound quite considerably.Technically that is the best IQ line up imo.
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Mellotron Storm
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:24 |
I'm leaning towards Pendragon but I need to listen to these.
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lucas
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:43 |
Frequency
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King Crimson776
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:48 |
I was actually thinking Pallas rather than Arena. Their "Dreams of Men" would be a contender here.
Dark Matter is best IQ, though Frequency wins easily enough too. IQ has plenty of legit symphonic to it. Marillion and Pendragon mixed in too much ambient and alt/metal respectively.
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 17:50 |
King Crimson776 wrote:
I was actually thinking Pallas rather than Arena. Their "Dreams of Men" would be a contender here.
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I was thinking the same thing, that it's usually Pallas listed ahead of Arena. Went with Marbles, but it was a very tough choice between that and Pure.
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 18:05 |
Frequency over Marbles
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Progmind
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 18:53 |
Marbles over Frequency Tough Poll, i really like all the albums from the list
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fusaka
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 19:02 |
I love Frequency, but Marbles is a much more mature album. Apart from The Damage which is not that great, the rest is a great return to form for a band that was searching for itself in the previous years. For all its qualities, and they are many, Frequency is still "IQ-as-usual". I still listen to it constantly, I don't mind.
Edited by fusaka - March 25 2013 at 19:03
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 19:49 |
I hope IQ isn't contested as Big 4 or whatever, seeing they're the only real good neo-prog band i've heard.
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Posted: March 25 2013 at 20:10 |
Marbles. And by Marbles, I mean this:
1. Invisible Man (13:37) 2. Neverland (10:55) 3. Ocean Cloud (17:58)
In the days of vinyl, the first two tracks would be Side 1, and the lengthy last track would be Side 2, and it would be one of the great prog albums of all time.
Edited by jude111 - March 25 2013 at 20:24
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 01:12 |
Arena - Contagion
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richardh
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 02:40 |
Horizons wrote:
I hope IQ isn't contested as Big 4 or whatever, seeing they're the only real good neo-prog band i've heard.
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controversial ..but its all an opinion
Pallas - Dreams Of Men is superb album and probably should have been in the poll
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ScorchedFirth
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 03:03 |
jude111 wrote:
Marbles. And by Marbles, I mean this:
1. Invisible Man (13:37) 2. Neverland (10:55) 3. Ocean Cloud (17:58)
In the days of vinyl, the first two tracks would be Side 1, and the lengthy last track would be Side 2, and it would be one of the great prog albums of all time.
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Ha, i've had that thought myself, only with ocean cloud for side one like CTTE.
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Hercules
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 04:58 |
richardh wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
Frequency can't even be compared to the others. I'm not much into neo (I've been in the past) and that IQ album conquered me at the first listen. |
Some consider it to be a modern symph prog album. It sits comfortably between two genres to my ears. The new keyboard player and drummer broadened out the sound quite considerably.Technically that is the best IQ line up imo. |
If you are suggesting that Mark Westworth was a better keyboard player than Martin Orford, I respectfully but vehemently disagree.
I like all these albums (a lot) but Frequency is just the best of them. And as I've said many times, IQ are a symphonic prog band - neo prog is a pointless (albeit well established in the mythology of prog) classification.
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 07:20 |
Marbles is genius. The others are merely utterly superb.
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yanch
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 08:00 |
Frequency for me.
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richardh
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Posted: March 26 2013 at 15:56 |
Hercules wrote:
richardh wrote:
octopus-4 wrote:
Frequency can't even be compared to the others. I'm not much into neo (I've been in the past) and that IQ album conquered me at the first listen. |
Some consider it to be a modern symph prog album. It sits comfortably between two genres to my ears. The new keyboard player and drummer broadened out the sound quite considerably.Technically that is the best IQ line up imo. |
If you are suggesting that Mark Westworth was a better keyboard player than Martin Orford, I respectfully but vehemently disagree.
I like all these albums (a lot) but Frequency is just the best of them. And as I've said many times, IQ are a symphonic prog band - neo prog is a pointless (albeit well established in the mythology of prog) classification. |
Classifications are a bit pointless always
IQ are one of my favourite bands and have been for a long time. Orford is of course a great player and I cherish both of his solo albums but Westworth seemed to bring some much needed freshness at the very least..Funnily enough I was not that impressed with Dark Matter until I heard the Frequency line up play it live but hey ho.
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