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TradeMark0
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:06 |
SABB was good, but Red is one of my favorites. I've never heard an album quite like it.
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Blacksword
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:11 |
Tom Ozric wrote:
Red is much stronger than SaBB for my taste. I guess I go for the heavier sound...... | Yeah, much prefer Red too. Altough it's not specifically the fact that it's heavier. I just prefer the songs. Fallen Angel & Starless are two of their best songs from any era, imo.
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Padraic
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 13:47 |
HolyMoly wrote:
LTIA > Red > SAAB
all essential albums but that's my preference. |
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hellogoodbye
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 14:34 |
Not really a preference among the magnificent seven.
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 14:46 |
The title song is that annoying sort of KC piece that goes on for 5 or 6 minutes too long. I prefer "Fracture" which is more akin to the splendid instrumentals on LtiA. "The Night Watch" is in my top five as far as KC songs go, but I think Red is more cohesive and consistent overall. Might as well be a double album really. Two sides of one coin.
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richardh
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Posted: January 19 2015 at 15:14 |
I love it including Providence ( and I don't like improvs normally), '3 pieces' will always have a magic for me. Its also an album that all drummers should study.
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Posted: January 25 2015 at 12:24 |
Mistaken post edited out!
Edited by Mascodagama - January 25 2015 at 12:39
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Kirillov
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:19 |
Raff wrote:
I'd say that Starless and Bible Black is more dark and visceral, while Red is more polished. Personally, both are great favourites of mine, though I tend to play the former when I want to experience the rawer side of KC, and the latter when I'm in the mood for a bit more melody.
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Toaster Mantis
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:31 |
I think Red has the best flow as a coherent album, but Starless and Bible Black has the stronger individual songs. Like I get the impression Red is supposed to be listened to in one long sitting without distractions, even if it isn't a concept album as such. I gain some extra enjoyment that way from how the tracks are sequenced and flow into each other. In the case of Starless..., it's more individual tracks I pull it out to listen to.
Does that make any sense?
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 04:36 |
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Michael678
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 06:36 |
i quite like this record; side 1 is awesome, side 2 not so much (curse you Providence!!!) but Starless still takes the cake. SaBB may need a few more listens, but the first 2 tracks, The Night Watch, and Fracture, are all fantastic, especially the latter.
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Rednight
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 10:22 |
A finer example of prog has yet to be commissioned!
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Pastmaster
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 10:59 |
I really like both, but as far as favorite goes it all depends on my mood.
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TeleStrat
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 11:57 |
For one reason or another, my KC albums (and other classic prog albums) have sat idle for some time. Because of this thread I put on Red to see if it was what I remembered it to be. Just finished side one and enjoyed it more than I thought I would. Back in the day I bought a lot of albums in a short period of time and did not (could not) give many of them a lot of time to sink in. I guess it was better to buy albums and not listen to them much than not buying albums at all.
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KingCrInuYasha
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Posted: January 27 2015 at 12:11 |
Probably better. I'm not too fond of "We'll Let You Know" or "Starless And Bible Black", so Red has a more consistent flow.
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Xonty
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Posted: January 31 2015 at 16:46 |
I used to be a huge fan of it, but rarely listen to it now. I kind of feel obliged to call a masterpiece though, despite the fact most of the songs are "only" great, and not mind-blowing like they should be (being a King Crimson record and all). At the moment, I prefer all of their first 5 studio albums to it and have for a while. On the other hand, the musicians are probably at the top of their game, and Starless possibly the greatest KC song ever written. Such a great balance of eerieness, airy melodies, time signatures, and Bill Bruford
I'll hear it again tomorrow, to hopefully rekindle some interest and feel some much-needed nostalgia.
Edited by Xonty - January 31 2015 at 16:50
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Posted: January 31 2015 at 17:23 |
I've always liked Red more. It's probably my favorite release from their discography.
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Argonaught
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Posted: January 31 2015 at 17:50 |
To me, LTIA, SABB and Red are distinctively individual, but inseparable constituents of the Great KC trilogy. Red culminates the trilogy and therefore is somewhat more prominent, ostensibly.
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