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Topic: Kansas vs Marillion Posted: May 23 2007 at 00:14 |
I realise that Marillion have been producing some great material lately but I just wanted to find out if Kansas still had the ability to make this poll a contest. I hope you judge this poll on the entire body of works and the influence that the works produced may have had on progressive rock over the years.
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darksideof
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 00:17 |
You can't compare Kansas to a 80's Genesis Tribute band.!!!
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 00:53 |
Kansas was an actual prog band. Marillion always was, and always will be an imitator band.
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:26 |
C'mon, you guys are a bit tough on Marillion. The Genesis comparison is a bit of a worn-out cliche. Regardless, think about Fish's lyrical brilliance--Misplaced Childhood. Rothery's excelllent intricate guitar work, Trewavas' underrated bass-work, the unique drum-style and behind it all Mark Kelly's great keyboard work. Hogarth also has a powerful voice. I don't think Kansas can match them in any of these spheres.
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Big Kansas Fan
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 01:51 |
Tommydouglas wrote:
C'mon, you guys are a bit tough on Marillion. The Genesis comparison is a bit of a worn-out cliche. Regardless, think about Fish's lyrical brilliance--Misplaced Childhood. Rothery's excelllent intricate guitar work, Trewavas' underrated bass-work, the unique drum-style and behind it all Mark Kelly's great keyboard work. Hogarth also has a powerful voice. I don't think Kansas can match them in any of these spheres. |
I`m pretty sure Kansas back in their prime could match anybody
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Atomic_Rooster
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 02:03 |
Kansas is far superior to Arkansas. I've got some relatives there and its an overall awesome state/band: great harmonies, lots of wheat, excellent musicianship, tornadoes ...
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theBox
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 02:12 |
there is a general pattern aplying to progarchives. Any given "neo"
band compared to a "symphonic" or "art" or whatever of the same (give
or take) caliber, is bound to loose. Big time!. My vote goes to kansas
as well!
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iguana
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 03:45 |
absolutely MARILLION – no comparison whatsoever. KANSAS may have had
a longer run and probably were the more original and individual band from
the outset, but it is without doubt who of the two are more relevant to
the progression of music at the moment.
MARILLION keep releasing albums that push the(ir) musical boundaries as
opposed to KANSAS, who you can expect to see at some country
fairground somewhere or elsewhere regurgitating the same songs over
and over again for an audience that stopped listening about 20 years ago...
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 04:53 |
darksideof wrote:
You can't compare Kansas to a 80's Genesis Tribute band.!!!  |
Or, indeed, Marillion... 
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Kansas was an actual prog band. Marillion always was, and always will be an imitator band. |
*sigh*
That simply isn't true - there is only one song that could back up that statement, and it's not even on an album - it was a "B-Side".
Edited by Certif1ed - May 23 2007 at 04:54
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iguana
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 05:02 |
Certif1ed wrote:
darksideof wrote:
You can't compare Kansas to a 80's Genesis Tribute band.!!!  |
Or, indeed, Marillion... 
GoldenSpiral wrote:
Kansas was an actual prog band. Marillion always was, and always will be an imitator band. |
*sigh*
That simply isn't true - there is only one song that could back up that statement, and it's not even on an album - it was a "B-Side". |
GRENDEL, eh? how very true. i still listen to it from time to time, just for a laugh.
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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Failcore
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 05:11 |
I think these bands do deserve to be compared. What they have in common is that both had a few too many pop and rock tendencies for many proggers to be completely comfortable listening to them. Personally, I love Kansas. Marillion, well I like Script, but the rest of their stuff is not for me.
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white_russian
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 05:26 |
marillion by far
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heavyhery
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 06:59 |
kansas by a long mile
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Norbert
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 07:42 |
I like Marillion a lot more.
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Gog/Magog
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 07:51 |
Marillion, as I prefer prog rock to soft rock!
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 08:17 |
TWO WORDS FOR FISH - PETER GABRIEL.....KANSAS. NOT EVEN CLOSE......
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 08:18 |
iguana wrote:
GRENDEL, eh? how very true. i still listen to it from time to time, just for a laugh. |
That would be because you, like me, appreciate Fish's sense of humour in his brilliant interpretations of Beowulf, right?
On second thoughts, you may not want to answer that 
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Jared
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 08:30 |
I've gone for Marillion.... but its a close run thing for me...
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iguana
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 08:44 |
Certif1ed wrote:
That would be because you, like me, appreciate Fish's sense of humour in his brilliant interpretations of Beowulf, right?
On second thoughts, you may not want to answer that  |
that's OK  speaking of, i still have an old live version somewhere on tape
from reading festival 81 or 82 – not bad at all!
to keep to the subject – i quite like a few kansas things but this is like
comparing apples to oranges. for my dose of kansas (once a year at the
most) i listen to the “live at the whiskey“ CD, which is a raw, emotional
and in-your-face disc, despite or even enhanced by steve walsh's VERY
knackered vocals.
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progressive rock and rural tranquility don't match. true or false?
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WaywardSon
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Posted: May 23 2007 at 09:07 |
For their entire body of work, I voted Kansas, but I also love the Marillion era with Fish.
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