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djcox2112
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Thanks for the great pic of pre-Rush, never saw those before... Seriously I respect the debut album of 1974, Rush, but that was not Rush... Rush is after Neil, no disrespect, just my opinion. I was a kid in Michigan in high school in 1977, first heard 2112, I was hooked. Listened to that a million times and decided to purchase COS, it was rougher took some time, but I eventually loved it. Today, Fountain of Lamneth is one of my go to Rush tunes. Listen to it all the time when I'm by myself, like on walks with dog, wife doesn't exactly love it. "No one at the bridge", IMHO no better song ever written by any group. I've saw them live roughly 40 times, almost every tour with the exception of HOF, didn't get into that album (but I still bought it) :) Started out in West Michigan, then Chicago, Milwaukee, then down in Dallas, TX where I've lived for the last 40 years. My favorite period would be from COS thru Hemispheres, but love them all (especially PW/MP)... Moving forward, what a great album Clockwork Angels was, reverting back a little, saw them twice that tour, Dallas (the DVD show), and later the next year in G.R. MI. That was a perfect ending for me, saw them in my start/ending locations. Also saw them in the R40 tour, great show...
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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I don't see any pics of "pre Rush" on here so I'm not sure what you are talking about.
I disagree about the first album not being Rush. Most of the songs on FBN don't really sound that different than the debut (imo) so maybe CoS was their first. Then you could make the argument they weren't really firing on all cylinders until 2112 so maybe that was their first real album in much the same way people say TYA was the first Yes album. For me the debut was still pure Rush. John Rutsey was their from the beginning and they played as a band for six years before Neil joined. But if someone wants to think Rush was not Rush until Neil joined fine. You can say before that they were Hadrian (one of the bands some members were in early on).
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Just an anecdote: I once met a guy who used to ask people if they were 'space' or 'post space' Rush fans. Not having the slightest idea of what he was on about, I asked him for an explanation. He said 'space' Rush fans were old fans who liked Rush before Geddy had the space between his front top teeth filled in. You can only get this stuff from Rush fans.
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Psychedelic Paul
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Out of the list of All-Time Top 10 Progressive Rock Bands, Rush are the only band who I still haven't gotten around to listening to all of their albums, although I'm in no Rush.
1. Genesis (821 points) 2. Yes (712 points) 3. King Crimson (683 points) 4. Pink Floyd (672 points) 5. Rush (379 points) 6. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (333 points) 7. Van der Graaf Generator (304 points) 8. Jethro Tull (261 points) 9. Gentle Giant (248 points) 10. Marillion (232 points) |
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Jeffro
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Oh, come on. There are plenty of bands who sounded different on their first or early albums. Ever listen to the first Scorpions album, Lonesome Crow? Ever listen to pre-Steve Perry Journey? How about From Genesis to Revelation by Genesis? The first album is still undeniably Rush, just different than what they would become.
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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And when did Geddy get the space filled in?
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verslibre
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The first album is Led Rush.
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Have you heard YYNOT's rendition? This was before their original vocalist Rocky Kuner (yes, that's her name) left. Her voice is positively electrifying. |
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Sacro_Porgo
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Yeah, excellent call on Genesis. Like, people give Rush flack for the first album not being "Rush" enough, or whatever. Nevermind that it has at least one certified Rush classic on it (at a sprawling 7 minutes too, Working Man!) and at least a handful of other hardcore fan favorites or otherwise oft overlooked classics (I'll let you decide if that includes In The Mood or not, lol). "There was no Neil!" "There was no prog!" Bah! But Genesis' first album, which didn't have Steve Hackett or Phil Collins on it, nor did it contain anything much resembling progressive rock (much closer to psychedelic pop in the vein of the Beau Brummles, and not like, the greatest psych pop of all time either). Yet I don't see people going around and saying "oh, well that's not Genesis, not really." It really is Genesis, the same way Rush s/t is really Rush, it's just the early days of the bands, still getting their feet wet, not settled in. Although, I'll admit, if anyone did want to argue that FGTR isn't "really" Genesis, I'd be more sympathetic than with the similar argument about Rush.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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verslibre
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I've never heard much in the way that FGtR "isn't a Genesis album" as opposed to levels of dislike that vary wildly, usually culminating in "for completists only."
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Sacro_Porgo
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Exactly!
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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Early Journey was a good example. I suppose Fleetwood Mac weren't Fleetwood Mac before Stevie Nicks and Lindsy Buckingham joined. There's probably a whole bunch of other examples. It is true that some bands try to disown their early works (The Moody Blues come to mind) but the fact is bands change and evolve. The only example I can think of that might be considered legitimate (as far as it not being the same band) would be Renaissance where the original iteration had pretty much nothing to do with the Annie Haslam version.
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Sacro_Porgo
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Or how about Jefferson Airplane / Jefferson Starship / Starship, who would actually agree with the assessment that they weren't the same band at the start as they were later on! lol
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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AFlowerKingCrimson
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^Well, there's a name changed involved there (actually three) so technically they were different bands even though they often had many of the same members.
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Anyone who is a post-space Rush fan is a literal and complete degenerate... belongs in a siberian labor camp. |
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Before I comment, I have to ask, is that you or did you just find that video?
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Sacro_Porgo
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I have been an everyday visiting member of The Rush Forum for like 8 or 9 years, and this is the first I've ever heard of post or pre space Rush. Either the whole concept is made up, or it's so unimportant that the vast majority of Rush fans would think it's made up.
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Porg for short. My love of music doesn't end with prog! Feel free to discuss all sorts of music with me. Odds are I'll give it a chance if I haven't already! :)
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