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    Posted: June 01 2007 at 12:55
Originally posted by MikeEnRegalia MikeEnRegalia wrote:

Well, at least on my website the band is available for tagging and reviewing:

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Genre: Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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Genre: Technical/Experimental Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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Genre: Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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Genre: Thrash Metal
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Genre: Classic Thrash Metal/NWoBHM
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Genre: Modern Thrash Metal/Hard Rock
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Genre: Heavy Metal
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Genre: Thrash Metal

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You could always write an essay for the Documents section of the site. What I would really like is that the documents there got a "Comment" facility.
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Well, at least on my website the band is available for tagging and reviewing:

1
excellent (8.7 / 10)
Genre: Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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excellent (8.8 / 9)
Genre: Technical/Experimental Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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excellent (8.9 / 8)
Genre: Classic Prog-Related Thrash Metal
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good (8.0 / 3)
Genre: Thrash Metal
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good (8.0 / 2)
Genre: Classic Thrash Metal/NWoBHM
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good (7.9 / 2)
Genre: Modern Thrash Metal/Hard Rock
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very good (8.1 / 1)
Genre: Heavy Metal
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sub par (5.9 / 2)
Genre: Thrash Metal

Looks good already!Smile


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Points: 4309 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 31 2007 at 20:09
Originally posted by Easy Livin Easy Livin wrote:

The Admin team considered the addition of Metallca very carefully. In the end, we could not come to a decision we could all agree on, so the matter was referred to M@x for the final say. He has come back with a very definite no. Metallica will not therefore be added.

No matter what the decision was, it was always going to be controversial. I'm sure those who were for them being added will respect the final decision, even though they disagree with it.


Cry I'm sad and disagree, but of course I respect the decision you made....
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Exactly what I've said, the final decision would end up with the site owners.
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^ I made my peace with admin decisions a long time ago ... this one doesn't surprise me, and I'm fine with it.Smile
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The Admin team considered the addition of Metallca very carefully. In the end, we could not come to a decision we could all agree on, so the matter was referred to M@x for the final say. He has come back with a very definite no. Metallica will not therefore be added.

No matter what the decision was, it was always going to be controversial. I'm sure those who were for them being added will respect the final decision, even though they disagree with it.
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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

^If we were discussing "Load", "ReLoad" and "St. Upid" (which are about as prog as "Love Beach", "Big Generator", "Under Raps", "We Can't Dance" or "Technical Travesty"), then the Wizard would be making an accurate statement.
 
Anything prior to those aforementioned disasters, and I would suggest that it is Metallica who do the kicking... Wink

Yes, Sabbath are a legend with Ozzy as the Icon. Metallica, though, are the ones that stand as the standard in inventive heavy metal. Sales wise, success wise, & influence wise that have surpassed all but Led Zep in the heavy duty sweepstakes. And if "progginess" were the determining factor, well ... Sabbath were not exactly prog monsters. Whereas a listen to Master of Puppets & And Justice for All clearly exhibit many prog qualities - time / tempo changes, multi part suites (although not the 20 minute version), and "deep" lyrics. Apart from some dissonant chord changes & the occasional "jazzy" interludes, not much of Sabbath come close to prog.
Now for those who think this biased, I am more of a fan of Black Sabbath than Metallica.
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Points: 7559 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2007 at 07:37
^If we were discussing "Load", "ReLoad" and "St. Upid" (which are about as prog as "Love Beach", "Big Generator", "Under Raps", "We Can't Dance" or "Technical Travesty"), then the Wizard would be making an accurate statement.
 
Anything prior to those aforementioned disasters, and I would suggest that it is Metallica who do the kicking... Wink
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Points: 64672 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 29 2007 at 04:37
Originally posted by Prog-jester Prog-jester wrote:

Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

My friend played me some songs. Not as heavy as I expected, it sounded like classic rock to me. Black Sabbath are 1000000 times better.


well, it depends on the era. Early METALLICA (83-88) is quite metalish, influental and proggy. I'd say Prog-Related, and only because of this era.


I think the Wizard is saying Sabbath kick the living sh*t out of Metallica on almost every level... but I could be wrong







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So now we're just discussing where to include them?

Just like Megadeth, Black Sabbath and Judas Priest, Metallica's already acknowledged in the History of Progressive Metal text. I'm all for Andu's suggestion. There's a lot of info here that could make that text better. Undoubtly most people think of Metallica as a band mainly belonging in a non-prog genre, but still related and very influential to Prog-Metal. Very much in  the same way Black Sabbath is historically important to PM, and desereves a mention.  
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Points: 5807 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 28 2007 at 09:09
Originally posted by The Wizard The Wizard wrote:

My friend played me some songs. Not as heavy as I expected, it sounded like classic rock to me. Black Sabbath are 1000000 times better.


well, it depends on the era. Early METALLICA (83-88) is quite metalish, influental and proggy. I'd say Prog-Related, and only because of this era.
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Originally posted by micky micky wrote:

Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

There is a great AC/DC song called "Beating around the bush"%3cimg 
I think itīs time to stop beating around the bush and make a poll, Those for Metallica going in Prog Related and those for Prog Metal.
 
I say Prog Related.


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I say... Prog Metal...  PR is not a good fit for them...

Have a drink on me 

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Originally posted by WaywardSon WaywardSon wrote:

There is a great AC/DC song called "Beating around the bush"%3cimg 
I think itīs time to stop beating around the bush and make a poll, Those for Metallica going in Prog Related and those for Prog Metal.
 
I say Prog Related.


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I say... Prog Metal...  PR is not a good fit for them...

Have a drink on me 

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Originally posted by Certif1ed Certif1ed wrote:

Most of those books that I've seen tend to be inaccurate.


That's true ... they contain glitches and errors. But I don't mind, they're rare and without the book/transcription it would take much, much longer to learn the song.


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^ Metallica songs? Which ones, if I may ask?
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Smileblack sabbath is good too......everything is good in its own way
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My friend played me some songs. Not as heavy as I expected, it sounded like classic rock to me. Black Sabbath are 1000000 times better.
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There is a great AC/DC song called "Beating around the bush"%3cimg 
I think itīs time to stop beating around the bush and make a poll, Those for Metallica going in Prog Related and those for Prog Metal.
 
I say Prog Related.


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Clapim not going to waste my time bickering about this for i notice there is always another perspective......i see what your saying is true......but if there wasnt an ac/dc i think metal wouldnt be the same.......respond if you must

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