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This feels more accurate to me:)

5 stars1969: Can - Monster Movies
5 stars1970: Can - Soundtracks
5 stars1971: Can - Tago Mago
5 stars1972: Can - Ege Bamyasi
5 stars1973: Can - Future Days
5 stars1974: Can - Soon Over Babaluma
4 stars1975: Can - Landed
3 stars1976: Can - Unlimited Edition
4 stars1976: Can - Flow Motion
4 stars1977: Can - Saw Delight
4 stars1977: Can - Out of Reach
3 stars1979: Can - Can (aka Inner Space)
4 stars1981: Can - Delay 1968
4 stars1995: The Peel Sessions
4 stars2012: The Lost Tapes
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

This feels more accurate to me:)

5 stars1969: Can - Monster Movies
5 stars1970: Can - Soundtracks
5 stars1971: Can - Tago Mago
5 stars1972: Can - Ege Bamyasi
5 stars1973: Can - Future Days
5 stars1974: Can - Soon Over Babaluma
4 stars1975: Can - Landed
3 stars1976: Can - Unlimited Edition
4 stars1976: Can - Flow Motion
4 stars1977: Can - Saw Delight
4 stars1977: Can - Out of Reach
3 stars1979: Can - Can (aka Inner Space)
4 stars1981: Can - Delay 1968
4 stars1995: The Peel Sessions
4 stars2012: The Lost Tapes


That looks about right.
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07. CARAVAN        "What does the name CARAVAN mean to you? The mainstream standard? The silhouetted palm tree and camel on boxes of dates at Christmas? They seem influenced by their name - those long swooping lines, something nomadic about it, probably the flute. The flute playing Sahara bird flight solos hovering over the camel-train, earth magic, soft machine and sky. It's nearer to us than Africa though, like Caspar, Melchior and Balthazar they home in from the east. Who knows what you will find, this is a journey at the end of the 20th century, lift the yashmaks and see little bubbles of sound breaking through dry sound. CARAVAN making huge music constructions right out there in the open where everyone can see, each tune constructed, built up with layers of sound, different textures, some delicate and filmy like gauze - coloured lights, see-through tights - others heavy and stomping like old desert blankets loaded with North African memory-dust. Underneath, the drums burst through, powerful, excellent drums - clean, driving and pointed drums....." - Caravan album sleeve notes

Pye Hastings - guitar, vocals
Richard Coughlan - drums
Dave Sinclair - keyboards, vocals
Richard Sinclair - bass, vocals



4 stars 1968: Caravan - Caravan - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLky8Mxrvk-59bXU8yNcQaswrUMFS2u2D-
4 stars 1970: Caravan - If I Could Do It All Over Again, I'd Do It All Over You - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtsoUorBySZ8GsEIMLVrI2R
5 stars 1971: Caravan - In the Land of Grey and Pink - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mFz0nR_h7FWnmMQ90QMaMVh7Gadk3hA8k
3 stars 1972: Caravan - Waterloo Lily - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l3xXCT-ovmKtcWTz4bqdMKNK4ZooG0ikg
4 stars 1973: Caravan - For Girls Who Grow Plump in the Night - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nRDGZ_xGZ-OPCjQTlT_IVG7XdzoldlbGY
4 stars 1974: Caravan - Caravan and the New Symphonia - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m26tm8YZpGT_hj6yMBGiaqMnouS5z80ww
4 stars 1974: Caravan - Live at Fairfield Halls
4 stars 1975: Caravan - Cunning Stunts - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l1LBMqse1h3tg6f17z8-L8qF2vAKv_tMc
3 stars 1976: Caravan - Blind Dog at St. Dunstans - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lt6DhC2Iqme_yI0pKUmdzHM
4 stars 1977: Caravan - Better by Far - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Lvg4B6gjA1zZ0kmuqJDBYH0
3 stars 1980: Caravan - The Album
3 stars 1982: Caravan - Back to Front
4 stars 1990: Caravan - Access All Areas: Live in Nottingham - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLky8Mxrvk-58EbyG4_LdQ4fE9OwX7lgv5
3 stars 1994: Caravan - Cool Water - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1Luxcpn_zIyUqko2wVeWJCDI
4 stars 1995: Caravan - The Battle of Hastings - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mkYPREg26C9DG6Q4iH1jF-AcPdKlllRhU
4 stars 2003: Caravan - The Unauthorised Breakfast Item - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLoIDt_C5y1LtSTGHVqGWiGO9ge-Ofd68c
4 stars 2013: Caravan - Paradise Filter
4 stars 2021: Caravan - It's None of Your Business - http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k0Y_m2L4o6800lfoXZUJhGo-g1bQUGpFk
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So, Waterloo Lily only gets 3 stars and their last effort gets 4 stars??

you're really got to be kidding...
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About Czeslaw Niemen whom I've listed, he's not much well-known/appreciated on PA, but that's quite different on RYM.
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I wanted to leave a little feedback.

Out of this top 50, here are the bands I really like:

01. Amon Duul II (Germany)
04. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (Italy)
05. Camel (England)
06. Can (Germany)
07. Caravan (England)
12. Eloy (Germany)
13. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (England)
16. Focus (Holland)
17. Peter Gabriel (England)
18. Genesis (England)
19. Gentle Giant (England)
20. Gong (Multi-National)
23. Happy the Man (United States)
24. Hawkwind (England)
25. Henry Cow (England)
27. Jethro Tull (England)
28. Kansas (United States)
29. King Crimson (England)
30. Le Orme (Italy)
31. Magma (France)
33. The Moody Blues (England)
34. The Nice (England)
35. Mike Oldfield (England)
37. PFM (Italy)
38. Pink Floyd (England)
39. Procol Harum (England)
40. Renaissance (England)
41. Rush (Canada)
42. Soft Machine (England)
45. Styx (United States)
46. Tangerine Dream (Germany)
47. UK (England)
48. Van der Graaf Generator (England)
49. Rick Wakeman (England)
50. Yes (England)

The ones I don't like:

10. Dream Theater (United States)
15. The Flower Kings (Sweden)
26. IQ (England)
32. Marillion (England)
43. Spock's Beard (United States)

The ones I think are decent but I just don't care much for:

02. Ange (France)
03. Anglagard (Sweden)
14. The Enid (England)
22. Gryphon (England)

And the ones I haven't heard of:

08. Cast (Mexico)
09. Deus Ex Machina (Italy)
11. Echolyn (United States)
21. Grobschnitt (Germany)
36. Omega (Hungary)
44. Strawbs (England)

Edited by Gnik Nosmirc - July 17 2025 at 05:55
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

So, Waterloo Lily only gets 3 stars and their last effort gets 4 stars??

you're really got to be kidding...

If it should be okay to tell about my opinion and feelings, I don't think that Paul's mega listnings and ratings at this point of time are mostly meant to get other people pay attention to it. No, I think, it's more about some very strong obsessions to do it, which I personally for different reasons have very difficult to accept, but he has right to rate the way he wants.
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^ I think Waterloo Lily is a fine album, but noticably weaker than the ones it's sandwiched in between. I'd rate it a 7/10 myself. With PA's rating system it would have landed on three stars for me as well. Haven't heard their last effort though.
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

So, Waterloo Lily only gets 3 stars and their last effort gets 4 stars??

you're really got to be kidding...


I have the perfect excuse now to give those two Caravan albums another listen to see if my ratings are Back to Front.

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08. CAST       The third-best band from Mexico? Probablemente. Cast have performed in many of the major prog festivals, including:- Progfest; ProgDay; ProgEst; Rock Progresivo; and Baja Prog in their home country of Mexico. That's a lot of prog! Cast even built their own recording studio, called Cast Studios, appropriately enough. Thankfully, Cast's music is more inspirational than their choice of studio name with plenty of dynamics and unexpected musical twists and turns, going from pastoral flute work to the kind of grand epic keyboard signatures that we've come to know and love. Most of Cast's lyrics are in English too - the international language of prog. Hasta la vista, baby.

4 stars 1993: Cast - Landing in a Serious Mind
                 1994: Cast - Sounds of Imagination
                 1994: Cast - Third Call
                 1995: Cast - Four Aces
                 1995: Cast - Endless Signs - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3vrlfwjgln8&list=RD3vrlfwjgln8&start_radio=1
                 1996: Cast - Beyond Reality - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=94hZx8MRU7c&list=RD94hZx8MRU7c&start_radio=1
                 1997: Cast - Angels and Demons
                 1999: Cast - Imaginary Window - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_njkSvZOKbkSwZvvYdCxmY_IWTV0Qnj35Y
                 2000: Cast - Legacy - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n4EEL3RmUu1P9_32S_jdmSARzzmym9pG8
                 2002: Cast - Infinity - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uedmlTiSwA&list=RD8uedmlTiSwA&start_radio=1
                 2003: Cast - Al-Bandaluz - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m40gZL6a6dgaiaFxqeAoDI8MQOCLqCUt8
                 2004: Cast - Nimbus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l6qtJ1PI227QA6BekcWJOva_mbO0bJXXE
                 2006: Cast - Mosaique - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lyQvvFMLABticl6V4HJslLsvotWFr3V7M
                 2007: Cast - Com.union - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_l97r4GCn54g_sRM9uA1KFr6kA8hb4aMI8
                 2008: Cast - Originallis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_niEAEYjg0wpryBLTDDSPRS_6NfdrhKVd8
                 2011: Cast - Art - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uneaQTGLyo
                 2014: Cast - Arsis - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mmP80Flpnna8D7BYaXPo6dgF6izfWUSMo
                 2015: Cast - Vida - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kRVdG3v-fow9bOxU3IujcvmP9v6T2KinU
                 2017: Cast - Power and Outcome - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_m2jqVrddHQ5G2s3wh6-ItBPXCSNYfNK_c
                 2021: Cast - Vigesimus - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_k8-1FzXkA52ZQals1JUWTr5aLzxtLMm9A



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Originally posted by Gnik Nosmirc Gnik Nosmirc wrote:

I wanted to leave a little feedback.

Out of this top 50, here are the bands I really like:

01. Amon Duul II (Germany)
04. Banco del Mutuo Soccorso (Italy)
05. Camel (England)
06. Can (Germany)
07. Caravan (England)
12. Eloy (Germany)
13. Emerson, Lake & Palmer (England)
16. Focus (Holland)
17. Peter Gabriel (England)
18. Genesis (England)
19. Gentle Giant (England)
20. Gong (Multi-National)
23. Happy the Man (United States)
24. Hawkwind (England)
25. Henry Cow (England)
27. Jethro Tull (England)
28. Kansas (United States)
29. King Crimson (England)
30. Le Orme (Italy)
31. Magma (France)
33. The Moody Blues (England)
34. The Nice (England)
35. Mike Oldfield (England)
37. PFM (Italy)
38. Pink Floyd (England)
39. Procol Harum (England)
40. Renaissance (England)
41. Rush (Canada)
42. Soft Machine (England)
45. Styx (United States)
46. Tangerine Dream (Germany)
47. UK (England)
48. Van der Graaf Generator (England)
49. Rick Wakeman (England)
50. Yes (England)

The ones I don't like:

10. Dream Theater (United States)
15. The Flower Kings (Sweden)
26. IQ (England)
32. Marillion (England)
43. Spock's Beard (United States)

The ones I think are decent but I just don't care much for:

02. Ange (France)
03. Anglagard (Sweden)
14. The Enid (England)
22. Gryphon (England)

And the ones I haven't heard of:

08. Cast (Mexico)
09. Deus Ex Machina (Italy)
11. Echolyn (United States)
21. Grobschnitt (Germany)
36. Omega (Hungary)
44. Strawbs (England)


I like nearly all of the bands in the Top 50, with the exception of Henry Cow and Magma.
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Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

^ I think Waterloo Lily is a fine album, but noticably weaker than the ones it's sandwiched in between. I'd rate it a 7/10 myself. With PA's rating system it would have landed on three stars for me as well. Haven't heard their last effort though.


WL is a solid 4 stars for me, with the ones either side being 5s...

their last effort just about scraped a 2 out of pity, because I only reserve a 1 star for a select few that really deserved it.
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Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

but he has right to rate the way he wants.


while we reserve the right to tell him he's mistaken...
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Originally posted by Jared Jared wrote:

Originally posted by David_D David_D wrote:

but he has right to rate the way he wants.

while we reserve the right to tell him he's mistaken...

What I've been doing for a rather long time by now is keeping far away from those mega listings and ratings.


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09. DEUS EX MACHINA      Welcome to the Machina! As their band name implies, you can expect the unexpected from this innovative Italian band who perform their songs in ancient Latin. A band for fans of Jacula and Antonius Rex then. Deux Ex Machina had a mountain to climb to appeal to prog fans in the 1990's (the decade that prog forgot), the only trouble being, they thought they were climbing Snowdon, when in fact it was Everest!   

3 stars 1991: Deus Ex Machina - Gladium Caeli
                 1992: Deus Ex Machina - Deus Ex Machina
                 1995: Deus Ex Machina - De Republica - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xyXIlou_X2g&list=RDxyXIlou_X2g&start_radio=1
                 1998: Deus Ex Machina - Equilibrismo da Insofferenza - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QNI4DpkEO3Y&list=RDQNI4DpkEO3Y&start_radio=1
                 2002: Deus Ex Machina - Cinque -
                 2008: Deus Ex Machina - Imparis - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUEOlN4qn7A
                 2016: Deus Ex Machina - Devoto
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10. DREAM THEATER        One of The Astonishing things about Dream Theater is I only became a fan of theirs purely by chance after a friend's daughter won their Images and Words album in a radio phone-in competition and then sold the CD onto me. There are many reasons why I love Dream Theater's Change of Seasons covers album, but Images and Words cannot express how much I love their second album - the first album with singer James LaBrie leading the way. That's the 1992 album that was destined to Pull Me Under their spell and I've been Surrounded with the music of Dream Theater ever since. They were the band who Awakened my latent desire for Progressive Metal (before I even knew such a genre existed) and altered my Train of Thought about Metal generally. This New York band have really stood the Distance Over Time too, despite losing their long-time drummer Mike Portnoy. In A Dramatic Turn of Events back in 2010, Portnoy announced he was leaving the band, temporarily throwing Dream Theater into Systematic Chaos, but Black Clouds and Silver Linings as they say, and The Spirit Carries On with their new drummer Mike Mangini. Anyway, that's it from me for now, so have fun, and hopefully, Take the Time to listen to some of the many   Dream Theater albums listed below, or you could always save them for Another Day.



4 stars 1989: Dream Theater - When Dream and Day Unite - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_li0d7h1v8158uiQviXYaU0s-YVGLUiFr8
5 stars 1992: Dream Theater - Images and Words - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_lAQBvxVGv13GwL7f0z2M5SJrn1BaGNvKA
4 stars 1994: Dream Theater - Awake - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mSQAf-fo5V_C1QP1VgzjjCKG7lHnSVvpU
4 stars 1995: Dream Theater - A Change of Seasons - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kWXG8rbHM2tUkDz0tIOLTEaSWswZyvnNc
4 stars 1997: Dream Theater - Falling into Infinity - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kNr4sNPbVjsA8pfWfR-bajDVuZZd2lPBo
5 stars 1999: Dream Theater - Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mY0UJ7SdDG7n4DgXGJ_h-vG0QH9LpayaA
4 stars 2002: Dream Theater - Six Degrees of Inner Turbulence - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nTL1U2POUqlwoey4_5PuJU6raBZOMZmTE
3 stars 2003: Dream Theater - Train of Thought - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mzHbHh63t-rMNesv4qdp459qrE1AD290E
4 stars 2005: Dream Theater - Octavarium - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_kenWZqZjpo5SVB1Jqq5I_ymw9FXIpVOKQ
3 stars 2007: Dream Theater - Systematic Chaos - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_n-aJJz0aVUUdehC1GC6KKlsyra3bNvzb4
4 stars 2009: Dream Theater - Black Clouds & Silver Linings - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mITLc-8859pN5FyuxZRjILfBdWgnRDJL0
4 stars 2011: Dream Theater - A Dramatic Turn of Events - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLaO5evNthlMg_FDhpXDbtsuKtydKx6aGD
3 stars 2013: Dream Theater - Dream Theater - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLo8SRTJOJ2EbaRhaZ6z2tSAwOtJh892RE
4 stars 2016: Dream Theater - The Astonishing - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_mBL-KhEYcvVpXh7Br3U9uxoDyQfgK4JdE
3 stars 2019: Dream Theater - Distance Over Time - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_nd0JULKbs82YNulDtoiDTnJdUkBvOfaVU
4 stars 2021: Dream Theater - The View from the Top of the World - https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=OLAK5uy_ksmWOXgYlkDzEJpHnBPdLWX47z2VysqSY
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