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Poll Question: It's 1973, someone asks which of these 2 is your favorite...
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As a teen I already loved Zep (from very early we had at home II, IV, Houses of the Holy, PG and The Song Remains the Same) while I was only exposed to Sabbath quite later on, and only partially. And I found Sabbath much less refined, never was too crazy about them.
So my vote goes to Zep without question.
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Whoa !! That’s the first time I’ve ever heard Sabbath, Dio and Dumb in the same sentence
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Whoa !! That’s the first time I’ve ever heard Sabbath, Dio and Dumb in the same sentence

I know, I'm as surprised as you are. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Whoa !! That’s the first time I’ve ever heard Sabbath, Dio and Dumb in the same sentence


I know, I'm as surprised as you are. 
Heaven and Hell was a total spruce-up of a band during a tough time. Mob rules was better I thought. And Dehumanizer is outstanding for the most part. I miss Ronnie James.
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Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Whoa !! That’s the first time I’ve ever heard Sabbath, Dio and Dumb in the same sentence


I know, I'm as surprised as you are. 
Heaven and Hell was a total spruce-up of a band during a tough time. Mob rules was better I thought. And Dehumanizer is outstanding for the most part. I miss Ronnie Janes.

not to mention the Heaven & Hell - The Devil you know (2009). 
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Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Finnforest Finnforest wrote:

At that point, probably Sabbath. They had released their best stuff already, while Zeppelin had not yet released two of their best albums: PG and Presence.  


I agree on PG but as much as I enjoy Presence, one of Zeppelin's best it is not. 



To each his or her own tastes, but per my tastes, I'm with you on that,Cristi. I love Physical Graffiti and Presence is my least liked Led Zeppelin studio album. Post 1973, I happen to enjoy In Through the Out Door very much, especially for "Carouselambra". For me Presence does not rank amongst Zep's best, and while ITtOD is one of my favourites, I wouldn't rank it amongst the best, or greatest, either.



Taste indeed. It's funny. I find Presence probably their strongest, most consistent, and most cohesive title, the older I get. It was recorded quickly and you can feel the urgency and the unity of the material. It's very hard and heavy and aggressive with little of the overwrought stuff that bores me now. It's direct and yet the songs all feel like brothers, very comfortable together, very stylistically compatible. Aesthetically for me, it is the one Zep album that feels almost conceptual due to the singular hard-charging, head-down veneer of the tracks and the interesting packaging. Little keyboard noodling on this one.  Few stops/starts in the pacing until the end, when we are carried away with their best slow bluesy leads since SIBLY.  Respect all you guys tastes but this album is my baby as far as Zep is concerned.  No Quarter!!!  LOL
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Saperlipopette! Saperlipopette! wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by Logan Logan wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue


I think that's a good idea. the combo of Physical Graffiti, In Through the Out Door and The Song Remains the Same soundtrack would almost certainly get my vote (and I still like Presence). I'd want to listen to more BS from the time before participating.

So it would mean the LZ album from the second half of the 70s plus Coda, versus same from Sabbath plus the two albums with Ronnie James Dio (1980-81) 

Would be a Led Zep no-brainer vote from me. I know many loves those Ronnie James Dio-albums but to me they just sound dumb with weak song material. Plus the riffs aren't as memorable anymore. The classic six first BS-albums have an attractiver kind of diabolical eerie doom and gloom atmosphere but also desperation and paranoia which is all quite intriguing. Along comes the Rainbow guy and suddenly its all meaningless D&D nonsense (which works perfectly fine in Stargazer)

We made the mountains shake with laughter as we played
Hiding in our corner of the world
Then we did the demon dance and rushed to nevermore
Threw away the key and locked the door
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I've heard bad lyrical content in prog as well, so...

Dio albums are dumb?! That's new. I think they reinvented themselves with Ronnie and those two albums are essential Sabbath as well. 

if it's a no brainer, I won't bother anyone with a new poll.
I don't know Dio's own albums and I meant Back Sabbath with Dio on vocals. Most of what attracts me to those six first albums are completely gone and yes the lyrics got kinda dumb. I mean classic Sabbath is hardly great poetry but very effective and makes for the right mental imagery whilst listening. Yeah I listen to prog with even lamer lyrics I guess - but somehow I often just don't notice. With BS hearing the lyrics and what is sung is kind of hard to avoid for some reason.  

I didn't mean to be so negative that you dropped the whole idea. I was only talking about myself and that its a no-brainer for me. I'm sure many feel differently.
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Hi,

In my days in Santa Barbaric, it was mostly Led Zep ... by a mile and a half ... they sold out the local concert hall ... while that loud other band, had to have a 2nd and 3rd band on the bill, mostly left overs, to get enough folks on to it.

One more detail, and this kinda came from my girlfriend a few years later ... Led Zep was sexy for the ladies ... BS was not! BS was more for fan boys that like loud music that supposedly meant something!

AND ... it is not likely that you have heard the bootlegs du jour at the time, and there were 5 or 6 of them "major ones" from Led Zep ... and NONE from BS ... the rest were all PF, Dylan and GD bootlegs!

I think that should just about say it all!


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Undusting my Sabbath box 'The Osbourne Years'. A good 15 years since the last listen.

but...The Mighty Zep all the way, baby!
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Originally posted by moshkito moshkito wrote:

Hi,

In my days in Santa Barbaric, it was mostly Led Zep ... by a mile and a half ... they sold out the local concert hall ... while that loud other band, had to have a 2nd and 3rd band on the bill, mostly left overs, to get enough folks on to it.

One more detail, and this kinda came from my girlfriend a few years later ... Led Zep was sexy for the ladies ... BS was not! BS was more for fan boys that like loud music that supposedly meant something!

AND ... it is not likely that you have heard the bootlegs du jour at the time, and there were 5 or 6 of them "major ones" from Led Zep ... and NONE from BS ... the rest were all PF, Dylan and GD bootlegs!

I think that should just about say it all!

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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue

Do it and my vote will definitely shift from Sabbath to LZ.  I don't think anything Sabbath did post '73 (Sabotage+ including the Dio albums which I can't stand) come close to Physical Graffiti Wink
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I stopped being interested in Black Sabbath after Never Say Die. This was because my interests shifted away from heavy metal / hard rock and towards progressive rock. Indeed, it was only fairly recently that I first listened to Heaven And Hell. It reminded me strongly of Rainbow. Although I love Rainbow Rising, it just wasn't Black Sabbath IMO.
 
 
 
 
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Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue

Do it and my vote will definitely shift from Sabbath to LZ.  I don't think anything Sabbath did post '73 (Sabotage+ including the Dio albums which I can't stand) come close to Physical Graffiti Wink

Let's move on, I gave up on this idea. 
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Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

Originally posted by The.Crimson.King The.Crimson.King wrote:

Originally posted by Cristi Cristi wrote:

I'm thinking to make a poll for 1975-1982 Zep vs Sabbath. Tell me if you think it's a good idea and I'll do it. Tongue

Do it and my vote will definitely shift from Sabbath to LZ.  I don't think anything Sabbath did post '73 (Sabotage+ including the Dio albums which I can't stand) come close to Physical Graffiti Wink

Let's move on, I gave up on this idea. 

I haven't LOL
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If you only consider Black Sabbath's Ozzy era, then I just can't vote.  Also since LZ is not currently active and hasn't been for quite a while, then I can only consider the Ozzy era albums (but don't forget 13).   Anyway, I love both bands equally and immensely. 

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Originally posted by Mascodagama Mascodagama wrote:

Sabbath every time. I know it's semi-heretical, but I never really dug Zep.

This. 
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much as the later...   would have gone with a both.. and in lieu of that .. favorite album.. damn..  rate LZ2 and the debut BS the same.. so favorite song from either of that era..

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For me, one led to the other.....I had a couple of Zep records as a tot and wanted to hear more like it, which led me to the Sabs, among a slew of others.  Is it bad form to leave the party with other than the one that brought you?
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