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    Posted: December 28 2023 at 22:39
I think Red is overrated, but both are great
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lumenko Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 28 2023 at 01:53
Red
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Van Jackson Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2023 at 17:48
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Larks is great, but they hadn't found the proper way to transfer their full potential to the record yet. Red, otherwise, sounds really fulfilled.

This is not my view of these two albums. I'd say, the difference is that Larks' Tongues is more influenced by avant-garde music, but it works best for me when listening to side 2 first.

This is how I feel. Larks' Tongues represents a sort of peak for KC for me personally. It has that avant flair that I so desperately seek and enjoy.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 13 2023 at 17:30
Originally posted by Heart of the Matter Heart of the Matter wrote:

Larks is great, but they hadn't found the proper way to transfer their full potential to the record yet. Red, otherwise, sounds really fulfilled.

This is not my view of these two albums. I'd say, the difference is that Larks' Tongues is more influenced by avant-garde music, but it works best for me when listening to side 2 first.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 11 2023 at 02:48
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote.

I have to admit, if looking at these two albums as multiart, I'm not very fascinated by the lyrics or the cover art. They're more like decent, I'd say.
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Larks' Tongues in Aspic.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote someone_else Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2023 at 02:10
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote.

If those two are only decent to you, then what would be examples of great albums in a comparable style?

Are there any? I have to admin that both albums are ground breaking and genuine, but they just fail to bring me in a state of praise on the edge of worship. Some tracks I really like, but others leave me totally cold.
Maybe Boojieboy's suggestion for a compilation is not that bad, though my choices may be different.
The only example of an album track (not the entire album) I can think of is UK's Carrying No Cross (somewhat similar to Starless: same length, same song structure, same John Wetton, but different instrumentation), which makes even Starless (arguably the best of the bunch) sound like an early draft version in my ears.

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote.

Anyway, that was quite brave and funny statement. Big smile


In this thread it surely is Smile.


Edited by someone_else - November 09 2023 at 02:17
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote suitkees Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2023 at 07:22
Both are great. I cannot choose one over the other; that is why I'm lousy in rating (which I don't, actually) and ranking albums.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote b_olariu Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2023 at 04:40
Red is the best KC album ever to me
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2023 at 08:51
Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote.

Anyway, that was quite brave and funny statement. Big smile



Edited by David_D - November 07 2023 at 09:22
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Saperlipopette! Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2023 at 06:38
Yep I voted for Red as it's among my "desert island discs", but of course thay are both great. I don't think anyone who treasures one of these - do not treasure the other as well.
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^ Still,

Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Both are great, but Red is greater.

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2023 at 04:49
Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:


By now, this poll looks like Red vs "both are great", which is not in accordance with what I had guessed as the most popular choice. 
I thought it would be "both are great", even I now can find Red to had been the best guess.

Just to help you interpret... picking one of these doesn't mean that not both are great. The options don't mutually exclude each other. I don't say "LTIA is not great" by voting for Red. Personally, I'm not a fan of sitting on the fence options in such polls, so I will vote for the one I prefer as long as I clearly know which one it is, regardless of whether or not I think "both are great". (Neither will you normally find me voting for "other" in polls where this is offered, even if I could easily have others in mind.)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2023 at 04:06

By now, this poll looks like Red vs "both are great", which is not in accordance with what I had guessed as the most popular choice. 
I thought it would be "both are great", even I now can find Red to had been the best guess.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote David_D Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 07 2023 at 03:51
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Originally posted by someone_else someone_else wrote:

Both equally, but I won't call either great, rather decent, so no vote.
If those two are only decent to you, then what would be examples of great albums in a comparable style?

very good question Thumbs Up

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Dellinger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2023 at 20:26
It's difficult to choose, both are great. I only wish they had still had the Larks line-up for Red.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Big Sky Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2023 at 19:11
My two favorite albums by King Crimson. Both are great. I would rank Red just ahead of LTIA.
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Larks' Tongues.
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I love both. I have very fond memories of both albums. Both are equal to me.
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Frets N Worries Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 06 2023 at 17:51
LTIA has grown on me, I think i'll listen to it again after this, I've been wanting to listen to it for a while, both are great... but Red remains my favorite KC album
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