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Cinema Show, one of the best by anyone IMHO
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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

WOW I did not expect Cinema Show to eclipse 9/8 here!

I had a feeling it might. A lot of people aren't too impressed without using a proper synthesizer. Regardless of the limited tones, I think Apocolypse in 9/8 is both better composed and far more impressive considering Tony plays as though he's not in an odd time signature for most of the solo and still lands on his feet every time.

Plus you can explain the 9/8 and actually count it out to someone that doesn't know what that is.

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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

WOW I did not expect Cinema Show to eclipse 9/8 here!

I had a feeling it might. A lot of people aren't too impressed without using a proper synthesizer. Regardless of the limited tones, I think Apocolypse in 9/8 is both better composed and far more impressive considering Tony plays as though he's not in an odd time signature for most of the solo and still lands on his feet every time.

Plus you can explain the 9/8 and actually count it out to someone that doesn't know what that is.

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Originally posted by Frenetic Zetetic Frenetic Zetetic wrote:

WOW I did not expect Cinema Show to eclipse 9/8 here!

I had a feeling it might. A lot of people aren't too impressed without using a proper synthesizer. Regardless of the limited tones, I think Apocolypse in 9/8 is both better composed and far more impressive considering Tony plays as though he's not in an odd time signature for most of the solo and still lands on his feet every time.
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WOW I did not expect Cinema Show to eclipse 9/8 here!

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Originally posted by AFlowerKingCrimson AFlowerKingCrimson wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I wonder if In The Cage should have been included for a trio?

anyway Apocalypse 9/8 certainly , so imitated by neo prog bands it's ridiculous!

Other good ones are firth of fifth (piano intro especially), can utility and the coastliners, colony of slippermen and unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth(the in that quiet earth section).

Anyway, I voted for cinema show.

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Originally posted by Sacro_Porgo Sacro_Porgo wrote:

Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

With Tony Banks it's more about the "what" he's doing rather than the "how" he's doing it and since soloing is more about the "how" I don't really see Tony Banks as a soloist in the same breath as Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. However both keyboard sections of Supper's Ready and Cinema Show showcase Tony Banks' brilliance as a keyboardist and of the two I prefer Supper's Ready.

Care to elaborate on what you mean by the "what" and the "how?" I'm not sure I really understand. Sure he's not super flashy like Emerson or Wakeman, but he did a lot of keyboard solos and I think most of them are very effective.
Not even sure what I was saying it when I wrote it. It's that part of music that's indefinable. When I listen to Tony Banks playing a keyboard solo I don't hear it as a solo. I hear it as a piece of music that's integral to the song as a whole. When Steve Hackett plays a solo everything appears to stop and we can even forget for a moment what piece of music he's playing. When Tony Banks plays piano chords he immediately draws you into the song. His notes are the song. To take an extreme opposite, when Jordan Rudess plays the keys everything he appears to do is soloing around the other members of the band. 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I wonder if In The Cage should have been included for a trio?

anyway Apocalypse 9/8 certainly , so imitated by neo prog bands it's ridiculous!

Other good ones are firth of fifth (piano intro especially), can utility and the coastliners, colony of slippermen and unquiet slumbers for the sleepers in that quiet earth(the in that quiet earth section).

Anyway, I voted for cinema show.


Edited by AFlowerKingCrimson - August 27 2021 at 12:17
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Cinema Show is the most well thought out solo by anyone---it goes thru many emotions and dramatic sections.
I think it is amazing.
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I wonder if In The Cage should have been included for a trio?

anyway Apocalypse 9/8 certainly , so imitated by neo prog bands it's ridiculous!
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Cinema Show is more inventive and tuneful for me, so that.
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Originally posted by progaardvark progaardvark wrote:

Tough one to choose. I'll go with Cinema Show, but by a very narrow margin.
 
This. They are both great, but I had to listen to them both a few moments ago to get a direct comparison. Today it's Cinema Show, but some other day it might be Supper's Ready.
 
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the cinema show
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The Cinema Show, too.
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Wasn't his first ever solo in 'Stagnation'?  If you read about it, he was a reluctant solo-ist so really these two pieces are remarkable and show a progession that possibly peaks on Abacab (the album).
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Apocalypse 9/8 is a better section/piece, but the Cinema Show solo is Banks' finest hour with Genesis IMHO.

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Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

With Tony Banks it's more about the "what" he's doing rather than the "how" he's doing it and since soloing is more about the "how" I don't really see Tony Banks as a soloist in the same breath as Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. However both keyboard sections of Supper's Ready and Cinema Show showcase Tony Banks' brilliance as a keyboardist and of the two I prefer Supper's Ready.

Care to elaborate on what you mean by the "what" and the "how?" I'm not sure I really understand. Sure he's not super flashy like Emerson or Wakeman, but he did a lot of keyboard solos and I think most of them are very effective.
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With Tony Banks it's more about the "what" he's doing rather than the "how" he's doing it and since soloing is more about the "how" I don't really see Tony Banks as a soloist in the same breath as Rick Wakeman or Keith Emerson. However both keyboard sections of Supper's Ready and Cinema Show showcase Tony Banks' brilliance as a keyboardist and of the two I prefer Supper's Ready.
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Well, there's no synthesizer on Supper's Ready(Tony was pretty late in buying one)but it's still a very good keyboard solo. I'll have to think about this one.
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