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I also wish to thanlk those who write reviews....I simply don't have the patience and I would probably be too positive on my favorite bands and not objective enough.
I have never given 1 star to anything and only a handful of 5 stars...I think there are probably too many 5 star rated albums.
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Funny when I saw this thread the first think I thought of was OYE---as Yes is one of my fav bands it still astounds me how I could not get into this at all--So yup---Open your eyes is a disaster. ..proving Turing over Yes to sherwood is and was a terrible idea....(at least Heaven and Earth was a 2 starTongue)
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Count me in as another Shaggs fan. Thumbs Up
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Some people have convinced themselves that that album is good ^Ermm 

I don't know anyone who has genuinely convinced themselves that it is good per se, unless you mean so bad it's good, but there are people like me who appreciate it very much.  Like I said about it, one of my favourite albums (not in PA) is famed for its incompetence/ badness, and I love it.  There are many People like Ed Wood who also think he is a very poor filmmaker, but I love his films.  If it wasn't thought to be so delightfully incompetent then I don't think many would appreciate it.  The girls had only just started to learn their instruments apparently (some might say it really shines or drowns in the lyrics). ;)

Here are a few quotes about The Shaggs.

  • The Shaggs. Better than the Beatles - even today." - Frank Zappa
  • "The Shaggs are like castaways on their own musical island." - Bonnie Raitt
  • "... For me, one song about your real life is worth ten "professional" songs. The Shaggs convince me that they're the real thing when they sing." - Jonathan Richman
  • "They bring my mind to a complete halt." - Carla Bley
  • "It's the sincere badness, or primitivist naivete, that makes The Shagg's Philosophy of the World so very good." - Logan
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Nightwish Human || Nature


ouch!  what is that album guilty of besides thinking that their audience wanted to listen to a symphony
Or are you not a Nightwish fan to begin with?  I quite like their last 5 albums or so

I love Tarja Nightwish. I find it strange those albums are rated poorer than the music they did afterwards. The albums with Tarja were unique, they basically created symphonic metal along with Therion. 

The new album frustrated me to the point that I deleted it from my laptop eventually. I gave it so many chances because I read some very positive opinions, even thought I might be missing something. It's so bland, cheesy, lacks any kind of oomph, the songs with the new male singer are so boring. The second CD is godawful Pirates of the Caribbean music, made me cringe. I wasted too much time on the album, time i could have used to listen to something I actually enjoy.  
 

fair enough...I think you could put together a decent convincing 1 star review based on what you just wrote.  Especially the "Pirates of the Caribbean" reference  LOL
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I have given one star ratings to a number of albums which reflect my own tastes and opinions (as all ratings do). One of them is Steve Howe's first collaboration with Paul Sutin, Seraphim, which is a little more harsh than most (their second collaboration, not highly rated here either, is one I find enjoyable). Another is Zappa's We're Only In It For the Money, which is the exact opposite of the general view (and yet I find Zappa among the most admirable of artists). I stand by both assessments. I reserve this rating for albums that have almost no redeeming factors to my ears; most are by artists that should know better. I will give almost anything a fair listen all the way through, but there have been recordings I simply could not stand, many of which are not Prog. For Prog artists, I tend to wait to hear something good. The ones that disappoint me the most get the dreaded one star.
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Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:


Dedicated to Chaos is just an abomination, but every album from Hear in the Now Frontier is just an endless showcase of stinker after stinker and terrible identity crisis 

I like Tribe (2003 if I remember right). the only later day album with Tate I enjoy.

Their last three albums with Todd La Torre are really good. 

Geoff Tate did an album with some Italian musicians last year, the band is called Sweet Oblivion. Geoff can still sing, a very good album and a pleasant surprise. 
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I amazed by the people who rate and write reviews and have the ability to stay neutral.  There are some albums that I detest but I can see how someone else might like it.  So rating something a star myself would be difficult as I would be conscious of not wanting to scare someone off unfairly from listening to it.

As someone already mentioned, I would have less of a problem warning someone off because of a really poor sound recording quality.

So I admire you guys who write the reviews, good job overall!
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Originally posted by kenethlevine kenethlevine wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Nightwish Human || Nature


ouch!  what is that album guilty of besides thinking that their audience wanted to listen to a symphony
Or are you not a Nightwish fan to begin with?  I quite like their last 5 albums or so

I love Tarja Nightwish. I find it strange those albums are rated on PA poorer than the music they did afterwards. The albums with Tarja were unique, they basically created symphonic metal along with Therion. 

The new album frustrated me to the point that I deleted it from my laptop eventually. I gave it so many chances because I read some very positive opinions, even thought I might be missing something. It's so bland, cheesy, lacks any kind of oomph, the songs with the new male singer are so boring. The second CD is godawful Pirates of the Caribbean music, made me cringe. I wasted too much time on the album, time i could have used to listen to something I actually enjoy.  
 




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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by dougmcauliffe dougmcauliffe wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by A Crimson Mellotron A Crimson Mellotron wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I have rated 4 albums with 1 star. 
I will also change my Yes - Open Your Eyes rating from 2 stars, to 1 star. 

Which ones, Cristi?

Dream Theater - The Astonishing
Yes - Open Your Eyes
Iron Maiden - Virtual XI
Gentle Giant - The Missing Piece
Nightwish Human || Nature

Queensryche have a couple of albums deserve even less. EmbarrassedLOL


I don't think The Missing Piece is a bad album tbh, agree on Queensryche though

I know many people like The Missing Piece.

Which Queensryche do you have in mind? For me it's Dedicated to Chaos and their cover album Take Cover. 

Dedicated to Chaos is just an abomination, but every album from Hear in the Now Frontier is just an endless showcase of stinker after stinker and terrible identity crisis 
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Originally posted by SteveG SteveG wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Am I the only person here who doesn't like the idea of numeric (star) ratings? I personally don't give a s*** if someone's given an album 1 or 2 stars. What matters for me, is what's in the review. Vote-only votes are worthless IMO.
How about grades of A,B,C and D? ;)
Ah, but a lot of stars is an attention getter.
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Some people have convinced themselves that that album is good ^Ermm 
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OMG...I have never heard such a thing ! I think I made it to 0:55 before stopping it. They should be using this in Gitmo !
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Am I the only person here who doesn't like the idea of numeric (star) ratings? I personally don't give a s*** if someone's given an album 1 or 2 stars. What matters for me, is what's in the review. Vote-only votes are worthless IMO.
How about grades of A,B,C and D? ;)
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

Am I the only person here who doesn't like the idea of numeric (star) ratings? I personally don't give a s*** if someone's given an album 1 or 2 stars. What matters for me, is what's in the review. Vote-only votes are worthless IMO.

absolutely..it's the review after all.  Even a 1 star review might elicit interest from somebody if it points out "flaws" that the reader might regard as strengths.  A rating conveys nothing of substance by definition
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Nightwish Human || Nature


ouch!  what is that album guilty of besides thinking that their audience wanted to listen to a symphony
Or are you not a Nightwish fan to begin with?  I quite like their last 5 albums or so
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I believe that it's ludicrous to give one star to a remarkably well liked album. The reviewer should take an honest look at his own tastes if he or she is giving that album only one star.


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Am I the only person here who doesn't like the idea of numeric (star) ratings? I personally don't give a s*** if someone's given an album 1 or 2 stars. What matters for me, is what's in the review. Vote-only votes are worthless IMO.
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Logan, the Tool album is one that I probably wouldn't review today as I don't think it's at all in my wheelhouse.   But most of the 1 star reviews I did are albums in a style in which I like other albums but just don't like those.  Shylock and, to a lesser degree, Qatermass, would fall in that group.  As I said, a few are bands I like a lot, like Amazing Blondel, Mike Oldfield, Eloy, Flaming Bess, Renaissance, Jade Warrior and Novalis, so there are 4 star and sometimes 5 star albums by those groups that contrast with the 1 star.
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Originally posted by rushfan4 rushfan4 wrote:

As always these are highly personal opinions and this is one that came with PA recommendations, but this is clearly the worst "album" I have ever heard.

You were smokin' the wrong bud brother! This music is strictly for the couch lock bunch.  I mean...how else could you sit through it for 74 min. ? LOL
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