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Dellinger 
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 Posted: February 05 2015 at 22:31 |
 Tom Ozric wrote:
Maybe it's Wakeman's Polymoog that he flogged to death on the album that gives it a block of cheeze, however, I give it the 4th star because I still think that it is very good for a 1978 Prog album.
I love the flanged bass sound Squire was using here. White sounded great, too.
Actually, there's not much I dislike on the album, and I thought the cover was an amusing idea. |
Now that you mention it, I guess you're right, there isn't much that I really dislike on this album either... perhaps I would have to listen to it again. But there isn't much that I really love either.
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Posted: February 08 2015 at 01:04 |
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Uuugh. The only thing I can stomach on this one is "Don't Kill The Whale." And even that isn't something I ever look to listen to. This is at the bottom of the Yes album barrel for me along with Open Your Eyes.
I don't mind the artwork. But I also don't particularly care about the artwork. :)
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Posted: February 08 2015 at 01:34 |
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It does have some good songs, but it's produced so poorly. Sounds like sh*t. And Then There Were Three by Genesis suffers this same problem, although that one kicks ass so I can forgive it and still give it 5/5. This one... 3/5. |
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Posted: February 14 2015 at 20:03 |
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Just heard this album and I love it. I prefer it over Relayer and GftO, but not by much. It's a very different type of record, more of a throwback to the pre-Fragile Yes. I'm also not noticing the terrible production that some see. Could it use a remaster? Sure, but I'm not offended by the sound as it is now.
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Posted: February 14 2015 at 22:35 |
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I'm also not noticing the terrible production that some see. Could it use a remaster? Sure, but I'm not offended by the sound as it is now. |
That, and the somewhat idiotic cover art - otherwise, one of the best Yes albums, IMO>
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Posted: February 14 2015 at 23:40 |
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A bit of a letdown after GFTO. Still, not bad. I think tensions within the band kept it from being as good as it could have been. A foreshadowing of the group splintering over the Drama album a bit later?
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 12:41 |
Dellinger wrote:
Tom Ozric wrote:
Maybe it's Wakeman's Polymoog that he flogged to death on the album that gives it a block of cheeze, however, I give it the 4th star because I still think that it is very good for a 1978 Prog album.
I love the flanged bass sound Squire was using here. White sounded great, too.
Actually, there's not much I dislike on the album, and I thought the cover was an amusing idea. |
Now that you mention it, I guess you're right, there isn't much that I really dislike on this album either... perhaps I would have to listen to it again. But there isn't much that I really love either. |
I`m a fan its supersonic prog...
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 13:18 |
Stereolab wrote:
Just heard this album and I love it. I prefer it over Relayer and GftO, but not by much. It's a very different type of record, more of a throwback to the pre-Fragile Yes. I'm also not noticing the terrible production that some see. Could it use a remaster? Sure, but I'm not offended by the sound as it is now. |
Beginning with Fragile, Yes really could do no wrong up through Drama, or at the very least, Tormato. They're both still essential if you're a dyed-in-the-wool Yesfan. I've never had an issue with the songs, the production, Rick's synth sounds, etc. Simply another superb album from the guys.
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 13:35 |
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Probably my least favorite Yes album (that I've heard... still haven't attempted Union or Open Your Eyes), but even that is pretty good by my reckoning. I have yet to hear a truly bad Yes album.
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 14:36 |
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^Yes. it's their worst without a doubt. |
Really?
How about this one? Even I can do better than that. See?
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 14:50 |
Imperial Zeppelin wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Yes. it's their worst without a doubt. |
Really?
How about this one? Even I can do better than that. See? |
I love "TALK". I think updated version of TALK with 2 minutes added to the middle of " The Calling" is an improvement. I like every song and "The Endless Dream" is the West Coast Yes's " Close to the Edge." I like the way Rabin, Anderson, and Squire trade off lead vocals and their harmonies are flawless. "Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 15:05 |
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I really quite like this album but it's taken a long time to grow on me. I can't stand the Trevor Rabin involved Yes albums.
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 15:15 |
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"Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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There are those of us who beg to differ...
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Posted: March 06 2015 at 16:48 |
verslibre wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
"Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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Yeah...I knew a wise man would bring up Keys to Ascension after I opened my big mouth and Talked! I totally respect your opinion. I know I'm in the minority. Still, I like Talk better, yet I totally see and understand why most Yes fans prefer Keys to Talk. I like Keys as well, yet I find myself drawn to Talk time after time...Now I will hush.
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Tom Ozric
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 04:26 |
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When I discovered/explored Tormato when I first got into Yes (1987/88) - my thoughts were that this album was a perfectly correct sounding Prog album for 1978 ( to my (then) limited understanding). I still enjoy this one, and I still think the cover is amusing, and not knowing the 'true background' of it, I think it's far from the worst I've seen.
I never judge a book by its cover, but ELP's Love Beach was all so wrong in more ways than 17. Had the thing been given a skeric of thought, it may have been welcomed a frad more than it did.
I prefer the cover of Tormato to ATTWT by Genesis........
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 07:30 |
Imperial Zeppelin wrote:
SteveG wrote:
^Yes. it's their worst without a doubt. |
Really?
How about this one?
Even I can do better than that.
See? |
I see a red cross.
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richardh
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 16:07 |
verslibre wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
"Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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Dellinger
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Posted: March 10 2015 at 22:16 |
richardh wrote:
verslibre wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
"Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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Actually, I don't like The Ladder very much. Nothing particularly horrible, but nothing particularly enjoyable either. As a matter of fact, I hardly enjoy stuff that's related to Billy Sherwood (except for a few songs, and the covers stuff he's been related to are fun to listen to, at least). And Keys to Ascension... well, I like the live stuff a lot, but the studio pieces are hit or miss. Be the one is great, and Mind Drive is frustrating, for it got the potential to be one of Yes's best tracks (the Howe acoustic bits and what I understand was suposed to come from the XYZ sessions... but what Anderson added to the song is just annoying). As for Talk... I don't really care for much of the album either, but Endless Dream is pure genious, and just for that I apreciate the album, and find it my favourite from the Rabin era albums. The album that I would really put as an example of Yes having done something better than Talk since it was released would be Magnification, which has really many wonderful songs within (I guess that one would be their best album since... Drama, or perhaps even Going for the One).
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richardh
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 02:37 |
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Magnification is also very good. I find good things in all these albums (Talk , Magnification, Ladder and Keys) but they are all uneven and a bit patchy. I suppose the question would be though would we rather have this and an active touring band that Yes still are or would it have been better for them to have packed it in? Obviously my view is the former.
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Posted: March 11 2015 at 05:25 |
richardh wrote:
verslibre wrote:
omphaloskepsis wrote:
"Talk" is very under rated, and in my opinion, Yes has not topped TALK since...
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