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    Posted: October 17 2016 at 08:42
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

At the time, it felt like a huge slap in the face.   Grace Under Pressure indeed, but what "pressure"?   And this was "graceful"?   It wasn't just the overgroomed and flatly-produced music either; the whole look of the album was alarming with its gloomy grey tones and the band's weird new homoerotic haircuts.  

Something awful had happened between Signals and this one.   It might've been Terry Brown's absence or maybe someone convinced them to step into the new world of rock, but whatever it was it indicated just how far prog rock had slid down the hill.   A very bad year for a lot of longtime Rush fans, 1984 was.


I think you're comment about Terry Brown says a lot. They've gone on record saying that they wanted to move away from him and try new producers. I think the sound of GuP really reflects that wanting to change attitude.
It always struck me as odd that despite wanting to constantly change their music and always try new things, they hung on to Broon for as long as they did. I'd love to see them do another album with him as producer though. It's been so long since they worked with him that it might seem new and fresh
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 17 2016 at 08:25
The pretty good album, nowhere near Rush 70's records but it has very good moments. My favorite tracks are: Between the Wheels, Red Sector A and Distant Early Warning. BTW a track Red Lenses sucks. 
Any Rush album after GUP is meh for me. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 21:28
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 20:39
I really like it, it's not my favorite but still really solid. Distant Early Warning, Afterimage, The Enemy Within, and The Body Electric are all great songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 17:26
Grace Under Pressure is the cheesiest and best Rush album, in my opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 16:23
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Gosh - I haven't listened to this album for years - Red Lenses is my pick from this (very good) album. I recall my buddies giving me sh*t that it sounds like The Police...........
Weird thing for them to give you $H|t about--The Police are one of the best bands ever. ;-)

Anyway, I love Grace Under Pressure, but it and Power Windows would probably be close to the bottom of a ranked list of Rush albums for me.  But it's difficult to rank so many albums when you love all of them.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 08:41
Finally an album by Rush I could fully enjoy.

Don't get me wrong, I've listenend extensively to 70's Rush and 2112 is okay-ish. But in the 80's the songs were much more coherent, the drumming better, the sound was better and Geddy's voice got less high-pitched.
 
Rush would reach their top with Power Windows and Hold Your Fire.
When I come to think of it, I guess Grace Under the Pressure is the best.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: September 09 2016 at 08:35
GUP is a funny record for me. I rarely listen to it these days because overall the songs just don't resonate with me. Can't really explain it more than that or better than that. It's not that I think they're bad songs, they are mostly just kinda meh for me. Well, except Between The Wheels which is one of my all time favorite Rush songs. 

Both Signals and Power Windows both speak to me a lot more than GUP


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 10 2016 at 05:17
Originally posted by Rednight Rednight wrote:

Originally posted by Son.of.Tiresias Son.of.Tiresias wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

At the time, it felt like a huge slap in the face.   Grace Under Pressure indeed, but what "pressure"?   And this was "graceful"?   It wasn't just the overgroomed and flatly-produced music either; the whole look of the album was alarming with its gloomy grey tones and the band's weird new homoerotic haircuts.  

Something awful had happened between Signals and this one.   It might've been Terry Brown's absence or maybe someone convinced them to step into the new world of rock, but whatever it was it indicated just how far prog rock had slid down the hill.   A very bad year for a lot of longtime Rush fans, 1984 was.



Totally agree. Surprisingly dull and depressing in mood for a rock album, and Rush album especially after 1982īs  "Signals" positiveness. Very cold as well. I like also cold passages in music but GUP is just booooring in everything. Grey album. The fall of "new" prog (post-70īs if you like) is right there. Personally great times for me but not for prog. Strange feelings then... I give 4 stars to "Signals" but 1 to GUP


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 21:15
It's strange, I'm not much of a Rush fan, but it's the late 70's/early 80's albums from them that are the only ones I frequently return to (although I don't have `Moving Pictures' yet). I've worked out I much rather them because they don't have the screeching singing of the 70's stuff, even though those albums are their most overtly `proggy'. But everything else - the upfront bass, the sleek synths, the interesting drumming and the more restrained singing of intelligent rock/pop arrangements is really rather good.

I think `Grace...' was probably the first Rush album I kind of REALLY liked, and with the exception of `Red Lenses' (some of the vocal spots are irritating, but the rest has cool instrumental fills here and there), I think it's a top-notch rock/pop album, and I seem to spin it a heap in the background at work, very easy to enjoy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 20:55
Originally posted by Son.of.Tiresias Son.of.Tiresias wrote:

Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

At the time, it felt like a huge slap in the face.   Grace Under Pressure indeed, but what "pressure"?   And this was "graceful"?   It wasn't just the overgroomed and flatly-produced music either; the whole look of the album was alarming with its gloomy grey tones and the band's weird new homoerotic haircuts.  

Something awful had happened between Signals and this one.   It might've been Terry Brown's absence or maybe someone convinced them to step into the new world of rock, but whatever it was it indicated just how far prog rock had slid down the hill.   A very bad year for a lot of longtime Rush fans, 1984 was.



Totally agree. Surprisingly dull and depressing in mood for a rock album, and Rush album especially after 1982īs  "Signals" positiveness. Very cold as well. I like also cold passages in music but GUP is just booooring in everything. Grey album. The fall of "new" prog (post-70īs if you like) is right there. Personally great times for me but not for prog. Strange feelings then... I give 4 stars to "Signals" but 1 to GUP

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 13:20
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

If you could HEAR ice, it would sound like GUP...

I do love it though. I found it a little harsh on the ears at first, and a complete change from Signals with the guitar coming screaming to the foreground in the mix, but still offset with synths and electronic percussion.

It's a pretty consistent album and Between the Wheels and Afterimage are among my top Rush songs.



^Bolded part is so perfect....

An awesome album, their last great one in my opinion.  Much more consistently interesting and rocking than Signals.  It is very hard hitting and heavy but in a cold, calculated way that Blacksword noted.  It did and still does seem so intricate.  Great concert too, I remember it well.  3rd row I believe.  But some of the criticisms about production and mood are certainly fair.  I think both work to the album's ultimate advantage though, looking back.

I agree with David about the haircutsLOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: April 09 2016 at 12:08
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

At the time, it felt like a huge slap in the face.   Grace Under Pressure indeed, but what "pressure"?   And this was "graceful"?   It wasn't just the overgroomed and flatly-produced music either; the whole look of the album was alarming with its gloomy grey tones and the band's weird new homoerotic haircuts.  

Something awful had happened between Signals and this one.   It might've been Terry Brown's absence or maybe someone convinced them to step into the new world of rock, but whatever it was it indicated just how far prog rock had slid down the hill.   A very bad year for a lot of longtime Rush fans, 1984 was.


Totally agree. Surprisingly dull and depressing in mood for a rock album, and Rush album especially after 1982īs  "Signals" positiveness. Very cold as well. I like also cold passages in music but GUP is just booooring in everything. Grey album. The fall of "new" prog (post-70īs if you like) is right there. Personally great times for me but not for prog. Strange feelings then... I give 4 stars to "Signals" but 1 to GUP

"Signals" actually is a brilliant album, since my first experience with Rush music and that dark haired girl who played one c-cassette for me, over thirty years ago... Great times ... somewhere out of the memory ... nostalgia you know Smile 


Edited by Son.of.Tiresias - April 09 2016 at 12:20
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2016 at 10:37
Hate the production,  but love the album.  If it were produced more like the three albums that came before it, it would be legendary.  Despite the production, GUP, along with Hemispheres, are my favorite Rush albums.  

The "dark" theme doesn't bother me, because it works.  Afterimage is definitely my favorite from this album, though the first three songs are some of Rush's very best work.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2016 at 09:55
If you could HEAR ice, it would sound like GUP...

I do love it though. I found it a little harsh on the ears at first, and a complete change from Signals with the guitar coming screaming to the foreground in the mix, but still offset with synths and electronic percussion.

It's a pretty consistent album and Between the Wheels and Afterimage are among my top Rush songs.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2016 at 01:50
Gosh - I haven't listened to this album for years - Red Lenses is my pick from this (very good) album. I recall my buddies giving me sh*t that it sounds like The Police...........
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 26 2016 at 01:15
The album contains my favorite Lifeson solo. Kid Gloves' solo is Alex's personality summed up; fun energetic, and full of life.

The album is great, but I love every album these guys have ever made, so it me be a bit bias. Still prefer HYF to anything they put out in the 80s, and could make a solid argument as to that album being Geddy's best bass performance, but thats for another thread I suppose.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2016 at 20:50
^ It does have a few sparse moments
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 25 2016 at 19:42
I think it's an okay record. It's not as good as the albums from the 1978 - 1982 period, but it has some nice songs, particularly "Distant Early Warning", "Red Sector A", "The Enemy Within", "The Body Electric" and "Red Lenses", the latter being my favorite song on the album.
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