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TheProgtologist ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 23 2005 Location: Baltimore,Md US Status: Offline Points: 27802 |
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I figured you would step up to the plate and volunteer to add them SS.
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Shwang_Shwinga ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 22 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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I will step up and do just that! I have marked your inbox with the detailed request to allow me to addition them. Words cannot describe how happy I am at this moment. But smileys can ![]() ![]() ![]() -SS |
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Easy Livin ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: February 21 2004 Location: Scotland Status: Offline Points: 15585 |
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After consideration by the Admin team, and reference to M@x, C&C have been approved for addition.
Who wants to do the addition then?
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21817 |
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I sympathize with this new genre, I just don't think that Coheed and Cambria are a very good representation of it. The award goes to ... Three! They not only have definite prog elements in a few songs - in fact their essence lies in these prog elements, and *that* is what makes them prog. |
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Shwang_Shwinga ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 22 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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Can you be a mod or something? You argue this Coheed thing a lot better than I do...maybe you should be the rep for this Co&Ca addition here. I concur with you so much it hurts. Or so much that you get a gold star ![]() |
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heyitsthatguy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
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StyLaZyn ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: November 22 2005 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 4079 |
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There was a post made earlier that I'd like to refresh. There are some bands already in place here which are questionably Progressive. I see C&C exceeding them in Progness.
I do feel strongly that C&C are deserving a new genre called New Prog, or as I like to call it on Last.FM, Nu-Prog. I know Mike R. doesn't particularly care for the latter naming, and I respect his opinion. Regardless, there truly is a decent set of newer bands that while not fitting into Prog Metal or Art Rock, or the like, have definite Prog elements and deserve a nod from the Prog community because they write material that does not hit mainstream rock typically.
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Shwang_Shwinga ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 22 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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Your ear for prog must be very poor. |
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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SDome other member just said the "In keeping Secrets" is the proggiest album this band has released.... If that's true, I wonder how the LEAST prog album would be... Weezer? Fab Four? That album has TWO songs where it sounds KIND of prog.... nothing else...
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Angelo ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin Joined: May 07 2006 Location: Italy Status: Offline Points: 13244 |
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Rush did 2112, which is 2113-1. Does that make In Keeping Secrets progressive? ![]() |
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Equality 7-2521 ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: August 11 2005 Location: Philly Status: Offline Points: 15784 |
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^ I was pro-inclusion before, but now I think I'm against it. There's prog influences there to me, but not enough even for PR. Anyway Mike, the title track and "2113" from In Keeping Secrets definitely have the most prog inclinations. Give special attention to them.
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"One had to be a Newton to notice that the moon is falling, when everyone sees that it doesn't fall. "
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21817 |
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^ no problem ... I'll listen to Keeping Secrets again, it's been a while since I last listened to it.
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heyitsthatguy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
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All this makes me really want to get 3's new album ![]() back to Coheed, again, if you want proof of their "progressiveness" (or in their case prog-relatedness), Keeping Secrets is probably a better choice than their other 2 albums in terms of their candidacy. At this point I'm not advocating for either side of the argument, just presenting what I think would be more appropriate material to discuss for their inclusion (or against) than the majority of people seem to think (IV was in actuality a disappointing album for me) |
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mystic fred ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
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...so it goes on....
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The T ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: October 16 2006 Location: FL, USA Status: Offline Points: 17493 |
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Come on! Rick Wakeman said it himself, Muse is 21st Century's prog (or semi-prog)... Hear the Rachmaninov-like chords, the multi-layered textures, the vocal harmonies, Muse (specially ABSOLUTION) is 190 times proggier than emo-MTV-teen band Co and Ca.... Muse's last album is kind of poppy, I have to say, but the previous release was nothing short of a masterpiece...
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Shwang_Shwinga ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() Joined: March 22 2007 Location: United States Status: Offline Points: 102 |
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I don't see why they wouldn't be prog-related. If MUSE made it, Co&Ca deserve it too.
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21817 |
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I guess not ... but the ball is in the court of the admin team, since the Art Rock team will probably reject them (don't know if they've already made a decision) and the only remaining choice is prog-related.
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mystic fred ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: March 13 2006 Location: Londinium Status: Offline Points: 4252 |
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this discussion has been running for nine months - are they being added?? |
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MikeEnRegalia ![]() Special Collaborator ![]() ![]() Honorary Collaborator Joined: April 22 2005 Location: Sweden Status: Offline Points: 21817 |
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^
1. It's not a matter of "despise or love" for me ... I can like both bands and still say that one is prog and the other isn't (or is prog-related). 2. Three are using many advanced rhythmic concepts on their new album ... I haven't listened in great detail to Wake Pig or Keeping Secrets, but I listened to Good Apollo and found no "irregular" time signatures. I know that prog isn't all about time signatures, but it's a part of the equation. |
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heyitsthatguy ![]() Forum Senior Member ![]() ![]() Joined: April 17 2006 Location: Washington Hgts Status: Offline Points: 10094 |
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I meant basic soundwise 3 uses similar musical mannerisms to Coheed's In Keeping Secrets album, including style of pinch harmonics, extensive use of 3/4 or 6/8 time, as well as the vocals. I'm not saying they're identical, I just find it funny how some people can love one and despise the other when they're so similar (not levying any accusations BTW) I think I'll make a 3 thread now, unless there's already been one |
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