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Points: 4828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:39

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

...but basically any sound that comes out of your speakers can be recorded and saved on your computer

Yep! Should we make how-to-do-it mass-PM about it, so the nasty record company men don't get a hint?  I know how to do it...
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Points: 187 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:44
I preffered the mp3s too.

I'm glad I have broadband, thankfully it's relatively cheap in this country (where almost everything isn't). I'm curious too see the improvements on the streaming system.
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Points: 430 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 05:48
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Although a bit more work is needed there is not exactly hard to get hold of these files as mp 3 files...


How exactly?  I've done searches for prog mp3s, and they're not easy to come by.

I meant gettin hold of these files wich are now streamed and then coverting them to mp3



Two problems: First, I don't know how to do that.  Second, I can't stream the files (I'm still waiting for the Marillion playlist to load after an hour and a half).

Ah well that might be a flash problem..but basically any sound that comes out of your speakers can be recorded and saved on your computer



OK, I follow you.  However, that's assuming you can actually stream the entire song.  Other people have pointed out that it's not possible for everyone to do so.  Also, if the computer on which you're downloading doesn't have a sound card, you can't do it (that's not an unrealistic situation - while I was studying I had to use university computer labs in order to download the mp3s, which I would then take home and listen to). 

Just one question, has there been an official explanation as to why the streaming as opposed to downloading has been implemented?  I don't recall seeing one (and I'm too lazy to go back and check the previous posts in this thread ).




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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 07:42

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Just one question, has there been an official explanation as to why the streaming as opposed to downloading has been implemented?  I don't recall seeing one (and I'm too lazy to go back and check the previous posts in this thread ).


Streaming is less "illegal" for the record companies....
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 07:44
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Just one question, has there been an official explanation as to why the streaming as opposed to downloading has been implemented?  I don't recall seeing one (and I'm too lazy to go back and check the previous posts in this thread ).


Streaming is less "illegal" for the record companies....

Again this just shows the true foolishness of the record companies as it is the easiest thing in the world to make an mp3 out of streamed music.
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Points: 430 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 07:57
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:

Just one question, has there been an official explanation as to why the streaming as opposed to downloading has been implemented?  I don't recall seeing one (and I'm too lazy to go back and check the previous posts in this thread ).


Streaming is less "illegal" for the record companies....



Just out of interest, how many record companies have complained about the mp3s being here?
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Points: 596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:03

I think mp3 in this website was the main reason for news members engage in progressive rock and PA.
Probably PA will be not the most acessed prog-website now...
I have sent some mp3 to you guys because I wanted show the beauty that prog-rock is, presenting brazilian and south american progressive to people from other side of globe, and, of course, learn more about others prog genres from other places.
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Would it be illegal to have 30 second samples of songs for download?


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Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Would it be illegal to have 30 second samples of songs for download?


I think that might be legal, but 30 second samples of prog songs?  Somehow I don't think that's going to work very well.
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Originally posted by Bob Greece Bob Greece wrote:

Would it be illegal to have 30 second samples of songs for download?

unfourtnatly 30 second tidbits of prog songs would suck...like forexample 30 seconds of close to the edge or something...prog songs change to much to get a real taste of what the band is like..
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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:31

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:


Just out of interest, how many record companies have complained about the mp3s being here?

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-> InsideOut for AYREON

-> Cuneiforms

-> the other is a a private label record store
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:33
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:


Just out of interest, how many record companies have complained about the mp3s being here?

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-> InsideOut for AYREON

-> Cuneiforms

-> the other is a a private label record store

What i did not think that there was any AYREON tracks on this site? Atleast it was not the last time i checked
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Points: 4028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:38

I added the Streaming Apps in the GENRE pages also

http://www.progarchives.com/Progressive_rock_discography_LIS T.asp?style=28

So you can click relax and listen to only your favorite genre music

I will add a SHUFFLE link soon



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Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

What i did not think that there was any AYREON tracks on this site? Atleast it was not the last time i checked

I had to removed them 1 year ago
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Points: 3254 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:42
Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

What i did not think that there was any AYREON tracks on this site? Atleast it was not the last time i checked

I had to removed them 1 year ago

But then they allow it if they where streamed?
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Points: 430 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:44
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

Originally posted by Citanul Citanul wrote:


Just out of interest, how many record companies have complained about the mp3s being here?

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-> InsideOut for AYREON

-> Cuneiforms

-> the other is a a private label record store

What i did not think that there was any AYREON tracks on this site? Atleast it was not the last time i checked



I've never seen any Ayreon tracks here.  If they had been here, I would have downloaded them .  Of course, the complaint could have come in before I joined.

I know you've probably considered this M@X, but couldn't you just remove the mp3s of those labels that have complained, and leave the rest here?  I would have thought that it would mean that only a small percentage of the bands featured here would be affected.  This means that people like me who can't stream the files would still have access to them (Marillion playlist still loading after 5 hours).


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Points: 596 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:44
Originally posted by maidenrulez maidenrulez wrote:

Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

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What i did not think that there was any AYREON tracks on this site? Atleast it was not the last time i checked

I had to removed them 1 year ago

Yes, I remember it. There was a topic about it..
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Originally posted by M@X M@X wrote:

The Streaming system will improve with time , thanks for your patience guys !

List of coming features:

  • Random playlist by genre, bands ( radio like )
  • Stream only new mp3 added
  • Create a playlist
  • Share your playlist
  • Stream While you navigate through site
  • ...

Please post any suggestions

I am enthused about the above considered improvements.  Like the vast majority here, I personally preferred downloads.  I used WinMediaPlayer and RealJukebox to create playlists, etc.

Random playlist / genre playlist / playlist by date-added / custom playlists are all great features.  I would add playlist by year released as well, if practical.  Of course, that could be prone to error what with re-releases and compilations, but it could work.

For those of us who listen @ work with T1/T2 or @ home with high-speed internet, all of this is great.  I will probably benefit from it in the long run.  I do, however, sympathize with those who are stuck on dialup and don't have a desk job with access to broadband technology.

On a related note, I had been downloading MP3s from here alphabetically for the last month... I had merely gotten through most of the A's. :-(



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AMAZON DOES 30 SECOND CLIPS, BUT NOT VERY IDEAL FOR Prog.
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Points: 4828 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 05 2005 at 08:50

Originally posted by Prog-Brazil Prog-Brazil wrote:

I think mp3 in this website was the main reason for news members engage in progressive rock and PA.
Probably PA will be not the most acessed prog-website now...

Well... Actually I never downloaded a single mp3 from the site.  I try to seek information about some obscurer bands that might interest me, and I never managed to find any mp3's from those bands.

But I feel very sorry for those who liked that feature.  So you can't stream music to your computer, unless you have a broadband? How does that feature work?
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