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The Minstrel 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:32 |
Has there ever been a progressive punk band? I know progressive and punk kind of contradict each other, but I think a progressive punk band would be cool. I guess the Mars Volta is the closest to progressive punk.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:37 |
 The Minstrel wrote:
Has there ever been a progressive punk band? I know progressive and punk kind of contradict each other, but I think a progressive punk band would be cool. I guess the Mars Volta is the closest to progressive punk.
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I guess, you should stop guessing.
Progressive Punk is as clear an oxymoron you are going to find in music.
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:42 |
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Well Mars Volta would be as close as you could get to progressive punk
and that is only becuase they have punk roots and reviews will tell you the same. I personally don't agree
with them, but I know kids who will attend a get-up kids concert and
then drive home listening to Mars Volta.....I dunno.
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Reed Lover
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:44 |
WillieThePimp wrote:
, but I know kids who will attend a get-up kids concert. |
What's one of them? Like NAMBLA or something?
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Fibonacci's Se
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:47 |
Last month i was introduced to a punk band that didnt agree with the
direction of punk, their albums are extremely technical and very
punk..but for the life of me i cant remeber the groups name  
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WillieThePimp
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:48 |
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Haha, I knew I shouldn't of said that on a prog forum. The Get-up Kids
are some emo/punk band. I was saying that kids who love those kind of
bands listen to Mars Volta as well.
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King of Loss
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 18:51 |
WillieThePimp wrote:
Haha, I knew I shouldn't of said that on a prog forum. The Get-up Kids are some emo/punk band. I was saying that kids who love those kind of bands listen to Mars Volta as well. |
Obviously because the members of the Mars Volta used to be in an emo-like band called At The Drive In.
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 19:13 |
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Hierophant
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 19:40 |
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Prog punk?
I prefer prog-rap.
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gdub411
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:47 |
Peter Hammill's Nadir's Big Chance has a punk feel at times. In fact, some have suggested the origins of punk in the UK could have originated by Hammill's Nadir's Big Chance.
I would say, While 2-3 songs are somewhat punkish, the idea of Nadir's Big Chance being the origin of punk is complete bunc...but maybe you might want to check it out yourself. Great lp.
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:51 |
The Stranglers, The Sound, Twelfth Night (?), Violent Femmes, Echo & the Bunnymen....close enough.. 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:52 |
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 20:52 |
I think Punk is the ultimate form of progressive rock.
no structure, completely loose, ever changing time-signatures. 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:02 |
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James Lee
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:08 |
I'd recommend Television's "Marquee Moon" and Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation".
Punk was liberating for people who wanted to make music, and some managed to turn that inspiration into a 'progressive' approach...despite often lacking prog's esteem for virtuosity. So the genres may not so opposite as some would have you believe. 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:11 |
James Lee wrote:
I'd recommend Television's "Marquee Moon" and Sonic Youth's "Daydream Nation".
Punk was liberating for people who wanted to make music, and some managed to turn that inspiration into a 'progressive' approach...despite often lacking prog's esteem for virtuosity. So the genres may not so opposite as some would have you believe.
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Yes, they are. I blame Punk for destroying the "classic prog scene".
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:18 |
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It's a good thing we have punk to blame, or maybe we'd be forced to recognize that the original prog scene was already starting to run out of steam...
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:24 |
James Lee wrote:
It's a good thing we have punk to blame, or maybe we'd
be forced to recognize that the original prog scene was
already starting to run out of steam... |
Another hooray for Punk.
I was thinking the excact same thing myself 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:27 |
Progs enemy number one was not punk! It was the most evil of all...I dare not say it, but I must......: DISCO 
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Posted: May 06 2005 at 21:30 |
lostrom wrote:
Progs enemy number one was not punk! It was the most evil of all...I dare not say it, but I must......: DISCO |
Prog's biggest enemy was prog itself. The musicians of that era lost interest and decided to make some money.
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