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    Posted: August 19 2021 at 08:32
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People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)

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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)

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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)


You better put a smiley with that, because it sounds quite arrogant, pretentious and pedantic.

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Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?
Well, an abridged version of this discussion would have been cool... Tongue
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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)


You better put a smiley with that, because it sounds quite arrogant, pretentious and pedantic.

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Originally posted by miamiscot miamiscot wrote:

People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)
I'd have Absolute Universe up there with some of the very best progressive rock I've listened to and I'm not a particularly great Transatlantic fan. Again I just don't get the criticism of the new album. To each his own I guess.
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People who don't like Transatlantic are obviously missing out and we should feel sorry for them. Maybe there's a concerto for bassoon and glockenspiel out there more up their alley - I'll stick with Progressive Rock. (With the emphasis on Rock. Not Metal or Jazz or fake Classical.)
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Originally posted by geekfreak geekfreak wrote:

I just don’t get all the negative vibes about the new albums. The posts of it sounds different from the others, it is a stupendous slab of PROGRESSIVE ROCK !!!
I've now read all the reviews in the PA reviews section. I get a little miffed when people complain about the perceived lack of originality in some of the songs. Do people remember the first one. It featured a 20 minute cover song of a Procol Harum song. 
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I listened to Neal Morse's demo version of The Absolute Universe (the Big One) and I've noticed something funny that was left intact in the final version. xD At the very end of the song "Bully" (2:07 timestamp) deep in the background, you can hear a voice saying "let's put some sound effects in here". xD
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I really do see value in both. They have different vibes.
Forevermore is very much like The Flower Kings' Islands and The Breath Of Life is similar to Neal's Sola Gratia.
And I preferred Sola Gratia so I am leaning into the shorter version lately.
But then I miss "Bully" and "Rainbow Sky." And I'm back into Forevermore.
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^^^ haha yeah I didn't want to say anything cause there could be some underlying cause to that, but man that got annoying after about 3 seconds.

As for the actual topic, I made my thoughts pretty clear in my review how I felt about the different versions
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?

That guy needs to take some medicine or go use that toilet, can't handle all that moving back and forth. There are tons of reviews out now.

Having spun the album several times, it has really shown me a return to what I think of with Transatlantic which is SMPTe and The Whirlwind. I have Forevermore (Extended Version) and am really happy with the outcome.
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I have the Forevermore version and I love it. This and The Whirlwind I would say are my favourite TA albums, though parts of the first album are amazing too. All Of The Above is one of my favourite prog epics, and I love We All Need Some Light. I find the second album a bit too heavy in places for my tastes, but the title track is beautiful. Kaleidoscope was a bit disappointing after The Whirlwind but The Absolute Universe is a definite return to form.

I would agree with many of the comments above, Mike's singing on Looking For The Light is his best ever, Rainbow Sky is a brilliant song, and Pete's bass on The Darkness In The Light is amazing. I also like the songs that Roine sings, many of them have a strong Flower Kings vibe to them.

I've listened to the abridged version once (on Spotify) and I wasn't particularly impressed. Maybe I need to listen again.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:


Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?



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Have you seen this video? Do you agree with what they're saying?
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I just don’t get all the negative vibes about the new albums. The posts of it sounds different from the others, it is a stupendous slab of PROGRESSIVE ROCK !!!
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Originally posted by suitkees suitkees wrote:

Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

LOL You definitely have the "darn right" to like that album! LOL

I read DPRP since its beginnings, 25 years ago, and I like it that they do those round table reviews - when you know a bit the preferences of the reviewers it is often very informative and instructive.

@Cristi: You don't have to pay attention to him, but you might be interested in what he writes. Jerry van Kooten is a reviewer at DPRP since a very long time (maybe since its start, but I might be mistaken about that. I met him a couple of times during different Pallas concerts, somewhere in the previous century - a sympathetic guy, which of course does not mean that I always agree with what he writes, but this time I do. The four other reviewers are very positive about the Transatlantic album...

I read Jerry’s review, and it is extremely well written. I rather like the album, actually, probably their best effort since the amazing debut, but an honest review is always far superior to a sycophantic one.
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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

LOL You definitely have the "darn right" to like that album! LOL

I read DPRP since its beginnings, 25 years ago, and I like it that they do those round table reviews - when you know a bit the preferences of the reviewers it is often very informative and instructive.

@Cristi: You don't have to pay attention to him, but you might be interested in what he writes. Jerry van Kooten is a reviewer at DPRP since a very long time (maybe since its start, but I might be mistaken about that. I met him a couple of times during different Pallas concerts, somewhere in the previous century - a sympathetic guy, which of course does not mean that I always agree with what he writes, but this time I do. The four other reviewers are very positive about the Transatlantic album...


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Originally posted by Hrychu Hrychu wrote:

I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

who's Jerry van Kooten and why should I pay attention to him?
I haven't listened to the new album yet, but I will try soon enough. EmbarrassedTongue


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I respect Jerry van Kooten's opinion.
Quote Heartless, forced, lazy writing, and the singing is just not good.

HOWEVER, I HAVE THE GOD DARN RIGHTS TO THROW IT TO THE GARBAGE CAN AND ENJOY THE ALBUM. B)

It's funny how different people see the same album in completely different ways. xD

Edited by Hrychu - February 26 2021 at 05:48
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