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Polymorphia
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Topic: The Fall vs. Devo Posted: December 28 2014 at 07:36 |
The Fall vs. Devo
The Fall started as a punk band and eventually evolved into something else entirely. With arrangements that threaten to collapse at any moment, but at points prove to be very tight, their defining factor was singer Mark E. Smith with his Joycean lyrics and announcer style voice, especially as members rotated several times. The became a favorite of John Peel, who said of them, "always the same... always different." Devo started on the concept of "de-volution" believing that man had devolved instead evolved. Sporting satirical lyrics, their surreal manner on stage and in interviews, and jagged arrangements, they became key figures in post-punk and new wave. |
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zappaholic
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 08:48 |
I've only heard one Fall album. Not going to investigate further. Gotta go with my almost-homeboys here.
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Horizons
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 09:56 |
Just a question.
I don't read often, so i was curious was is implied by saying the lyricist of The Fall is Joycean? What characteristics did James Joyce have in his writing that was applied to lyricism?
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HolyMoly
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 10:34 |
I worship the Fall, so easy vote for me. The Devo's first three albums are really good, though. But The Fall is a Top 10 band for me.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 11:37 |
Boy, this is a tough one. Apples and oranges as with many of these posts. I think The Fall would be a better competition against Père Ubu by the way, both are eccentric garage rock groups that were categorized as "post-punk" despite predating the punk subculture really becoming a thing. Right down to the strong influences from Captain Beefheart's Magic Band.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:27 |
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SteveG
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 14:46 |
Pere Ubu (so, no vote)
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HolyMoly
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 16:27 |
Those curious about Mark E. Smith's unique lyrical style should check out this song - along with the link which lists and analyzes the lyrics. It's a thoroughly enriching and literary experience.
The Annotated Lyrics Edited by HolyMoly - December 28 2014 at 16:28 |
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Polymorphia
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Posted: December 28 2014 at 17:30 |
^Indeed.
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LearsFool
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Posted: December 29 2014 at 18:58 |
Both excellent bands in their own right. Tied it up for DEVO.
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akamaisondufromage
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Posted: December 30 2014 at 11:20 |
Oh no please don't make me chose! I love both of them and have seen both of them live. Devo changed my life and The Fall enriched it! I will have to go .......and think about it....urgh! |
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