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    Posted: December 20 2014 at 14:38
Siouxsie and the Banshees vs. Television

Siouxsie and the Banshees were one of the first "goth rock" bands, sporting the confident vocals and theatrics of Siouxsie Sioux and the guitar brilliance of John McGeoch, they went on to inspire the Cure to go in the goth rock direction.


From the New York scene, Television were known for the dazzling guitar work of Tom Verlaine and Richard Lloyd. With their album Marquee Moon, they have continued to inspire guitarists to this day.



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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:09
Hmm, tough call.  I think I'll go with Siouxsie, because how many other people can you say singlehandedly invented both a musical subgenre and a fashion statement?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:12
what sub-genere?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:15
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:15
I'm just a niouxbie when it comes to Siouxsie. Nothing's really taken hold yet. As for Television I love the Marquee Moon album. Verlaine's solo on the title track is a classic example of how to craft a great solo without a lot of chops. Sometimes when I'm stuck for a solo I think about that song and it sometimes helps me overcome my suckitude.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:15
Whoa, I'm listening to The Scream right now so I'm surprised to see S&TB come up. For the record the US band I'd compare them to the most would probably be early Christian Death. (as fronted by the late Rozz Williams)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:27
^Christian Death will have their chance. I didn't place them with Siouxsie mostly because they have more in common with Bauhaus aesthetically than the Banshees. Plus, Banshees vs. CD? The vote would be too easy. Not that there's not a fair share of that in the polls already.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 15:32
Yeah, CD only have two really good albums whereas S&TB have a pretty consistent discography despite the drastic changes in style.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:41

I do really like Television and Marquee Moon.  But, this is Siouxsie and the Banshees we are talking about - originally a punk band that produced one of the first (and best) post punk albums slightly dodgy second album that i adore (ok so not quite as much as the Scream) split up employed one of the best guitarist ever and a thumping drummer.  Then continued to produce ground breaking albums and influenced so many bands.

anyway, you could put them up against just about any band and I wouldn't waver.  Oh and did I say that Siouxsie is a godess?

so my vote goes to the Americans......only joking.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 17:48
Siouxsie and the Banshees are one of my favourite non-prog bands (and have been for quite a long time). I also love Siouxsie's voice, so distinctive and different from the hordes of indistinguishable, saccharine-sweet sopranos that many prog fans seem to prefer.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 20 2014 at 23:17
Television is amazing. 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 00:50
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 03:48
If the Television song Polymorphia posted is indicative of their style, I'm definitely voting for Siouxsie. Surprised the OP didn't post the video for Spellbound by the way.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 05:32
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 05:38
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 05:45
Originally posted by Toaster Mantis Toaster Mantis wrote:

If the Television song Polymorphia posted is indicative of their style, I'm definitely voting for Siouxsie. Surprised the OP didn't post the video for Spellbound by the way.




I don't follow. The Television song posted was See No Evil? Confused


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 05:50
The two bands are so different in sound I find it an apples-and-oranges situation, right now I just happen to subjectively prefer S&TB. It's possible that if this poll was posted half a year ago or so I'd be voting for Television instead. Can understand why a lot of people are voting for them anyway.

I know it sounds rather silly, but the two groups' signature styles aspire towards very different creative priorities even if they use some of the same ingredients and techniques. Maybe one of them fulfils their respective goals more successfully if you analyze the music in details, or you could argue that what one is aspiring towards accomplishing either more interesting if not objectively better, but that discussion would require a lot of more abstract aesthetic theorizing I'm not really in the mood for right now.

That's the reason I said earlier in this thread that it'd be much more interesting pitting S&TB against Christian Death. An album like Only Theatre of Pain has the similar over-the-top noisy psychedelic sound and fantastic (or at least kinda cartoonish) horror/sci-fi aesthetic as the Banshees' early records, whereas Television's much closer to "normal" rock music and deal with more realistic themes in their music. The latter might be more serious by most estimations, but it also scratches a rather different itch.


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 06:31
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I'm just a niouxbie when it comes to Siouxsie. Nothing's really taken hold yet. As for Television I love the Marquee Moon album. Verlaine's solo on the title track is a classic example of how to craft a great solo without a lot of chops. Sometimes when I'm stuck for a solo I think about that song and it sometimes helps me overcome my suckitude.


I'm stealing the word 'suckitude' for my future memoires, Steve. You are my inspiration.

Oh and I went with SiouxsieHeart
Love Marquee Moon though, but it's 1 great album up against 5. No contest.

 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 06:43
Originally posted by Guldbamsen Guldbamsen wrote:

Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

I'm just a niouxbie when it comes to Siouxsie. Nothing's really taken hold yet. As for Television I love the Marquee Moon album. Verlaine's solo on the title track is a classic example of how to craft a great solo without a lot of chops. Sometimes when I'm stuck for a solo I think about that song and it sometimes helps me overcome my suckitude.


I'm stealing the word 'suckitude' for my future memoires, Steve. You are my inspiration.

Oh and I went with SiouxsieHeart
Love Marquee Moon though, but it's 1 great album up against 5. No contest.

 


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: December 21 2014 at 06:45
Sounds like an Ozrics album from the mid 90s to me...
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