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FragileDT 
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VIP Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1485 |
 Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:18 |
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It's not the end of the world. Just buy a CD you really want that's all. You're
complaining about streaming FULL length songs? That's fine to sample a band and that's all we need. |
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
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Arsillus
Forum Senior Member
Joined: March 26 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 7374 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:22 |
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Aw man, I love the mp3's... Good thing I downloaded all I could when I found them!
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con safo
Prog Reviewer 
Joined: March 17 2005 Status: Offline Points: 1230 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:28 |
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Yep, every time i seen an mp3 i downloaded it, so i have a quite a bit.  |
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richeym
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Joined: September 23 2004 Status: Offline Points: 148 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:31 |
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i have a lot of stuff i downloaded a year ago from here, but i've not got anything that's been added in the last year :(
i prefer the mp3s to be honest. i also think that if you're gonna stream the music now, rather than let people download, you should make a 'progarchives' radio - where people can see ALL songs available on the site on 1 page and play what they want without having to browse artist pages plus, isn't this new way gonna vastly increase the sites bandwidth...? edit: also, can you make the stream player show you how far through the song you are? Edited by richeym |
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Revan
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Joined: August 02 2005 Status: Offline Points: 540 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:31 |
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Ok man, you live in United States, am i wrong? ok, i live in the world's ass, Argentina. The only way to get rare albums is buying in the internet, and that makes it four times more expensive. So what shall i do? the answer is very simple: Download. |
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The Ryan
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Joined: June 16 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 559 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 20:43 |
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Okay mister five stars, you are right about keeping PA up, even if it means streaming/not downloading. But have you ever seen streamers that let you seek to a certain time in the song? That would solve my problem I just cried about entirely, except not being able to save. I can deal with that. As of now I'm annoyed. |
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Arnold Layne
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Joined: July 28 2005 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 324 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 21:02 |
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Is what danceage.com does legal cause if it is than we should do that exept put prog albums on it
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HELP!
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M@X
Forum & Site Admin Group 
Co-founder, Admin & Webmaster Joined: January 29 2004 Location: Canada Status: Offline Points: 4028 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 22:13 |
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The Streaming system will improve with time , thanks for your patience guys ! List of coming features:
Please post any suggestions |
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Prog On !
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Pr@gmatic
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Joined: October 04 2005 Location: Virgin Islands Status: Offline Points: 1023 |
Posted: October 04 2005 at 22:23 |
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The first suggestion would be to add some whole streaming-albums...
 Is that asking too much?... it probably is... sorry...  
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FragileDT
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VIP Member Joined: June 20 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 1485 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 01:07 |
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Yes but than surely you wouldn't be using ProgArchives as your primary downloading source I'm assuming. |
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One likes to believe
In the freedom of music But glittering prizes And endless Compromises Shatter the illusion Of integrity |
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Jim Garten
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin & Razor Guru Joined: February 02 2004 Location: South England Status: Offline Points: 14693 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:36 |
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And that's exactly why record companies don't like the practice; if we downloaded every MP3 available from this site, we'd have no reason to buy CDs for a while... no sheckels going into the already overstuffed corporate coffers, but also no sheckels into artists' pockets. That said - if you use MP3s to sample a band, then go out and shell out your hard-earned to get the CDs, MP3s can only be a good thing; record companies should see them as they are - generally, free advertising. Right - all this sitting on the fence is makin' the old bum sore: I WANT THE MP3s BACK! 
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Citanul
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Joined: June 14 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 430 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 03:50 |
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One suggestion is to actually get this thing to work properly. I decided to try it out, so I went to the Marillion page. Ten minutes later, I'm still waiting for the playlist to load. So I'm definitely not in favour of this new approach  |
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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Throgh
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Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Poland Status: Offline Points: 175 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:04 |
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Fortunetely I downloaded many, unknown for me, songs.
But I did it at work, where we have unlimited transfer and fast link, but the paradise is ending  At home dial up change place of job and there is no mp3 in PA - I'm very disappointed F*$#&! *&%$# @#$! K&#%A! |
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don't worry
be happy |
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edible_buddha
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Joined: September 16 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 195 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:20 |
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I agree... it dosent work properly as it is... also many ppl including myself that uses thiis site rely on dialup... using dialup to stream means that the down load speed is not able to allow you to play the song as it... You listen to a 20 second segment after about a 30-60 second download, and then the sequence begins again... Most of the prog bands i like (as well as the kraut rock) are from the more mainstream arena (u know... Pink floyd, Hawkwind, Yes, et al) and i want to hear what the more obscure bands sound like. I do not have the money to get broadband, or to buy albums 'blind' solely upon the introductory explanation of the bands music, and the reviews on the albums themselves (different ppl have different opinions). Because of this, i would like to listen to some music, even if it only one song, so that i can decide whether to part with my hard earned money to get such a treasure. These mp3s have already possessed me to have bands like can and gentle giant in my cd collection, something that would not have happened otherwise. Sure the improvements will make it a bit better for some ppl to listen to the music (see above... what IS going to happen to us dial up ppl), but its not the same, and it appears to be due to corproate greed. Besides, I thought this site was meant to promote progressive music and the artists that perform them, NOT the record companies that have made it quite clear that the short term 'buck' is more important than the music they produce. Also, with their behaviour with charging some ppl over having recorded music, why give them respect... Of course if the artist protests, then fair enough. But all of the complaints that I have heard (except the famous one where mettallica sued napster) have been due to companies... I want progarchives to continue, as it has brought greater attention to the music, but how do i know what i am buying. Not
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Lindsay Lohan
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Joined: May 25 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:27 |
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Although a bit more work is needed there is not exactly hard to get hold of these files as mp 3 files...
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Citanul
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Joined: June 14 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 430 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:34 |
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How exactly? I've done searches for prog mp3s, and they're not easy to come by. |
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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S Lang
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 01 2005 Location: Australia Status: Offline Points: 441 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 04:59 |
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A few points to add. Firstly, many of the old MP3s were of a questionable choice anyway. Some of the tunes selected were not of the best representation of the artist(s). Guess what? I downloaded a handful to examine in my spare time, only about five remain UNDELETED!!! - not because of the artists, but for the choice in the sample. Secondly, where I live in country Australia, there are no record stores carry more prog than the Spice Girls! And, I AIN'T GOING TO BUY ANOTHER ALBUM ON RECOMMENDATION, EVER, OVER MAIL ORDER - unless I had a chance to hear it first! I bought hundreds in the past, many were disappointing. My Internet connection speed of 19200 bps (on a good day!) taking about over an hour to download one average lenght tune. Surely, it's not a bonanza for me!!!!! - but affords to have an idea at least of the style. Which brings me to: Thirdly, Streaming is great as long as one has a connection speed allowing multiple listening without interruptions (provided your PC can replicate the sound better than a pocket radio!!!). Most prog tunes benefit from careful and repeated attention, music interrupted every few seconds will surely not be of much interest. Fourthly, record companies should rub their hands over the free exposure provided by the odd tune and I'd be surprised that they would object to that. Indeed I assume that they may have someone to examine trends and prepare releases according to public opinion, of which the Archives is a great vehicle. Lastly, with MP3s gone and Streaming is a privilege of a select few, the Archives have just lost an important advantage in promoting lesser known performers. Edited by S Lang |
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Lindsay Lohan
Forum Senior Member
Joined: May 25 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:00 |
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I meant gettin hold of these files wich are now streamed and then coverting them to mp3 |
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Citanul
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Joined: June 14 2005 Location: South Africa Status: Offline Points: 430 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:13 |
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Two problems: First, I don't know how to do that. Second, I can't stream the files (I'm still waiting for the Marillion playlist to load after an hour and a half). |
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Be or be not. There is no question. - Yoda, Prince of Denmark
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Lindsay Lohan
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Joined: May 25 2005 Location: Norway Status: Offline Points: 3254 |
Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:21 |
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Ah well that might be a flash problem..but basically any sound that comes out of your speakers can be recorded and saved on your computer |
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