Yes Relayer Steven Wilson Remix

barrows wrote: Wow!  It is hard to understand the SW hate present in this thread. ...

I don't think it is hate, as much as it might be considered that SW thinks he has a better say in determining what is "progressive" based on his choices of music to help clean up. However, I have not heard him use the word "progressive" at all for these situations!!!!

The fact is, that no one was going to clean up YES, GG or KC ... and he got Robert to understand things even better than before, if I am not mistaken.

Again, my feeling has been all along that it doesn't matter who re-mixes, or re-masters these things ... the original will always remain just another version of the same piece of music, and digital or not, you can not erase the human element and neither can you make it "better", and too many folks are deceiving themselves via the commercial top ten definition and understanding of things.

It's a matter of time, and digital will surpass any LP ever made. Plain and simple! Nobody ever thought we would reach the moon or that we would even be flying, or that there would be a tunnel under the English channel.

Times change.

Things change.

And one day there was a woman Prime Minister in a country that thought women were secondary citizens and the comments in the media were unbelievable ... yhou would think women were animals!

barrows wrote: ...  So far, the work I have heard him (Crimson and Yes) do has been exemplary. ...

I won't disagree.

However, that's like saying that the version of Bernstein of The rite of Spring, is better than Stokowski, which is better than Osawa's which is better than Leinsdorf which is better than Karajhan's!

That's crazy.

WHAT you are hearing that has changed from the original, has absolutely NOTHING to do with the original feeling that came through the music, something that is very specific and peculiar to that piece, and is the "secret" that keeps that piece alive for so long and appreciated even after hundreds of years!

You must see that!

Steven's touch is nice, there is no doubt about it, and it is quite visible in the Porcupine Tree stuff and in his own albums ... but I think that he should concentrate on his own work, and let the stravinsky's of rock, or the tchaikovsky's of rock live and die by their own hand. If YES, is not intelligent enough to stop playing with lesser musicians and take care of their work, then ... that's that. If Robert is not smart enough to realize that the stuff sitting in the vaults is a volcano waiting to explode ... then, that's that! If Gentle Giant is not strong enough to know what they can do with their work for another generation ... there is nothing you can tell them that will help them listen!

In the end, the electronic versions will survive, because the vinyl's time is over ... so us crying over the horse carriages of 100 years ago, will, eventually, sound stupid and bizarre!