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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2008 at 12:31
i heard a few tracks out of curiosity: it's pretty mediocre, it sounds like a failed experiment and an attempt to sound serious.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2008 at 08:48
^^But dude needs to re-think his wardrobe. Seeing him on VH1's Rock Honors in that open chested costume with his now sagging man boobs bouncing around was quite unseemly.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2008 at 08:13
You gotta admire those guys in a way.  It can't be easy being "Kiss" at their age.  I mean, it's easy to do Prog as you get older.  No one cares that Steve Howe looks like a wrinkled old shoe as long as he can still play. Paul's solo album from last year (?) "Live To Win" is some mighty fine hard rockin' from a 57 year old guy with an artificial hip and a heart condition". 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 08 2008 at 06:29
Originally posted by The T The T wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA.
Good boy
 

As a prog metal expert, I recommend Kiss' addition. Don't ask me why. Just believe me.
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss
I'll be waiting - me and my little friend, Mr Baseball Bat   I find this highly offensive. As a baseball hater, I ask for tolerance for all sports. And, as a prog metal expert, I demand Kiss addition. Arguments? Many.
Originally posted by Gentlegiantprog Gentlegiantprog wrote:

I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement... but anyone can make one, rogue prog album...
Kiss can't.  They can. I know it. Ever.  No. Right now and among us. Be told.  I deny this false implications and demand Kiss' addition. The reasoning behind it? That I think they should be here.
Originally posted by Crimhead Crimhead wrote:

Now tells us how you really feel about it
Love 'em - great band to see live, even they don't take themselves seriously & they understand Kiss is little more than a brand name these days (which Gene Simmons is extremely astute at marketing); less of a rock gig, more a circus, all power to them   False. Live is just a facade for their real musical experiments. Prog is their second name and they have to be here. One reason: because I, a prog metal expert, demand it. However...  we see hope... Not to be recommended for inclusion here.  The world is an unfair place when Magma can be here and not Kiss. They have a brand, we have standards.  Standards which suffer when we don't add the BRAND  (Angry)...usually... Not.. alwaysBut no! Yes! No!  Yes!!NO!YES! ADD KISS! I TELL YOU! THEY ARE PROG! A FAIRY TOLD ME IN MY SLEEP! ADD THEM!!!!!!

 

 

 

 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2008 at 15:26
Hmmm, would be kinda funny in terms of site policy if Music from the Elder were to be considered a prog album though.

After all, if a band release one full prog album they shall be added *chuckles*

Hmmm, now - how do we convince Britney Spears or Paris Hilton to issue a prog CD? Or even better, that teenage chick we can blame Billy Ray Cyrus for to make one?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2008 at 15:12
Originally posted by Epignosis Epignosis wrote:

Originally posted by King By-Tor King By-Tor wrote:

Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry.


I think this was the best post I have ever read. Ever. No one can ever top this post. ClapLOL


I can only imagine.  I suggested Boston (for prog related) and nearly got my balls handed to me in a Dixie cup.  You would have thought I suggested T-Pain.  Confused
 
The difference of course is that Kiss has absolutely no business in prog-related while justifying Boston's presence in prog related is so easy that it is clear that only blind prejudice and ignorance keeps them out.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 14:10
But Kiss could be in the PA.



Well, not the American and world-wide known band, but a 70's French one that I discovered on a site a few months ago. They are described as progressive.
I'm not sure what they sound like, but if they are really progressive, I'm already thinking of the face bycomers would do if they saw a magnificent "KISS" on the PA!

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 13:48
Best post ever!Clap
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 12:28
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA.


Good boy
 
As a prog metal expert, I recommend Kiss' addition. Don't ask me why. Just believe me.

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss


I'll be waiting - me and my little friend, Mr Baseball Bat   I find this highly offensive. As a baseball hater, I ask for tolerance for all sports. And, as a prog metal expert, I demand Kiss addition. Arguments? Many.

Originally posted by Gentlegiantprog Gentlegiantprog wrote:

I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement... but anyone can make one, rogue prog album...


Kiss can't.  They can. I know it.

Ever.  No. Right now and among us.

Be told.  I deny this false implications and demand Kiss' addition. The reasoning behind it? That I think they should be here.

Originally posted by Crimhead Crimhead wrote:

Now tells us how you really feel about it


Love 'em - great band to see live, even they don't take themselves seriously & they understand Kiss is little more than a brand name these days (which Gene Simmons is extremely astute at marketing); less of a rock gig, more a circus, all power to them   False. Live is just a facade for their real musical experiments. Prog is their second name and they have to be here. One reason: because I, a prog metal expert, demand it.

However...  we see hope...
 

Not to be recommended for inclusion here.  The world is an unfair place when Magma can be here and not Kiss.


They have a brand, we have standards.  Standards which suffer when we don't add the BRAND


  (Angry)

...usually... Not.. always

But no! Yes!



No!  Yes!!



NO!YES! ADD KISS! I TELL YOU! THEY ARE PROG! A FAIRY TOLD ME IN MY SLEEP! ADD THEM!!!!!!
 

 
 
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 06:15
This is hilarious. LOL
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 03:03




Dammit Mike, you're right - how could I have been so wrong?

The scales have dropped from my eyes & I understand now!

A true Damascene moment...

Forget Genesis, to hell with Gentle Giant... Kiss are the true pioneers of genuine progressive rock!!

All hail the god of thunder!

'Babe' is probably the greatest short, under-rated prog rock ballard of all time.

Truly - I am humbled

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 02:51
Despite Jim's arguments I think that they should be added because of their progressive nature towards live performances and their influence on the rock, power rock, power metal and disco scenes in the mid and late 70s. If not for them we would not have a lot of music. Plus, the cover for Destroyer is a helluva lot better than Love Beach. Kiss may never have made a side long epic but a lot of their songs show progressive tenancies, just listen to the speed change in "Shout It Out Loud" or the troubadouristic qualities of "Detroit Rock City".

Be more open minded Jim. This is a progressive rock archive, not nazi Germany.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 05 2008 at 02:43
Originally posted by NotAProghead NotAProghead wrote:

I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA.


Good boy

Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss


I'll be waiting - me and my little friend, Mr Baseball Bat

Originally posted by Gentlegiantprog Gentlegiantprog wrote:

I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement... but anyone can make one, rogue prog album...


Kiss can't.

Ever.

Be told.

Originally posted by Crimhead Crimhead wrote:

Now tells us how you really feel about it


Love 'em - great band to see live, even they don't take themselves seriously & they understand Kiss is little more than a brand name these days (which Gene Simmons is extremely astute at marketing); less of a rock gig, more a circus, all power to them

However...


Not to be recommended for inclusion here.


They have a brand, we have standards.




...usually...

But no!



No!



NO!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 13:33
I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement but to me they seem more like Zepplin and Sabbath than Yes or Genesis, but anyone can make one, rogue prog album... I'm tempted to listen to it, but I also don't want to pay for it if its just a kiss album with some keyboards and one track thats longer than five minutes.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 12:30
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry.


Thanks. Now tells us how you really feel about it.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 11:36
Originally posted by peskypesky peskypesky wrote:

Hmm....Boston for prog-related doesn't seem like such an outrageous suggestion. I mean, I can hear some proggy influence in the first album. But I want to keep my balls, so f--- Boston!

Boston has two prog related moments. Foreplay/Longtime, the 8-minute song from the debut with extended soloing and instrumental sections and the 4-part, 12-minute Walk On Suite from Walk On. Other than that, they don't have a prog bone in them. But this isn't the Boston discussion, so Ill shut my trap Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 11:30
This thread made me to take "Music from The Elder" from the shelf and listen to it. Not a bad album at all. 
Though I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA.
Who are you and who am I to say we know the reason why... (D. Gilmour)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 11:09
[/QUOTE]Originally posted by King By-Tor

I can only imagine.  I suggested Boston (for prog related) and nearly got my balls handed to me in a Dixie cup.  You would have thought I suggested T-Pain.  Confused
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Hmm....Boston for prog-related doesn't seem like such an outrageous suggestion. I mean, I can hear some proggy influence in the first album. But I want to keep my balls, so f--- Boston!


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 08:11
Originally posted by Jim Garten Jim Garten wrote:

The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry.


Well, that reminds me a lot of the infamous "offer you can't refuse" LOL...

Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss. On the other hand, I'm sure not even Micky would dare do anything of the sort. especially after Jim's masterful pronouncementWinkLOL.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 04 2008 at 07:21
I think i still have a "Kiss sucks" t-shirt somewhere from around 1978.Probably with my "Disco sucks" t-shirt from 1976.LOL   Ahhh highschool....actually it sucked too.LOL

Edited by sinkadotentree - December 04 2008 at 07:22
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