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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 02:09
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
 
Kansas?
 
One of my top 5
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:58
Originally posted by Peter Peter wrote:

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Can you say "blatant ripoff," boys and girls? Thumbs Down
 
I go with that one.
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:52
I'm a little afraid to voice my opinion on this matter. Some of what I find to be the most horrible progressive is actually rated fairly high here (3 or better). I'm afraid I might get excommunicated.




 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:11
I dunno, I guess I haven't really heard any. Like another poster said, there are some bands I consider mediocre (like Dream Theater, the Flower Kings and Spock's Beard) but I'd still rather listen to them than a lot of other music. The problem (well, not really a problem since it's a benefit in the long run) is that I normally will only check out an album if it has some kind of positive review. I don't interact with prog like I do with stuff that's on the radio where what you listen to is out of your conrol and you're subjected to whatever. If I listened to some prog radio on the internet I'm sure I'd come across some atrocious stuff.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 01:05
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Can you say "blatant ripoff," boys and girls? Thumbs Down
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 00:18
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
The topic referred to "Progressive" albums...so no need to hide.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 25 2008 at 00:04
Originally posted by Hawkwise Hawkwise wrote:

anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
 
I say the same thing about Gentle Giant



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:51
anything by Kansas  ............................................ runs away laffing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, hides behind the sofa.......... chuckling like a loon   
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:50
Originally posted by Easy Money Easy Money wrote:

I'm suprised people consider Sky to be prog rock, sounds like easy listening to me, and I don't mean cool lounge exotica type easy listening either.



Interesting viewpoint. Myself, I find SKY's first two albums to be quintessential prog, and very good to boot. What's not to like about Monkman's 'Where Opposites Attract'? Or 'Sahara', 'El Cielo', FIFO or 'Scipio' from Sky II? The production is lush and melodic, with absolutely no hard edges, so I suppose one might define that as 'easy listening', but those forst two albums are by no means 'rock classical' or 'muzak' as I've heard them described.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 23:15
 Oh yes, I forgot, Torman Maxt paid M@x good money to let us know that they are the worst prog metal you'll ever hear. And that they read CS Lewis. Most amusing.
 
I would nominate In This Life by Thinking Plague as the worst Avant-prog, and probably one of the worst albums of prog in general. Maybe their other albums are better, but this album sounds like a regular rock band that isn't allowed to play any consonant harmonies or play in 4/4, with a singer who desperately wishes she could sound like Dagmar. That is not what prog is about. That they appear to think they are the best avant-prog band in the world doesn't help either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 21:55

Like Slartibartfast says, a lot of bad 'prog' albums are bad because they aren't really progressive, but instead resulted from legitimate artists losing their way over trends or money:  Love Beach, Big Generator, Jethro Tull's Under Wraps and Robert Fripp's League of Gentlemen being some of the more glaring examples.

As far as technically 'legitimate' prog - it's a little obscure, but the FInnish band Apollo's self-titled album is one of the worst pieces of toe jam I've ever heard.  And for some reason Warner actually felt the need to reissue it a few years back so an entire new generation could be turned off on prog music.   Read the reviews - there's  no point rehashing their insights here.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:54
Originally posted by toroddfuglesteg toroddfuglesteg wrote:

Torman Maxt is a horrible bad band. Download their free debut album and do not succumb to your urge to self-harm. 


Torman Maxt is possibly the peak of crappiness.

We even dedicated about 50 pages of the Velvet Room insulted the band and their album.. what was it called? The Problem with Pain, I think.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:34
instead of bashing a whole genre why not cite specific albums, as per the thread starters request


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 20:21
'Horrifically Bad Progressive Albums' 
 
Have you tried any neo prog ?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:51
I'm suprised people consider Sky to be prog rock, sounds like easy listening to me, and I don't mean cool lounge exotica type easy listening either.

Being an old fart from way back, I can remember most of us who liked the original prog rock bands could not stand all the wannabes that came out in the mid-70s, but I'm not going to mention any names ... yet.

I have this jazz fusion record, Gregory James - 'Madagascar' (I actually own two copies) that I call the worst jazz fusion record ever. I like to play it for my friends, they usually can't take more than a few minutes.

I have a big record collection and bad music has it's own section, for instance politician Sam Ervin's talking version of Bridge Over Troubled Water or this cover band trying to do the Deep Purple version of Hush. I love listening to the kybdst try to imitate Jon Lord, he just sounds confused.

P.S. I have this religious record where this band tries to sonically potray the preacher's words with really bad avant-prog rock.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:47
 ^ OK but I'd wait an hour after eating


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:45
Originally posted by Atavachron Atavachron wrote:

said it before, I'll say it again;  there's nothing worse than bad Prog.   Radiomobel's Tramsebox is surprisingly awful, not just the music but the performance, recording, everything.


I have it and will make a point of listening at breakfast tomorrow to confirm your assertion!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:45
I wish I could remember their names, but there was a period when I was really into Dream Theater clones and all sorts of hyper standard progressive metal. Most of them sounded about the same, but there were some of the most ill-conceived riffs I've ever run into, some of the weakest song structures, and some downright painful vocals. It didn't help matters that the bands had no desire to claim their own unique sound, either.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:39
said it before, I'll say it again;  there's nothing worse than bad Prog.   Radiomobel's Tramsebox is surprisingly awful, not just the music but the performance, recording, everything.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2008 at 19:32
Well, there are some turkeys out there, sure enough, and like the previous contributor suggested, it's better to praise the great aspects of prog rather than criticise it's low points...but I was especially disappointed having shelled out some of my hard earned to buy Calling All Stations by Genesis. I think one listen was enough.

Maybe repeat listens over time will prove me wrong.
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