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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8934 |
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And you have mentioned a fare bit of artists that I know by name only, and I will check youtube for some of those and see.... |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Online Points: 13361 |
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Those albums you've heard with Garbarek (including Esoteric Circle) and George Russell do not share any common ground with his solo outings really. I do love the wild free jazz (it still has a fusioneque groove, though) of Afric Pepperbird too - and actually find it hugely entertaining and fun, but I'm very much into that kind of jazz as well. |
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BrufordFreak ![]() Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: January 25 2008 Location: Wisconsin Status: Offline Points: 8663 |
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Thanks, Rollon! I look forward to checking those albums out--especially as I am nearing the end of my list of 1970s "Peak Era" J-R Fuse albums to review. I hope Terje can win me back over--though I see you've included in your list the 1971 eponymously-titled LP--which is the one that really turned me sour on his developmental choices. We'll see! |
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Saperlipopette! ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: December 20 2010 Location: Tomorrowland Status: Online Points: 13361 |
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Aargh! I wrote a long list with comments, but PA denied me posting it! Short version: Terje Rypdal, 1971 What Comes After, 1974 Whenever I seem to be Far Away, 1974 Odyssey, 1975 (Important: the epic Rolling Stone - is only included on Odyssey in Studio & In Concert on streaming/CD) Waves, 1978 Terje Rypdal / Miroslav Vitous / Jack DeJohnette , 1980 To Be Continued, 1981 (same line-up) A little Crimsonesque fusion warm up: Edited by Saperlipopette! - July 08 2025 at 14:24 |
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From Presdoug:
'I'm talking Jazz-rock Fusion, but in my title for the Poll, I had to lower the amount of letters in it for it to work, so I changed it to just "fusion", but yes, we're talking Jazz-rock fusion, here. I know some of the ones on your list, and of those I know, they don't hold a candle to my selection! I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the definition of quality in this time and genre!' Agreed! (to agree to disagree!) . . . "hold a candle" . . . that's a pretty strong statement, Doug! Would that be a beeswax candle, tallow, or glycerine? Area, SBB, Jan Akkerman, Fermáta, Michal Urbaniak ... not being able to hold a candle to *choke* anybody on your list! That's amazing! Guess I don't know my Jazz-Rock Fusion! So much to learn! And enjoy the process along the way! I've learned so much about Jazz and Jazz-Rock Fusion thanks to PA and YouTube. I'm very excited for how far I've come--and even more excited for how much more there is to learn! Before 2007 I thought Prog was dead and gone! I've been so fortunate to be prog-educated--to keep expanding my brain and knowledge--to watch my preferences change and grow. So there's more!?!?! BRING IT ON! Edited by BrufordFreak - July 08 2025 at 12:48 |
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presdoug ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: January 24 2010 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 8934 |
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I'm talking Jazz-rock Fusion, but in my title for the Poll, I had to lower the amount of letters in it for it to work, so I changed it to just "fusion", but yes, we're talking Jazz-rock fusion, here. I know some of the ones on your list, and of those I know, they don't hold a candle to my selection! I guess we will have to agree to disagree on the definition of quality in this time and genre! |
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Again, I'm wondering if Doug's definition of "Fusion" is different from my understanding of "Jazz-Rock Fusion," so, in that instance, yes, my comment might have been rather brash and "sh*tty." As for Terje Rypdal's prowess, I know his reputation, absolutely LOVE "Bleak House," but have yet to find enough consistency in A) his commitment to Jazz-Rock Fusion and B) his stylistic choices to find any consistent impression, much less enjoyment, of his playing. Due to my lack of finding any connection to his work either with George Russell and the Esoteric Circle stuff (often credited to Jan Garbarek--and I also lack connection to the majority of Jan Garbarek's output) as well to his solo stuff after Bleak House, I have lacked the motivation to listen to a lot of Terje's solo stuff over the course of the last three years and the over 700 Jazz and J-R Fusion albums I've reviewed. I welcome and ask for the albums to listen to that will get me re-excited for Terje's music. Any suggestions? (Have not connected AT ALL with Afric Pepperbird or "Terje Rypdal"--and I do usually choose to listen to an artist's discography in near-chronologic order.) At the same time, I stand by my statement and list: those are the albums I've heard over the past three years from European Continental BANDS that I have most connected with--who I esteem on a par with the Greats in the Anglo-American Scene. Edited by BrufordFreak - July 08 2025 at 12:34 |
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The ideal Solution.
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Out of my Eastern European Slav shіthole, String Connection was one of the very few standouts.
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Agreed. The sound engineering quality of those first five Passport albums is ahead of ANYTHING USA (or British) bands were producing at the time. Mind boggling the clean, clear, wonderfully-defined sound that they produced in 1971! |
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Wow! I have to say, "NONE!" I don't consider any of these artists "top tier" European Jazz-Rock Fusion artist except perhaps Klaus Doldinger.
My list would look like this (in no particular order): Area SBB Arti E Mestieri Iceberg Atoll Eberhard Weber Fermáta Cortex Etna Janne Schaffer Pop Workshop Michal Urbaniak Jan Akkerman Missus Beastly Zao Perigeo Secret Oyster Pekka Pohjola Chris Hinze Cervello/Nova Atila Association P.C. (Pierre Courbois) Out of Focus Moose Loose Volker Kriegel Extra Ball Jukka Hauru Jukka Tolonen Didier Lockwood ALL of these artists I would rate/rank higher than the ones you gave us to choose from, Doug! Sorry! No disrespect but perhaps we have very different definitions of Jazz-Rock Fusion. (Are we even talking about Jazz-Rock Fusion? You use the single-word term "Fusion." Perhaps you mean something completely different from me with that term!) |
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Rypdal is the only one I know.
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I'm throwing a bone to Il Baricentro because I love their two albums.
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Of the choices, Passport.
Shout out to Jean-Luc Ponty. |
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Lewian ![]() Prog Reviewer ![]() ![]() Joined: August 09 2015 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 15662 |
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I vote for Passport based on the quality of their best material even though they also have quite a bit that is not for me. Also love Terje Rypdal.
Edited by Lewian - July 07 2025 at 11:25 |
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