Forum Home Forum Home > Progressive Music Lounges > Prog Recommendations/Featured albums
  New Posts New Posts RSS Feed - Red: King Crimson
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Events   Register Register  Login Login

Topic ClosedRed: King Crimson

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12
Author
Message
TradeMark0 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member


Joined: October 26 2014
Location: California
Status: Offline
Points: 109
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:06
SABB was good, but Red is one of my favorites. I've never heard an album quite like it.
Back to Top
Blacksword View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:11
Originally posted by Tom Ozric Tom Ozric wrote:

Red is much stronger than SaBB for my taste. I guess I go for the heavier sound......


Yeah, much prefer Red too. Altough it's not specifically the fact that it's heavier. I just prefer the songs. Fallen Angel & Starless are two of their best songs from any era, imo.
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
Back to Top
Padraic View Drop Down
Special Collaborator
Special Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: February 16 2006
Location: Pennsylvania
Status: Offline
Points: 31165
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:47
Originally posted by HolyMoly HolyMoly wrote:

LTIA > Red > SAAB

all essential albums but that's my preference.


This
Back to Top
hellogoodbye View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP member

Joined: August 29 2011
Location: Troy
Status: Offline
Points: 7251
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 14:34
Not really a preference among the magnificent seven. 
Back to Top
The Dark Elf View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar
VIP Member

Joined: February 01 2011
Location: Michigan
Status: Offline
Points: 12609
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 14:46
The title song is that annoying sort of KC piece that goes on for 5 or 6 minutes too long. I prefer "Fracture" which is more akin to the splendid instrumentals on LtiA. "The Night Watch" is in my top five as far as KC songs go, but I think Red is more cohesive and consistent overall. Might as well be a double album really. Two sides of one coin.
...a vigorous circular motion hitherto unknown to the people of this area, but destined
to take the place of the mud shark in your mythology...
Back to Top
richardh View Drop Down
Prog Reviewer
Prog Reviewer
Avatar

Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 25882
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 19 2015 at 15:14
I love it including Providence ( and I don't like improvs normally), '3 pieces' will always have a magic for me. Its also an album that all drummers should study.
Back to Top
Mascodagama View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: December 30 2006
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 5106
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 25 2015 at 12:24
Mistaken post edited out!


Edited by Mascodagama - January 25 2015 at 12:39
Back to Top
Kirillov View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 03 2011
Location: Wales
Status: Offline
Points: 700
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:19
Originally posted by Raff Raff wrote:

 I'd say that Starless and Bible Black is more dark and visceral, while Red is more polished. Personally, both are great favourites of mine, though I tend to play the former when I want to experience the rawer side of KC, and the latter when I'm in the mood for a bit more melody.


^This
Back to Top
Toaster Mantis View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: April 12 2008
Location: Denmark
Status: Offline
Points: 5898
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:31
I think Red has the best flow as a coherent album, but Starless and Bible Black has the stronger individual songs. Like I get the impression Red is supposed to be listened to in one long sitting without distractions, even if it isn't a concept album as such. I gain some extra enjoyment that way from how the tracks are sequenced and flow into each other. In the case of Starless..., it's more individual tracks I pull it out to listen to.

Does that make any sense?
"The past is not some static being, it is not a previous present, nor a present that has passed away; the past has its own dynamic being which is constantly renewed and renewing." - Claire Colebrook
Back to Top
irrelevant View Drop Down
Collaborator
Collaborator
Avatar
Honorary Collaborator

Joined: March 07 2010
Location: Australia
Status: Offline
Points: 13382
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:36
^ Does to me 
Back to Top
Michael678 View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 02 2013
Location: United States
Status: Offline
Points: 2466
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 06:36
i quite like this record; side 1 is awesome, side 2 not so much (curse you Providence!!!) but Starless still takes the cake. SaBB may need a few more listens, but the first 2 tracks, The Night Watch, and Fracture, are all fantastic, especially the latter.
Progrockdude
Back to Top
Rednight View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 18 2014
Location: Mar Vista, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 4807
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 10:22
A finer example of prog has yet to be commissioned!

Edited by Rednight - January 27 2015 at 10:24
Back to Top
Pastmaster View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: January 23 2015
Location: Spiderwood Farm
Status: Offline
Points: 1774
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 10:59
I really like both, but as far as favorite goes it all depends on my mood.
Back to Top
TeleStrat View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: December 27 2014
Location: Norwalk, CA
Status: Offline
Points: 9319
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 11:57
For one reason or another, my KC albums (and other classic prog albums) have sat idle for some time. Because of this thread I put on Red  to see if it was what I remembered it to be. Just finished side one and enjoyed it more than I thought I would.
Back in the day I bought a lot of albums in a short period of time and did not (could not) give many of them a lot of time to sink in.
I guess it was better to buy albums and not listen to them much than not buying albums at all.

Back to Top
KingCrInuYasha View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: September 26 2010
Location: USA
Status: Offline
Points: 1281
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 27 2015 at 12:11
Probably better. I'm not too fond of "We'll Let You Know" or "Starless And Bible Black", so Red has a more consistent flow.
He looks at this world and wants it all... so he strikes, like Thunderball!
Back to Top
Xonty View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 23 2013
Location: Cornwall
Status: Offline
Points: 1759
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2015 at 16:46
I used to be a huge fan of it, but rarely listen to it now. I kind of feel obliged to call a masterpiece though, despite the fact most of the songs are "only" great, and not mind-blowing like they should be (being a King Crimson record and all). At the moment, I prefer all of their first 5 studio albums to it and have for a while. On the other hand, the musicians are probably at the top of their game, and Starless possibly the greatest KC song ever written. Such a great balance of eerieness, airy melodies, time signatures, and Bill Bruford Smile

I'll hear it again tomorrow, to hopefully rekindle some interest and feel some much-needed nostalgia.


Edited by Xonty - January 31 2015 at 16:50
Back to Top
aglasshouse View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: August 27 2014
Location: riding the MOAB
Status: Offline
Points: 1505
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2015 at 17:23
I've always liked Red more. It's probably my favorite release from their discography. 
http://fryingpanmedia.com
Back to Top
Argonaught View Drop Down
Forum Senior Member
Forum Senior Member
Avatar

Joined: June 04 2012
Location: Virginia
Status: Offline
Points: 1413
Direct Link To This Post Posted: January 31 2015 at 17:50
To me, LTIA, SABB and Red are distinctively individual, but inseparable constituents of the Great KC trilogy. Red culminates the trilogy and therefore is somewhat more prominent, ostensibly. 
Thank you, Fripp, for our daily Prog (Red 39:54)
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <12

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down



This page was generated in 0.138 seconds.
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.