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SteveG 
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 11:29 |
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Which 1967 album represents a real concept album to you? Sgt. Pepper's surrogate band performing unrelated songs after the first three tracks, or Days of Future Passed which tried to link the events that make up a day in someone's life with an orchestral score placed between the songs and bookended with poetry?
Edited by SteveG - January 29 2015 at 12:11
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 11:58 |
Many think that SPLHCB was a concept album and the band's (Paul's) original intent was a series of connected songs by a fictitious band but the finished product was really neither. I think it's obvious that DOFP was intended to be and was written/recorded as one continuous story.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:00 |
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Days Of Future Passed. Sergent Pepper is NOT a concept album. Sgt Pepper's reprise is the finale of the fictitious live of the band, but there's A Day In The Life After. And many songs are unrelated. Days Of Future Passed have the whole concept of the day so it wins. But I prefer Sgt Pepper's in term of music.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:04 |
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Which was the first vaguely-a-concept concept album?
Dust Bowl Ballads by Woody Guthrie (1940)
Come Fly With Me by Frank Sinatra (1958)
Obviously DOFP is the first concept album.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:12 |
DoFP as a pretty more solid concept than "Sgt. Pepper's", which was probably not intended to follow a concept from start to finish.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:13 |
I also have to say DoFP, as before that there were many albums out there including a slight concept, or structured around an overall idea (Zappa's "Freak Out", The Kinks' "Face to Face AND of course "Sgt. Pepper's"), but Days of Future's Passed is the very first concept album that would pave the way for the rest to come.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:14 |
^I'm going to say that Dust Bowl Ballads was the first true concept album, ever, given it's era and topic. Woody Guthrie was simply ahead of his time in more ways than one.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:15 |
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Sgt. Pepper's unrelated songs after the first three tracks, and you have to ask?
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:16 |
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^I'm not every media source that says it is. Please redirect your question.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:24 |
 SteveG wrote:
^I'm not every media source that says it is. Please redirect your question. |
Sgt.  Pepper's unrelated songs after the first three tracks , and you have to ask? 
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:28 |
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:30 |
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what was the first concept song!!
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:31 |
SteveG wrote:
^It would be nice to see you try to impress me with something constructive, for a change, but I'm a little old to believe in miracles. |
Okay, here goes. Stop it, already!
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:32 |
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^Agreed. Move on.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:45 |
Well, I only know very little about Woody Guthrie, only a few songs a not a single whole album. He'd be a total stranger to me if not for his influence on Bob Dylan. I'll sure give it a listen though.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:50 |
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^Cool. But please keep in mind that this album contains turn of the century American folk songs, as their base, and will feel quite antiquated.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 12:54 |
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Well, Sgt Pepper was intended to be a live concert of the fictional band, but DOFP had a much stronger concept that you can easily hear. Gotta be THe Moodies
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 13:12 |
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Like everyone else, I go with Days. McCartney wanted Sgt. Peppers to be a concept, but the band quickly abandoned the project and we got a mix of an unfulfilled project with various songs. Could this be one of the first signs of the tensions that eventually broke them up? The Beatles were always about the songs anyway, and a whole concept album was something they had a very difficult time with. The concept of Days may be a simple one, the passing of the times of day, but they pursued it successfully. Both are classic five-star albums.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 13:17 |
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Days of Future Passed.
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Posted: January 29 2015 at 15:09 |
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The Moodies had the much more ironclad concept, so another vote there, but I can see what loose remnants of the Lonely Hearts Club Band concept ended up on the finished product. "A Day In The Life" would have to be the lonely hearts in the audience going back out into the world, their daily lives, while the rest of the record was this really experimental and trippy house band who were doing their very damnedest to take the poor souls on a musical journey, to forget about life for awhile.
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Which was the first real concept LP: SP or DOFP?
