Coheed And Cambria: The real reasons !!!

Shwang_Shwinga wrote: Easy Livin wrote: After consideration by the Admin team, and reference to M@x, C&C have been approved for addition.   Who wants to do the addition then? I will step up and do just that! I have marked your inbox with the detailed request to allow me to addition them. Words cannot describe how happy I am at this moment. But smileys can -SS

After consideration by the Admin team, and reference to M@x, C&C have been approved for addition.

StyLaZyn wrote: The T wrote: SDome other member just said the "In keeping Secrets" is the proggiest album this band has released.... If that's true, I wonder how the LEAST prog album would be... Weezer? Fab Four? That album has TWO songs where it sounds KIND of prog.... nothing else...   There was a post made earlier that I'd like to refresh. There are some bands already in place here which are questionably Progressive. I see C&C exceeding them in Progness.   I do feel strongly that C&C are deserving a new genre called New Prog, or as I like to call it on Last.FM, Nu-Prog. I know Mike R. doesn't particularly care for the latter naming, and I respect his opinion. Regardless, there truly is a decent set of newer bands that while not fitting into Prog Metal or Art Rock, or the like, have definite Prog elements and deserve a nod from the Prog community because they write material that does not hit mainstream rock typically.

Can you be a mod or something? You argue this Coheed thing a lot better than I do...maybe you should be the rep for this Co&Ca addition here.

I concur with you so much it hurts.
Or so much that you get a gold star

The T wrote: SDome other member just said the "In keeping Secrets" is the proggiest album this band has released.... If that's true, I wonder how the LEAST prog album would be... Weezer? Fab Four? That album has TWO songs where it sounds KIND of prog.... nothing else...

SDome other member just said the "In keeping Secrets" is the proggiest album this band has released.... If that's true, I wonder how the LEAST prog album would be... Weezer? Fab Four? That album has TWO songs where it sounds KIND of prog.... nothing else...

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MikeEnRegalia wrote: ^ 1. It's not  a matter of "despise or love" for me ... I can like both bands and still say that one is prog and the other isn't (or is prog-related). 2. Three are using many advanced rhythmic concepts on their new album ... I haven't listened in great detail to Wake Pig or Keeping Secrets, but I listened to Good Apollo and found no "irregular" time signatures. I know that prog isn't all about time signatures, but it's a part of the equation.

All this makes me really want to get 3's new album Keeping Secrets and Wake Pig are more even with each other I think, though IV is behind Keeping Secrets in terms of "progressiveness". Again, not making accusations here, it just sometimes seems like some people (moreso on other forums than this one) can be absolutely vicious when it comes to one specific band (if you want proof look at the Dream Theater thread on The Comatorium, it's a total massacre). Wake Pig at parts struck me as prog-related and others as full on prog, so I guess their most recent effort is a larger determinant.

back to Coheed, again, if you want proof of their "progressiveness" (or in their case prog-relatedness), Keeping Secrets is probably a better choice than their other 2 albums in terms of their candidacy. At this point I'm not advocating for either side of the argument, just presenting what I think would be more appropriate material to discuss for their inclusion (or against) than the majority of people seem to think (IV was in actuality a disappointing album for me)

Come on! Rick Wakeman said it himself, Muse is 21st Century's prog (or semi-prog)... Hear the Rachmaninov-like chords, the multi-layered textures, the vocal harmonies, Muse (specially ABSOLUTION) is 190 times proggier than emo-MTV-teen band Co and Ca.... Muse's last album is kind of poppy, I have to say, but the previous release was nothing short of a masterpiece...

I guess not ... but the ball is in the court of the admin team, since the Art Rock team will probably reject them (don't know if they've already made a decision) and the only remaining choice is prog-related.


Edited by MikeEnRegalia - August 08 2007 at 05:02

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1. It's not  a matter of "despise or love" for me ... I can like both bands and still say that one is prog and the other isn't (or is prog-related).

2. Three are using many advanced rhythmic concepts on their new album ... I haven't listened in great detail to Wake Pig or Keeping Secrets, but I listened to Good Apollo and found no "irregular" time signatures. I know that prog isn't all about time signatures, but it's a part of the equation.