bhikkhu wrote: micky wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: ¿Must I say for who i vote? Iván hahah. not unless you can honesty tell us you have EVER voted against anything Genesis related. Well...  except for the infamous most soporific..  Camel v. Genesis poll. Dude there is a reason M@X considered doing a IVAN bobblehead promotion of you dressed in goddamned PG flower outfit

Genesis.

Bands like Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Pink Floyd and Tull, can only be beaten by one of them

Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: Bands like Genesis, Yes, King Crimson, Pink Floyd and Tull, can only be beaten by one of them Probably Genesis and Yes can only be beaten by Genesis and yes. This is the only Forum in which ELP has  always received hatred

Probably because this forum has more younger members than most prog sites. ELP tends not to resonate with the younger crowd.

Moogtron III wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: This is the only Forum in which ELP has  always received hatred Is there really so much hatred against ELP?  I just checked the most recent ELP thread, the one with the ELP-Camel poll, and there I didn't see a lot of hate. It's true though that ELP doesn't stand up in popularity compared to the other bands of the so called 'big six'. That is totally undeserved, and I feel sorry that the first and only ELP album to appear in PA's top 100 is only at nr. 81.

because they have had pounded in their young little heads that ELP sucks.. ain't cool.. and face it. ELP really is NOT easy listening. We know full well that many of our world views, and obviously music world views can be shaped by the sh*t that gets pounded into our heads by society.  Besides unlike the sugar-coated easy listening of many groups. ELP can be a bit challenging. It is as much a curse to current popularity as it was to their immense popularity back in the day  when listeners wanted to be challenged and see bands do something different.

The root of it IMO is most people simply WOULD rather listen to guitarists w**king than keyboardists.. the other reason ELP got away with it was Emerson was able to do it on shear quantity of talent alone.  Didn't he win best keyboardist like 25 times in a 30 year span or some crazy like that. He was, for lack of better description, the Hendrix of the keyboard.  He totally blew apart the book of keyboard playing and opened the door for generations of keyboard players, both in technique and more importantly.. as centerpieces of a band's sound rather than just a supporting or background instrument.

I actually do like ELP very much, but somehow I'm OK with their highest rating album being at 81 or whatever. Mainlhy because I myself don't consider any of their albums to be perfect 5 star albums... they always have some really wonderful music, but they also have enough music that I don't care about, or even rather dislike, to make me like any album as a whole (actually, Genesis suffers from the same thing for me, though at a lesser extent).

Their pungent humour is one of the main things I like about ELP.

Rick Robson wrote: Moogtron III wrote: Ivan_Melgar_M wrote: This is the only Forum in which ELP has  always received hatred Is there really so much hatred against ELP?  I just checked the most recent ELP thread, the one with the ELP-Camel poll, and there I didn't see a lot of hate. It's true though that ELP doesn't stand up in popularity compared to the other bands of the so called 'big six'. That is totally undeserved, and I feel sorry that the first and only ELP album to appear in PA's top 100 is only at nr. 81.   Interesting data Moogtron,tbh I have never checked it out, and thanks to your info I think I never will, anyway I guess it's an unpersonal top list isn't it?

Oops! Poor Renaissance got steamrolled. What a shame