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SteveG 
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:44 |
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We all know the history of these two albums. Do they stand on their own without Roger Waters, yes or no?
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:49 |
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All I will say is that the live version of "Sorrow" off of Delicate Sound of Thunder is one of Floyd's best tracks. That alone makes Momentary Lapse worth it by virtue of having the studio version of the track.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 18:53 |
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I love The Division Bell! I haven't listened to Momentary Lapse in a long time so I won't state an opinion, but I've thought about spinning it recently.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:01 |
AMLOR: I do not care too much for Side A, although it's not without a few fine moments. Side B is outstanding. The Bell: a little bit of TL;DL. Some of the lyrics is cringeworthy.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:11 |
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Don't like them.....but I do like Endless River.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:14 |
^Endless River! Bah Humbug!
Just kidding. Merry X-mass FF.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:27 |
 Lear'sFool wrote:
All I will say is that the live version of "Sorrow" off of Delicate Sound of Thunder is one of Floyd's best tracks. That alone makes Momentary Lapse worth it by virtue of having the studio version of the track. |
Hearing "Sorrow" in concert on the Division Bell tour was the undeniable highlight of that show. It's not a particularly fantastic song, but Gilmour gets the most out of his guitar tone on that track, and it really roars when it's cranked up in a stadium. I was a fan of Momentary Lapse, but nowadays I just think it's a decent album. Same with Division Bell I guess. It's not REALLY Pink Floyd to me.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:31 |
SteveG wrote:
^Endless River! Bah Humbug!
Just kidding. Merry X-mass FF. |
Thanks Steve.  All 3 pale in comparison to Final Cut, the true last Floyd album 
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:32 |
Could not think of the Floyd repertoire without these two great albums. The Division Bell the better of the two. Oh ...and Amused To Death by RW 
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 19:36 |
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It's not REALLY Pink Floyd to me.
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 my biggest issues with those. Perhaps unfairly judged as such, not strictly on their merits, but hey.. it comes with the territory of being a band OF that stature. There is something to the notion of tarnishing a reputation. Led Zep knew it and quit and kept theirs intact, The Who didn't (of ALL bands that should have known that personal chemistry and the combination of those talents was KEY to their sound, output, and earlier succcess) until they tried to keep on and saw they were not the same band and shelved it for many years. Floyd surely saw it, but IMO obviously were more impressed with money rolling in, all the MTV fans getting into them not knowing the name and mystique yet perhaps not knowing they were being served a steaming pile of sh*t and thus cashing in on that reputation rather than preserving it.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 20:44 |
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Division Bell over Momentary Lapse......
Pulse over Delicate Sound......
The thing I really loved with Bell is that there were a lot more subtle elements of 'old' Floyd within the then modern context. Similarly how Endless River incorporates lots of nods to their past. I feel AMLOR was updated for the 80's, and more like a Gilmour solo work. To me, both Levin and Pratt filled the bass role admirably, so I don't miss Waters much. That's not saying I don't admire Waters, I do, but things are the way they are, and I appreciate both sides of the coin.
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 21:08 |
Really used to like MLOR but it has not held up over the years. Never liked Division Bell. When it came out I was going to rush right out and get it just because it was Floyd. A friend had it already and played it for me. 
Edited by bhikkhu - December 16 2014 at 21:08
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Posted: December 16 2014 at 23:53 |
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I do like them. The Division Bell much more than AMLOR, though. For me, DB is as good, if different, as most of the albums on their "prime"... I might actually rate it as my 3rd favourite Floyd album, just under Wish You Were Here and Animals (yes, even over Dark Side). AMLOR has some songs I really love too, though, as "On the Turning Away" and "Yet Another Movie", both of which, hoever, I like much more on their Delicate Sound of Thunder versions.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 09:37 |
They sort of stand on their own as some sort of middle aged, washed up rock performed pleasantly enough. Next to the massive legacy of Waters-Floyd, it's very incongruous. The only bitterness in DB seems to be directed at Waters, which is sort of interesting in its own way but not very ambitious or inspired.
I think part of the problem is Floyd were already rather 'mature' and stately even in their prime, so slowing down and mellowing down even more didn't help their sound. Against that, if you compare Snakes & Arrows with prime Rush, at least prime Rush could be said to have overdosed on adrenaline and the former album offered a different dimension of the band that rounded their career nicely. Floyd didn't really have that space to fill up. Had they gone all Motorhead on us (not likely, but just hypothesising), possibly that wouldn't have gone down well either. They had to come up with another big bang concept album to follow DSOTM through Wall and they didn't really have it in them.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 11:26 |
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My interest in PF ends with Animals. There was a time that The Wall had some love, but that faded. And to be honest, the only one I listen to anymore with any consistency is Meddle. No the last 2 just annoyed me.
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Posted: December 17 2014 at 12:36 |
Lear'sFool wrote:
All I will say is that the live version of "Sorrow" off of Delicate Sound of Thunder is one of Floyd's best tracks. That alone makes Momentary Lapse worth it by virtue of having the studio version of the track. |
You said it! Easily my favorite song off the album (which I admit I played frequently when it was new), followed by "One Slip."
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 06:02 |
HolyMoly wrote:
It's not REALLY Pink Floyd to me.
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It's Gilmour's Floyd basically, with some Wright's magic touch. Music (for the sake of it) will never be the same to everybody, just for the record.
Edited by Rick Robson - December 18 2014 at 06:04
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 06:35 |
I think these Gilmour-era PF albums stand quite on their own, but they are not on the bottom of my ranking list. I don't considerThe Endless River a Gilmour-era PF-album, but I would rank it on par with A Momentary Lapse of Reason (11, 12 or 13).
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 07:27 |
AMLOR: Think it was an OK effort, even though i dont listen to it anymore
The Bell: Never got me
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Posted: December 18 2014 at 07:33 |
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Yes, they hold their own, and I find them actually better than anything they put out between 1967 and 1970, and between 1977 and 1984.
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