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Poll Question: Deep in The Motherload Vs. Burning Rope
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 00:53
Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

I like "the lady lies" better than either one but that's just me. I voted for "burning rope." This is probably the most under rated Genesis album. Some of the hardcore prog fans complain that it's mostly short songs but most of Lamb is mostly shorter songs too.

good point but of course Lamb has an obscure concept that no one understands so is obviously superiorWink

But at least, LLDOB had Steve Hackett playing on the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 00:57
Burning Rope gets the vote. Motherlode is also excellent.

ATTWT is, dare I say it, a very underated album. Down & Out is my favourite song from the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 01:18
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

I like "the lady lies" better than either one but that's just me. I voted for "burning rope." This is probably the most under rated Genesis album. Some of the hardcore prog fans complain that it's mostly short songs but most of Lamb is mostly shorter songs too.

good point but of course Lamb has an obscure concept that no one understands so is obviously superiorWink

But at least, LLDOB had Steve Hackett playing on the album.

it feels like a very 'keyboardy' album though. I tend to think Hackett's finest work with Genesis was on the two earlier albums.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 01:21
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Burning Rope gets the vote. Motherlode is also excellent.

ATTWT is, dare I say it, a very underated album. Down & Out is my favourite song from the album.

agreed . I prefer it to most other Genesis albums
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 01:34
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Burning Rope gets the vote. Motherlode is also excellent.

ATTWT is, dare I say it, a very underated album. Down & Out is my favourite song from the album.
Incredibly underrated. The period from Trick to this one was amazing. My favorite three by the band. I love the Gabriel stuff but Genesis was never better from 75-78.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 06:30
Originally posted by fudgenuts64 fudgenuts64 wrote:

Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Burning Rope gets the vote. Motherlode is also excellent.

ATTWT is, dare I say it, a very underated album. Down & Out is my favourite song from the album.

Incredibly underrated. The period from Trick to this one was amazing. My favorite three by the band. I love the Gabriel stuff but Genesis was never better from 75-78.



I agree. Trick to ATTWT (including Seconds Out) was the best era of the band overall imo. Best musicianship, best production, best live performances.

I would have loved for Hackett to have stuck around for another album. An album fusing the best elements of WAW and ATTWT would have potentially topped Trick for me.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 07:24
^Hey right on good call, 'Down and Out' is excellent too and no other could fit better as the opening track of ATTWT, and what a great Banks' work at the final part of it. And I'm being convinced here to buy ATTWT again Tongue, it was the very first Genesis album I knew, the very first I learned to love and the one I most listened to those great melodies ('many too many' times) during those 'golden years'...


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 08:23
Originally posted by iluvmarillion iluvmarillion wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Originally posted by Prog_Traveller Prog_Traveller wrote:

I like "the lady lies" better than either one but that's just me. I voted for "burning rope." This is probably the most under rated Genesis album. Some of the hardcore prog fans complain that it's mostly short songs but most of Lamb is mostly shorter songs too.

good point but of course Lamb has an obscure concept that no one understands so is obviously superiorWink

But at least, LLDOB had Steve Hackett playing on the album.

this is how I feel---lacks a forth player--playing amazing guitar---put Hackett in there, take that Nemo and Joe song off and add two Hackett songs you have another great album to finish the trilogy of Trick, W&WWink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 10:25
'Rope, of course.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 20 2014 at 10:34
Originally posted by Blacksword Blacksword wrote:

Burning Rope gets the vote. Motherlode is also excellent.

ATTWT is, dare I say it, a very underated album. Down & Out is my favourite song from the album.

It is an underated album, especially by Genesis fans. I rank it up there with Dark Side of the Moon, OK Computer and You all Look the same to me

Collins voice is so sweet on most of the songs it puts other vocalists to shame. Rutherford takes the role of Hackett and exaggerates his soaring electric guitar sound. 

This would have been some album if Hackett had put his classical mark on it. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 02:48
Deep In The Motherlode is one of the best trio Genesis songs. Burning Rope just doesn't do it for me.
 
My 2 cents on the album is what a disappointment as a whole. Some material is worthwhile, while others feel like filler--a first on a Genesis single disc, but unfortunately not the last by a long shot.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 03:19
Being a vinyl obsessive, I have a 7" of Many Too Many..... The other side has The Day The Light Went Out and also Vancouver. Two 3 minute tunes that certainly fit on ATTWT, for sure. Such a great album, really.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 06:17
I think I'll climb on the burning rope. Big smile

Originally posted by Matthew _Gill Matthew _Gill wrote:

It is an underated album, especially by Genesis fans. I rank it up there with Dark Side of the Moon, OK Computer and You all Look the same to me

Collins voice is so sweet on most of the songs it puts other vocalists to shame. Rutherford takes the role of Hackett and exaggerates his soaring electric guitar sound. 

This would have been some album if Hackett had put his classical mark on it. 

Follow You Follow Me was the first Genesis song I ever heard, but this album does have some rather cheesy songs.  Genesis was finding their path to pop success.  It's amongst the later Genesis albums that I still like after all these years.


Edited by Slartibartfast - October 22 2014 at 06:20
Released date are often when it it impacted you but recorded dates are when it really happened...

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 07:33

I've always dug ATTWT - it sounds like no other Genesis album.....one foot quickly leaving the past and one bolting for the future.  I'd say I've played it more than any other post-Gabriel album over the years.....maybe due to burn out of W&W as a kid and never really being bowled over by Trick. 

Undertow is probably my favorite Banks track in the Genesis catalog.  Burning Rope and the Ballad of Big are some of the last true prog An underrated album (wouldn't call it a classic, rather an overlooked gem....but I know many Genesis fans who don't even own it).
I like to feel the suspense when you're certain you know I am there.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 22 2014 at 12:32
Two fantastic songs.
I vote for "Motherlode".
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 23 2014 at 21:24

Burning Rope.

When he rides, my fears subside.
For darkness turns once more to light.
Through the skies, his white horse flies.
To find a land beyond the night.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 24 2014 at 09:08
Another one for Burning Rope
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