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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

IMHO, tech death is unsurpassed in not ONLY speed but in myriad attributes.

That's fine. Speed doesn't impress me like it did when I was a teen. In fact, overreliance on speed can make things quite boring.

'Sides, no tech/death metal drummer is better than this guy. Wink

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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

It would be helpful if the OP would give feedback to the examples given. Then we could refine our top drumming performances.

Also, someone mentioned Billy Cobham. Don't recall anything he did in the last decade. Is he as good as Art Blakey?


Reading some reviews of his albums since 2010, he's lost it and taken the great fall into mediocrity.

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

You obviously don't listen to a lot of tech death metal to even know what i'm talking about so why are you even commenting?

Oh, believe me I've listened to lots of extreme/technical metal drummers. I also can play the drums, can do blast beats too. I wouldn't otherwise comment like this. The fact that you don't remember my challenging your "top dog status" doesn't mean it didn't happen. You can check out VH's R.I.P. thread for that. I'm too lazy to do that now. Comparing VH with YJM is... not OK. Then, Quentin Tarantino surpassed Woody Allen. LOL Anyway, have a good night. 


I don't spend enough time in the forum to care about such challenges to be honest.

I also don't really care who thinks who's better than who etc

Music isn't a contest but if we are ranking artists as supposedly being in the top of their respective game then we do have to tick off a few characteristics of their craft in order to gauge their overall abilities.

Not sure what you're talking about but when i say Malmsteem is a better guitarist is solely from a technical point of view. I find VH much more interesting to actually listen to actually and there are dozens of guitarists who are better in every possible way than both of them!

Top drumming is a perception. What do we mean by TOP DRUMMING PERFORMANCES? In my world that includes not only creativity, innovation, compositional ingenuity and a firm command of textures, timbres, tones and rhythmic nuances but also includes speed and the ability to navigate through fields of time signature changes.

If you or anybody else on the other hand interprets TOP DRUMMING PERFORMANCES as the most interesting to them or some other interpretation, then so be it.

IMHO, tech death is unsurpassed in not ONLY speed but in myriad attributes.

That does not mean in any way that non-metal drummers are not excellent or talented!

And of course these observations have ZERO to do with enjoyability regarding personal taste.

Jazz and jazz-fusion bands are indeed talented ( as are prog bands ) but i personally haven't heard anything that exceeds the all-encompassing technicalities of tech death and even proggy black metal.

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It would be helpful if the OP would give feedback to the examples given. Then we could refine our top drumming performances.

Also, someone mentioned Billy Cobham. Don't recall anything he did in the last decade. Is he as good as Art Blakey?
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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Does anybody have any specific songs that you can point to as examples of each drummer's prowess?

This comes to mind instantly, though I look at this more as a stellar band effort.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

You obviously don't listen to a lot of tech death metal to even know what i'm talking about so why are you even commenting?

Oh, believe me I've listened to lots of extreme/technical metal drummers. I also can play the drums, can do blast beats too. I wouldn't otherwise comment like this. The fact that you don't remember my challenging your "top dog status" doesn't mean it didn't happen. You can check out VH's R.I.P. thread for that. I'm too lazy to do that now. Comparing VH with YJM is... not OK. Then, Quentin Tarantino surpassed Woody Allen. LOL Anyway, have a good night. 

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Originally posted by Shadowyzard Shadowyzard wrote:

Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ not sure what you're disagreeing about. Of course that guy is good and many other non-metal drummers are excellent however tech death metal drummers are basically jazz drummers on steroids. Whether it suits your personal tastes or not, speed is a defining characteristic of top drumming performances along with creativity, compositional fortitude and emotional connectivity. As someone who pretty much consumes all genres of music, i'm quite familiar with most styles of drumming. As good as the guy you presented is, he's no Billy Cobham!

I disagree about the competition thing. This is actually funny. You also said that Malmsteen surpassed Van Halen. I "challenged" you, you admitted defeat. And then around a year later, you said the same thing. Really, this is ridiculous. Being on steroids does not equal technical prowess or superiority. Anyway, I believe this is your perception. Neither have I desire to change it, nor do I see a point in trying that.


TOP means TOP. Malmsteen's musical vocabulary blows Van Halen's away. When did you challenge me? Don't remember that. You obviously don't listen to a lot of tech death metal to even know what i'm talking about so why are you even commenting?

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

^ not sure what you're disagreeing about. Of course that guy is good and many other non-metal drummers are excellent however tech death metal drummers are basically jazz drummers on steroids. Whether it suits your personal tastes or not, speed is a defining characteristic of top drumming performances along with creativity, compositional fortitude and emotional connectivity. As someone who pretty much consumes all genres of music, i'm quite familiar with most styles of drumming. As good as the guy you presented is, he's no Billy Cobham!

I disagree about the competition thing. This is actually funny. You also said that Malmsteen surpassed Van Halen. I "challenged" you, you admitted defeat. And then around a year later, you said the same thing. Really, this is ridiculous. Being on steroids does not equal technical prowess or superiority. Anyway, I believe this is your perception. Neither have I desire to change it, nor do I see a point in trying that.

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^ not sure what you're disagreeing about. Of course that guy is good and many other non-metal drummers are excellent however tech death metal drummers are basically jazz drummers on steroids. Whether it suits your personal tastes or not, speed is a defining characteristic of top drumming performances along with creativity, compositional fortitude and emotional connectivity. As someone who pretty much consumes all genres of music, i'm quite familiar with most styles of drumming. As good as the guy you presented is, he's no Billy Cobham!

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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Haven 't even heard any jazz-fusion that can compete personally.

I vehemently disagree with this statement BTW. Not everything is speed and endurance in music. These are not sprinters, but musicians. Here's a good example for you. This guy is unimaginably good.


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

When it comes to top drumming performances in the 2010s, the world of technical death metal is the pinnacle of percussive prowess.

Bands like Gorguts, Beyond Creation, Obscura, Gorod, Gigan, Pyrrhon, Portal, Nile and Ad Nauseum just to name a few blow everything else out of the water.

Haven 't even heard any jazz-fusion that can compete personally.

I'm not normally a fan of extreme drumming. My favourite extreme metal drummer is Nicholas Barker. His compositional abilities surpassed nearly all his rivals IMO. I used past tense, as I think he was in his prime in Cradle of Filth and Dimmu Borgir. His Lock Up stuff is still cool though.

Puppy must know this guy (see the video), but it might interest others here. I think Dominator's style is not that dynamic, but his fills are like those of a fantasy anime character. Haha. 


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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Does anybody have any specific songs that you can point to as examples of each drummer's prowess?





I could literally list hundreds of death metal drummers.

This video demonstrates some of the best and their techniques.

There's a second part if you want to explore further.



AWESOME! Thanks, Mike!

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John Longstreth of GORGUTS (2009-14) often makes the top of the list for tech death drummers. Pretty much every song is mind-blowing. This is just the first track on COLORED SANDS which was a prog metal masterpiece to many.




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Originally posted by BrufordFreak BrufordFreak wrote:

Does anybody have any specific songs that you can point to as examples of each drummer's prowess?





I could literally list hundreds of death metal drummers.

This video demonstrates some of the best and their techniques.

There's a second part if you want to explore further.



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Does anybody have any specific songs that you can point to as examples of each drummer's prowess?



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Harrison
Mastelotto
Portnoy
Blundell
D'Virgilio

Take your pick. All five of the above are inhuman examples of greatness and true heirs to Peart, Collins, Palmer and Bruford.
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Originally posted by Grumpyprogfan Grumpyprogfan wrote:

Marco Minnemann... solo, The Aristocrats, Steven Wilson, Dewa Budjana, and many others. All superb.

Virgil Donati or Simon Phillips next in line.
Yes. Marco is a great drummer.
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Originally posted by siLLy puPPy siLLy puPPy wrote:

When it comes to top drumming performances in the 2010s, the world of technical death metal is the pinnacle of percussive prowess.

Bands like Gorguts, Beyond Creation, Obscura, Gorod, Gigan, Pyrrhon, Portal, Nile and Ad Nauseum just to name a few blow everything else out of the water.

Haven 't even heard any jazz-fusion that can compete personally.


Yep. Put Aaron Kitcher on top of that list. Its unfortunate his drumming is accompanied by Infant Annihilator lyrics.
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