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    Posted: October 28 2014 at 17:08
Stewart Bell from Citizen Cain have his first solo album out.

Promo videos and samples are here. Possibly an artist that belongs somewhere in here?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: October 29 2014 at 14:23
Proggnosis has him: http://www.proggnosis.com/ARTIST_DETAIL.aspx?AID=12041.
 
The Antechamber Of Being (Part 1)
The much anticipated debut solo album from Citizen Cain’s main composer and keys player Stewart Bell is a prog rock opera featuring five vocalists; Simone Rossetti, Arjen Anthony Lucassen, Bekah Mhairi Comrie, Phil Allen and Stewart himself.
 

The story is based on his own experiences as a lifelong lucid dreamer and follows the adventures of a young boy as he masters the ability to control his dreams.
This epic concept album chronicles the key events in his life, the weird synchronicities, strange
experiences and profound questions that naturally arise when one grows up living in the twin worlds of dream and real.
 
The first in a trilogy “The Antechamber Of Being” will appeal not only to existing Citizen Cain fans but also to a much wider audience as Stewart delves into elements of prog metal, experiments with new soundscapes and brings his unique storytelling gift to the lyrics, in which he also shares his extensive knowledge of lucid dreaming.
 
The compact disc or digital version as well as the accompanying storybook are available from the shop: http://www.citizencain.nl/shop (for wholesale enquiries: [email protected]). The continuous 74 minutes of musical evolution, powerful songs, recurring themes and complex instrumental sections will be sure to please any lover of progressive music while the intriguing, amusing and, at times, touching storyline may even inspire the listener to take control of their own subconscious mind and experience lucid dreaming for themselves…
 

Track Listing -
1.  Decoherence (13:22)
 (i) Nothing – part 1 (Ex Nihilo Nihil Fit)
 (ii) – Cupboard Of Fear – part 1
 (iii) – First Lesson
 (iv) – Second Lesson
 (v) – The Gift of Lucid Dreaming
 
2. A World Without Limits (8:30)
 (i) – Revelation
 (ii) – Adventures Of An Oneiranaut
 (iii) – Awaken In Your Dreams
 
3. Projections (10:31)
 (i) – Hypnagogic Portal
 (ii) – Entanglement – part 1
 (iii) – Parallel Girl
 (iv) – False Awakening
 (v) – Cupboard Of Fear – part 2
 (vi) –  Entanglement – part 2
 
4. The Breach (5:20)
 (i) – Why?
 (ii) – The Shooting Star Child – part 1
 
5. The Antechamber Of Being (16:11)
 (i) – Nothing – part 2 (Outwith Time)
 (ii) – Dream Signs
 (iii) – Cupboard Of Fear – part 3
 (iv) – Bellilin
 (v) – Nothing – part 3 (Outwith Space)
 (vi) – The Gift of Lucid Dying
 
6. Convergence (9:02)
 (i) – Entanglement – part 3
 (ii) – The Shooting Star Child – part 2
 
7. Full Circle (10:58)
 (i) – Cupboard Of Fear – part 4
 (ii) – Asleep Or Dead
 (iii) – Awaken In Your Death
 (iv) – Nothing – part 4 (HΨ = 0)
 
Seventy four minutes of music!
 
http://citizencain.nl/song-previews/ (one minute montages of each song as high quality mp3).
The album can be downloaded in full for £7.99: http://citizencain.nl/shop/test-download-album/, or the album can be bought as a CD for £10: http://citizencain.nl/shop/the-antechamber-of-being-cd-pre-order-sept-14/.
 
 
 
 
Yes...This belongs on here somewhere for sure. More samples will obviously be needed though to decide exactly where. Embarrassed
 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 05 2014 at 12:49
Thanks for sharing this Windhawk :)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 08:51
on HP charts
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 10:12
LOL! And Neo too: http://progfreak.com/Stewart-Bell-160152.html?path=pa/recent. Looks like this is going to be a popular release!! Tongue
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 10:26
Yes, we are having a friendly debate Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 16:52
hi guys, im a bit lost here, what are "HP charts" and "Neo too"?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 17:05
"Charts" refers to our voting process for admission of a band (or not). HP is Heavy Prog and Neo is Neo-prog, the two areas where we feel SB's music mostly fits.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 17:21
i see, thanks Aapatsos. I'm not sure why this isn't just going under Citizen Cain. I (Stewart Bell) am the main composer in the band, Phil Allen reprises his usual role on guitar, (only Cyrus is missing) and this is the next step musically for C-Cain hence my choice of the name "Citizen Cain's Stewart Bell". Musically it's the same as C-Cain so should be the same category...?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 17:34
Stewart, it is common practice to evaluate releases under a different name as separate "entities"/artists. My impression was that this is a solo album rather than a new CC album.

(I think) this album has (slightly?) different musical direction than CC and therefore might be best to include it as such.

However, if this is going to be a "permanent" shift for the band then please let me know and I will discuss with the team - and double-check site's rules.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 08 2014 at 18:12
Of course it belongs in the same category as Citizen Cain, however the category for Citizen Cain is wrong IMO, it should be Neo-prog and not symphonic progressive (of course Neo prog basicaly equals symph, just different). Anyway I'm curious as to how it gets added.
 
For CreepyJohn it's a natural pogression of Citizen Cain, and I guess the fans will follow suit, and even the non-fan enthousiasts and occasional listeners will consider it a natural evolution proces for the band, howevere the name is different being C-Cain's Stewart Bell, which implies a solo effort from one of it's member's.
 
I would add it thusly: Add it as a 'new' band, (and place it under the same subgenre (I would put both in Neo-progressive as that's the most logical place for both, as that's what it is)) and add a paragraph to Citizen Cain, explaining that's how it currently proceeds, and add the obvious C-Cain origin as the first part of this album's band biography.
 
It could of course also be added as a C-Cain album, but I don't know if there are ownership issues regarding the name Citizen Cain, as Cyril was the founder of the band, soi that could be an issue preventing the album be released under that name. But that I do not know, and honestly it has a different Band name (woner how Xitizen Xain was dealt with, but I guess thαt's up to artistic freedom of the band how to write it's own name/brand)
 
anyway, I'm curious and slightly excited about the album.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2014 at 12:08
thanks aapatsos, as long as there is a clear link from the main C-Cain page I guess it will do the trick. It just seems to me that to have spent all these years running C-Cain and building up an audience then to have to start from scratch on here would be a tad annoying. As said before the change of name is simply to inform people that it is C-Cain minus Cyrus. (incidentally he is calling his solo work something entirely different - Arculus)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2014 at 12:14
I agree with the "Neo" category Tuscon. I also covered some of your points in the post above. The brief name change to Xitizen Xain was only used on the album cover and website at the record company's command. It would have complicated things otherwise I guess. Thanks for your advice.

(if you do get around to buying the album please buy from our website, it's always better for us :) Digital version is available there also)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 09 2014 at 13:14
Even in the band's own site the album is refered as a solo project with no clear references of it being some sort of CC's continuation, at least at the moment, strong links with CC are not an adequate reason to add the album in CC's discography, separate entry should be the proper choice IMO, no matter the team which will accept the project.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 12 2014 at 06:10
And now removed from the Heavy Prog chart, so the initial evaluation will be caried out for inclusion in Neo Prog.  Thumbs Up
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2014 at 10:40
any news on this album getting included on here? It would be nice if people could rate and review it? Thanks, Stewart
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2014 at 11:52
one yes vote for inclusion in Neo and two members left for voting, just a little patience needed...Wink
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 17 2014 at 15:42
make these 'yes' votes two, one more member from the team remaining to express his opinion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2014 at 14:24
cleared unanimously by the Neo team, addition coming within the next days.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: November 18 2014 at 16:26
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