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Poll Question: What are your three favorite albums?
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    Posted: 10 hours 6 minutes ago at 04:41

One of the greatest bands out there in the last three decades. I think they have a natural place in the Progarchives, but it's not of great importance to me. I included both live and studio, as the live ones feature original material/improvisations anyway. Vote for up to three, and post a list of all your favorites - if you like.

Sex, 1989 - not heard
Next, 1990 - 5/10
Aquatic, 1994 - 9/10
Silent Night, 1996 - not heard
The Boys (Music for the Feature Film), 1998 - 7/10
Piano Bass Drums (live), 1998 - 8/10
Hanging Gardens, 1999 - 10/10
Aether, 2001 - 6/10
Athenaeum, Homebush, Quay & Raab (live), 2002 - 7/10
Drive By, 2003 8/10
Photosynthetic (live), 2003 - not heard
Mosquito / See Through, 2004 - not heard
Chemist, 2006 - 9/10
Townsville (live), 2007 - 8/10
Silverwater, 2009 - 6/10
Live at WFMU on Brian Turner's Show 2/10/2009, 2010 - not heard
Mindset, 2011 - 7/10
Open, 2013 - 8/10
Vertigo, 2015 - 7/10
Unfold, 2017 - 8/10
Body, 2018 - 8/10
Drift Underworld & The Necks (collaboration), 2020 - not heard
Three, 2020 - 8/10
Travel, 2023 - 9/10
Bleed, 2024 - 8/10
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Voted for:

Hanging Gardens (1999)



Travel (2023



Aquatic (1994)



-seven more for a top ten:

Chemist (2006) (love it just as much, but I got to follow my own rules:)
Unfold (2017)
Three (2020)
Piano Bass Drums (1998)
Bleed (2024)
Open (2013)
Townsville (2007)
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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (0) Thanks(0)   Quote Lewian Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 7 hours 47 minutes ago at 07:00
Haha, a super specialist poll... given that I consciously only know four, it's hard to vote for three.... anyway, Hanging Gardens is so good, I throw the first vote in here.
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I love what I know of The Necks, and I too think of it as PA worthy.

While I don't know most of these albums, I voted for Hanging Gardens which I find incredible. So second vote there. I also very much like Drive By, Body and Three and enjoyed Travel a lot. I really like the jazzy post-rock qualities of various The Necks.

And in The Body, which I should have mentioned in my three tracks topic over 40 minutes long, I like the Krautrock sounds. And Drive By for there too. Awesome.

Edited by Logan - 5 hours 25 minutes ago at 09:22
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Ahem

https://www.progarchives.com/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=125790



I love a great many of their records, but Sex will always hold a place in my heart (and was on when I had my first DMT trip).

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Post Options Post Options   Thanks (1) Thanks(1)   Quote Logan Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 4 hours 53 minutes ago at 09:54
^ I know you linked to this album in that topic. It's jazz plus.

Can they do the Can can?

https://youtu.be/qE8g2W0mWOY?si=dyRdCg1-4YhUZF5Q&t=1463

Yes they Can.

Let's see what the new album holds too from this year. In or out of PA, great band regardless that I find has music fit for this site.

By the way, not suggesting mutiny, but I wish some of us could get together and create our own site sometimes. One that embraces a wider diversity of progressive and art music. I'd love to work with all who have posted in this topic on some project at least.

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^I just realised I'm actually on the Post/Math team, so there's no reason why I shouldn't take them to Luca and see what he thinks. "Post-rock" is one of the many tags listed on RYM. If that fails, Greg, would you be down to make a case for them in Related?

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It was via PA'S very own Sean Trane that I acquired my first CDs by The Necks a couple of decades back. I now own most of their discography in one form or another and I have seen them live in London a couple of times. As for narrowing it down to my three favourites, that's a very tall order. I will go with
Hanging Gardens
Piano Bass Drums
Unfold

Hanging Gardens is perhaps the most PA friendly, and sounds a bit like parts of In A Silent Way
Piano Bass Drums is a good example of their long form live improvisations, with no electronic instruments or overdubs.
Unfold is my favourite of their releases featuring 3 or more tracks in the 15 - 20 minute range.

Overall their discography is remarkably consistent, and there isn't anything that I wouldn't recommend.
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Originally posted by Gordy Gordy wrote:

^I just realised I'm actually on the Post/Math team, so there's no reason why I shouldn't take them to Luca and see what he thinks. "Post-rock" is one of the many tags listed on RYM. If that fails, Greg, would you be down to make a case for them in Related?


I would be down to do that. Musically, of course I can link it to Post-Rock (Swans specifically), JRF artists, and Krautrock (like Can). It has collaborated/worked with Swans (and is one of Gira's fave acts) more than once so I would think PR should be quite easy. Be an easy yes for me. The more relations the better. I love various The Necks albums but don't know much about the band yet beyond that.

By the way, a favourite of mine that is part jazz, part Krautrock that I thinkj various The Necks people would like is Niechęć. Maybe I will make a formal suggestion for that (I;ven been into it since 2016).

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Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Hanging Gardens is perhaps the most PA friendly, and sounds a bit like parts of In A Silent Way

I'd say sidelong pieces such as "Signal" from Travel (but most of the album really) and "Bloom" from Three (actually most of Three as well) both have more in common with Post Rock then with Jazz Fusion. Maybe that's a little surface level, but I associate quite a bit of their output with Post Rock. Something in the way they tend to groove steadily along - or drive, that just "rocks".
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^ The post rock qualities of The Necks is big factor of what appeals to me often about the band. And the Krautrock in Body which i reminscent of how Swans incorporates Krautrock in say The Glowing Meaning. Of course Swans' leaving meaning and The Necks, say, Travel have similarities.



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^ I should relisten to Body
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^ It's a wonderful album. I hope that any who might think it's only jazz might listen to, say, that track from about 24 minutes in. That album is a slam dunk (no-brainer) for PA to my ears, and of course the Necks has much other material that I would have thought would have made it easier for people to accept.

Incidentally, I got especially into The Necks some years ago because of its Swans relations. The Necks is one of those, damn this is so great, bands for me. The more I listen...    While I like jazz, I got into The Necks for its post rock (or post rock-like) qualities to a very large extent.

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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

^ It's a wonderful album. I hope that any who might think it's only jazz might listen to, say, that track from about 24 minutes in. That album is a slam dunk (no-brainer) for PA to my ears
Indeed. I don't know why I haven't really noticed before what I hear now (but it's not the first time I've experienced something like this:).
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Syzygy Syzygy wrote:

Hanging Gardens is perhaps the most PA friendly, and sounds a bit like parts of In A Silent Way

I'd say sidelong pieces such as "Signal" from Travel (but most of the album really) and "Bloom" from Three (actually most of Three as well) both have more in common with Post Rock then with Jazz Fusion. Maybe that's a little surface level, but I associate quite a bit of their output with Post Rock. Something in the way they tend to groove steadily along - or drive, that just "rocks".


I think the post rock feel is more overt when Tony Buck adds guitar overdubs, which I first noticed on Chemist. They are much more than the sum of their influences, though.
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^ Yes. And it's kind of what I meant when acknowledging that I'm probably hearing some surface level similarities. I do not think they actually are Post Rock as such. The effect their music has on me often feel quite similar though. It rarely remind me of experiencing other jazz. Maybe some of The Necks music is Post Rock in the way that Herbie Hancock's Crossings is jazz Rock Fusion. Meaning that the music came from a different mindset, and they've probably never attempted to create music in that (or any) specific style. Although the music itself is indifferent, a listener may still find a place for them in a (for them) familiar neighbourhood. Like when Silly Puppy hears things in early Durutti Column that makes him claim that they "created Post Rock". Vini Reilly and his band, much like The Necks carved out their own sonic space that they operate within. Then online nerds like me come in much later and insist that whatever band is this or that genre.

That said, I refuse to believe that a good chunk of "Body" isn't the least bit inspired by Neu!/Harmonia type of Krautrock, though (much like a lot of Post Rock is).
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