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Abacab vs Worlds Apart
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Poll Question: Which of these is your favorite?
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    Posted: June 10 2025 at 13:32
Released within a few weeks of each other in 1981 (although in the USA, Worlds Apart had to wait until the following year for its release). Both albums were gamechangers for their respective bands: Abacab introduced a heavily synthesized, urban sound for Genesis, while Worlds Apart was Saga's first big-budget, "name producer" album that gave them a worldwide following.
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Have to go with Genesis.
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That album got me into Saga in a big way...Although I remember hearing Humble Stance a few years before. Saw Saga in concert around 1983 on Heads or Tails tour, I really enjoy all their albums and they have a big catalog.

Genesis is Genesis, easily in my top 5 all time...but Saga gets the nod for me here.
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I went with Saga. Very good album. I do like Abacab too.
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As I get older, I seem to like Abacab more and more, thus my vote.
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Worlds Apart. The whole album cooks, whereas Abacab has some very good songs (I love the title), but is not quite as engaging as Duke.
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Worlds Apart...from start to finish. Abacab has some moments. I listened to Worlds Apart throughout the 80s.
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Saga by far here.
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I have only heard the Genesis album in full and not for ages, so I won't vote (never got into the pop-rock AOR stuff that much) , but Saga's "On the Loose" off World's Apart I would hear being played so much back in the 80s.
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Worlds Apart by 2 stars. Great album.
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Very good Saga album vs. OK Genesis album.
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Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.
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^Calling Genesis a prog band around 1981 is akin to calling Sade jazz rock
Be that as it may I voted for Abacab. I happen to love Genesis’ 80s pop stretch.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


I'm not very familiar with these albums, however...

Both have been rock bands and I believe that both have made progressive rock. I prefer to categorise on the album (or even track) level than band level commonly since many bands are only making progressive rock for part of their careers and I wonder, is Genesis still a Prog band at that point? Is Abacab more Prog than Worlds Apart? And how how much should our appreciation (our favourite) depend on how Prog something is? I love lots of non-Prog especially as a genre designation) music more than a great deal of Prog music, and actually, what I recognise as progressive rock may not fit another perception. Because I am member of a Prog forum does not mean to me that I must loyal to Prog (and a lot of Prog by numbers stuff is hardly progressive in a sense).
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Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

^Calling Genesis a prog band around 1981 is akin to calling Sade jazz rock
Be that as it may I voted for Abacab. I happen to love Genesis’ 80s pop stretch.


You got in first -- sometimes it takes me minutes just to correct my typos. Funnily enough, I have seen various Prog fans complain because Genesis had jumped the Prog ship by then (or mostly). As for Sade, she was never into jazz-rock that I can recall, but she did Smooth Jazz and Lovers Rock.



Alas, that Lovers Rock quip could have been almost funny if told totally differently by a smooth operator.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


Worlds Apart is much more proggy than Abacab. And it's a very good album compared to Abacab that I rate a good album. And Worlds Apart has nothing on it that approaches the wretched mess that is "Who Dunnit?"

I'm a Prog fan, but there are a number of albums that are not considered Prog that I prefer over many Prog albums.

So I would not say it's a sad day. Maybe if Worlds Apart was leading Selling England by the Pound or A Trick of the Tail in a poll, that possibly would be a sad day.

Edited by Big Sky - 23 hours 44 minutes ago at 12:02
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


Saga is a prog band that has made a few non-prog albums.

Abacab comes at the tail end of Genesis being a prog band.
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Originally posted by Rick1 Rick1 wrote:

Rock band vs. prog band. Rock band in the lead in Progarchives. Sad day.


We're voting by album, not band.
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