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    Posted: December 06 2014 at 00:59
Ok so. I'm sure this isn't the first song, nor the last, to have a strange resemblance to King Crimson's massive epic Starless. But i feel that this song does one hell of a job working off of the structure and build that Starless uses. 

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The guitar and heavy bass groove leading into a sax solo, the repeticious build up towards it, the softer opening. Just something that came up on one of my early listens to the brilliant KD album. 


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I had not thought of that, but I'm looking fwd to relistening to see what you mean. I haven't listened to the album but twice so far.
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I can see the resemblance, there's definitely a KC vibe to certain parts of Coffins on Io.
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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

The guitar and heavy bass groove leading into a sax solo, the repeticious build up towards it, the softer opening. Just something that came up on one of my early listens to the brilliant KD album. 


do you mean "KC song" or is it just me?
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No. 

While listening to the brilliant Kayo Dot album, the characteristics i described reminded me of Starless. 
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Very nice song, and the King Crimson influence shows, but I don't hear "Starless" as you do. 

KC did a remarkable "Starless" during their last tour, I'm looking forward to live material from the Frippmeister!
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Opeth have a couple songs that are reminiscent initially: "Burden" and "Faith in Others." Didn't make the connection when I heard that Kayo Dot album a couple months ago, but I hear it now. Nothing will ever top Starless, that's for sure Approve
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Points: 16148 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 06 2014 at 16:23
Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Very nice song, and the King Crimson influence shows, but I don't hear "Starless" as you do. 

KC did a remarkable "Starless" during their last tour, I'm looking forward to live material from the Frippmeister!
 
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I much more enjoy the longer excursions than shorter pieces.



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Originally posted by cstack3 cstack3 wrote:

Very nice song, and the King Crimson influence shows, but I don't hear "Starless" as you do. 

KC did a remarkable "Starless" during their last tour, I'm looking forward to live material from the Frippmeister!
I saw the song list for the upcoming Crimso live album, and Starless is on it!
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Originally posted by Friday13th Friday13th wrote:

Opeth have a couple songs that are reminiscent initially: "Burden" and "Faith in Others." Didn't make the connection when I heard that Kayo Dot album a couple months ago, but I hear it now. Nothing will ever top Starless, that's for sure Approve


Agreed, Starless is pretty special.

I see the resemblance you speak of though. Not nearly as long as Starless, and obviously a completely different style of music, but the structure has the similarities.

I believe Koffing received writing credits on that song also. Wink


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Originally posted by Horizons Horizons wrote:

Ok so. I'm sure this isn't the first song, nor the last, to have a strange resemblance to King Crimson's massive epic Starless. But i feel that this song does one hell of a job working off of the structure and build that Starless uses. 

Thoughts? 

The guitar and heavy bass groove leading into a sax solo, the repeticious build up towards it, the softer opening. Just something that came up on one of my early listens to the brilliant KD album. 

Interesting way of looking at it. A pretty loose interpretation, I'm not sure I'd go so far as you, but interesting. Any excuse to listen to Library Subterranean again!


Originally posted by Metalmarsh89 Metalmarsh89 wrote:

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I believe Koffing received writing credits on that song also. Wink

Hahaha. Love that they have a sense of humour about these things.
 
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