Music from The Elder

Best post ever!

Epignosis wrote: King By-Tor wrote: Jim Garten wrote: The first person to suggest Kiss be added to the archives will be hung, drawn, quartered, burned, hanged again, then fed to the dogs until they're really sorry. I think this was the best post I have ever read. Ever. No one can ever top this post. I can only imagine.  I suggested Boston (for prog related) and nearly got my balls handed to me in a Dixie cup.  You would have thought I suggested T-Pain.

The T wrote: Jim Garten wrote: NotAProghead wrote: I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA. Good boy   As a prog metal expert, I recommend Kiss' addition. Don't ask me why. Just believe me. Raff wrote: Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss I'll be waiting - me and my little friend, Mr Baseball Bat   I find this highly offensive. As a baseball hater, I ask for tolerance for all sports. And, as a prog metal expert, I demand Kiss addition. Arguments? Many. Gentlegiantprog wrote: I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement... but anyone can make one, rogue prog album... Kiss can't.  They can. I know it. Ever.  No. Right now and among us. Be told.  I deny this false implications and demand Kiss' addition. The reasoning behind it? That I think they should be here. Crimhead wrote: Now tells us how you really feel about it Love 'em - great band to see live, even they don't take themselves seriously & they understand Kiss is little more than a brand name these days (which Gene Simmons is extremely astute at marketing); less of a rock gig, more a circus, all power to them   False. Live is just a facade for their real musical experiments. Prog is their second name and they have to be here. One reason: because I, a prog metal expert, demand it. However...  we see hope... Not to be recommended for inclusion here.  The world is an unfair place when Magma can be here and not Kiss. They have a brand, we have standards.  Standards which suffer when we don't add the BRAND  ()...usually... Not.. alwaysBut no! Yes! No!  Yes!!NO!YES! ADD KISS! I TELL YOU! THEY ARE PROG! A FAIRY TOLD ME IN MY SLEEP! ADD THEM!!!!!!

T - I bow to your brilliance

Is it right by the way that John Petrucci's bedroom wall is covered in Paul Stanley posters? It would explain a lot

^^But dude needs to re-think his wardrobe. Seeing him on VH1's Rock Honors in that open chested costume with his now sagging man boobs bouncing around was quite unseemly.

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Just to disrupt the riot erupting, did you know that the actual track listing on the album was changed to accommodate the LP. It was originally planned as the soundtrack to a never made film. And with the changes, the "concept" gets lost. If I remember correctly, Wikipedia has the story, or some links to verify.
But one prog album out of many maketh not a prog band. Unless you're Italian.

rushfan4 wrote: debrewguy wrote: Just to disrupt the riot erupting, did you know that the actual track listing on the album was changed to accommodate the LP. It was originally planned as the soundtrack to a never made film. And with the changes, the "concept" gets lost. If I remember correctly, Wikipedia has the story, or some links to verify. But one prog album out of many maketh not a prog band. Unless you're Italian.   It doesn't maketh a prog band, but since M@x says that in order to be the ultimate prog rock resource, if a band has released at least 1 prog album then they belong on PA.  That said, I finally purchased The Elder, but I haven't listened to it yet and therefore have no personal opinion as to whether it is progressive or not.  And secondly, just because the boss says "make it so" still doesn't mean it is going to happen.

exactly....  since when will people get the silly frickin notion that addition here makes a band ....prog.. whatever the hell that means.  We evaluate music ..and albums....  and this site is an archive of prog rock... not 'prog bands. If so.... frickin 86 half the database here post 70's that are not 'known' as a prog bands.  That boat sailed years ago...  this is not just a repository of your daddies prog bands that he got high to


Edited by micky - December 08 2008 at 17:28

NotAProghead wrote: rushfan4 wrote: ...but since M@x says that in order to be the ultimate prog rock resource, if a band has released at least 1 prog album then they belong on PA.  But when you suggest such a band (artist) for inclusion lots of specialists will immediately tell you how wrong are you...

because under the current system.. teams can do what they damn well please. Damn the 'rules' to hell

in all seriousness...  each team judges as it wishes... and to your point there....there has always been the fear among some that people will react negatively and create waves of discontent.

really... look at Metaliica...  if AJfA wasn't a PM album.. what is... yet scores of people went apesh*t here.  Can't blame the teams for backing off groups like that.  The forum ..not the collaborators are the ones who associate being added... to meaning we have ordained them... *sound of thunder* PROG!!!!!!!!!!

I only speak for the teams I am on... we judge music... not groups.  If they did prog...  we add them... don't care what they did before.. or what they did later. 

I met Gene Simmons one night in 1978 or so while Maitre d' in a popular Montreal restaurant. I recognized him ASAP, he was stunned , we swore at each other in Hungarian and he offered me tickets for the show and I politely declined stating that I was a progger not a child. He laughed and said,"hey, kids need to start somewhere and we are it" . The man is a business tycoon, an expert showman (what a tongue!) and does not consider himself to be a musician but an entertainer. Love him or hate him, he is no fool. A bit like Keith Emerson hahahaha  LOL

The T wrote: Jim Garten wrote: NotAProghead wrote: I'm far from suggesting Kiss to be added on PA. Good boy   As a prog metal expert, I recommend Kiss' addition. Don't ask me why. Just believe me. Raff wrote: Seriously, since I've been here I've seen everyone and their dog suggested for addition, so I wouldn't be surprised if someone came up with Kiss I'll be waiting - me and my little friend, Mr Baseball Bat   I find this highly offensive. As a baseball hater, I ask for tolerance for all sports. And, as a prog metal expert, I demand Kiss addition. Arguments? Many. Gentlegiantprog wrote: I'm not famillar enough with Kiss to make a judgement... but anyone can make one, rogue prog album... Kiss can't.  They can. I know it. Ever.  No. Right now and among us. Be told.  I deny this false implications and demand Kiss' addition. The reasoning behind it? That I think they should be here. Crimhead wrote: Now tells us how you really feel about it Love 'em - great band to see live, even they don't take themselves seriously & they understand Kiss is little more than a brand name these days (which Gene Simmons is extremely astute at marketing); less of a rock gig, more a circus, all power to them   False. Live is just a facade for their real musical experiments. Prog is their second name and they have to be here. One reason: because I, a prog metal expert, demand it. However...  we see hope...   Not to be recommended for inclusion here.  The world is an unfair place when Magma can be here and not Kiss. They have a brand, we have standards.  Standards which suffer when we don't add the BRAND   () ...usually... Not.. always But no! Yes! No!  Yes!! NO!YES! ADD KISS! I TELL YOU! THEY ARE PROG! A FAIRY TOLD ME IN MY SLEEP! ADD THEM!!!!!!

b_olariu wrote: I own Music from the elder since 1993, and belive me I never considered a prog album, not even related. If because this album has some keys added over some hard rock chops doesn't mean is prog, and by the way is the worst Kiss album ever.