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    Posted: August 21 2005 at 19:09

Just wanted to know why Electic Light Orchestra  was not here?

It has the classical elements that ELP has.

It has the poppish sound with progressive aspiration like Queen.

It has the conceptual side of A band like Alan Parson's Project.

Etc.

My point is, if you make Queen and Alan Parson's Project progressive bands, then a band like ELO certainly is.

Personally I don't think either of the three are, but as one said it's better to have more than less progressive bands ,then yes, ELO sould enter the progressive world.
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I didnt really like them Sounded like pop to me the only album I could call somewhat proggy was "face the music"
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I'm wondering why Alan Parson's is included; I certainly wouldn't have included him. The inclusion of Queen is justified though, in my opinion; they parody prog, and we should be able to laugh about ourselves.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I'm wondering why Alan Parson's is included; I certainly wouldn't have included him. The inclusion of Queen is justified though, in my opinion; they parody prog, and we should be able to laugh about ourselves.

I must admit I totally agree with you on that one  
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Points: 3577 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2005 at 19:21
This discussion has been brought numerous times before, and I do not think that they should be here, although I think Jeff Lynne is a great songwriter and arranger.
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Points: 32995 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 21 2005 at 19:22

They parody prog???? Where so?

And Fillrod, where were you wandering to?
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Originally posted by Snow Dog Snow Dog wrote:

They parody prog???? Where so?

And Fillrod, where were you wandering to?

 

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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I'm wondering why Alan Parson's is included; I certainly wouldn't have included him. The inclusion of Queen is justified though, in my opinion; they parody prog, and we should be able to laugh about ourselves.

explain?
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par·o·dy   Audio pronunciation of "parody" ( P )  Pronunciation Key  (pr-d)
n. pl. par·o·dies

    1. A literary or artistic work that imitates the characteristic style of an author or a work for comic effect or ridicule.

Queen are overly pompous and theatralic, just for the heck of it. In that way they parody prog rock, driving it to an extreme. An excellent example is of course their famous "Bohemian Rhapsody"; the nonsensic lyrics, the lofty piano and singing style - if that is not parody, then I don't know what is. Other excellent examples are "Innuendo", "Bicycle" or "A Kind of Magic".


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^ You don't know what is...simple really.
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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

if that is not parody, then I don't know what is.


I'm gonna have to go with the latter here. Queen was just really over-the-top and pompous on their own; they weren't doing it for comedic effect or anything.
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Queen did not name two of their albums after movies by the Marx Brothers for nothing; that alone should give you a hint.


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Originally posted by BaldFriede BaldFriede wrote:

I'm wondering why Alan Parson's is included; I certainly wouldn't have included him. The inclusion of Queen is justified though, in my opinion; they parody prog, and we should be able to laugh about ourselves.


Haven't heard Tales of Mystery and Imagination then?
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ELO are not prog IMO.
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ELO is no less prog than Supertramp, IMHO.
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Points: 20598 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: August 31 2005 at 03:21

With Queen , APP , Roxy in the PA, it is hard to imagine ELO not getting someday inclusion: their first two albums were prog and they were proggish for most of the 70's even though they were very popular with the disco crowd.

10CC is also another possible inclusion.

Friede is right about Queen and parody.



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