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Just an idle thought about Spirit, seeing as we have a "spirited" convo going here.  Thinking back to 1968, when Spirit's first album came out, at that time there were very few (if any) precedents for the combination of elements they employed on that album.  Progressive Rock as a genre didn't "really" exist yet (ok, maybe you think it did... but it certainly didn't have a lot of adherents yet if it did).  I think of Progressive Rock, in historical terms, as really "taking off" when King Crimson wowed everyone with their album in 1969.  That seemed to open the floodgates. 

Now imagine for a moment: what if Spirit's first album had "taken off" in a similar fashion?  What if lots of "Spirit wannabes" had come out of the woodwork and Prog with a Capital P had evolved from there?  Right now we would likely be talking about Spirit's first album the way we talk about ITCHCOCK.

My point is that what we generally agree here about what is "Prog" or "not Prog" is HIGHLY influenced by historical factors - how it actually went down in the old days.  Love them or not, Spirit kind of fell through the cracks and they arguably missed their chance to really shape the future of rock music, simply because they failed to capture the imagination of enough people.  But that is not the same as saying that their music wasn't progressive, or that they "shouldn't be" prog - indeed, they should have, if I could only go back in time and change history so that Spirit makes a bigger dent in our collective culture.  Their music remains as daring and original as ever - but the masses have spoken, and who are we to rewrite that history?
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^My opinions on music's origins are obviously influenced by the social and cultural conditions that existed at a specific location and time of any music genre's formation and development.
 
I've often wondered how Spirit's debut album would have been received if Spirit had been a British band instead of an American one. Would it have fallen into the Progressive Music zeitgeist of other heady British bands? Or would it have had the same critical reaction in the U.K. as it had in the U.S.?
 
As some wise person once said "you have to be in the right place at the right time."


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Oh! Move over Rover, and let Jimi take over! Yeah, you know what I'm talking 'bout.
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What a song!
 
 
 
 
 
 
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The Doors!!!!!
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Hmm, was listening to some old stuff that I had transfered to CD years ago abnd ran accross The Advancement "Painful Struggle" . Google lead me here and found band members and track list. Pretty cool for 1969, got the album at a cutout bin at Zayers discount for .49. one of my best purchases.
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Jimi is my single fave musician on the list, but the Doors get my vote as the best band Wink
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Where are the Grateful Dead?  Man, the anti-Dead backlash on PA is inexplicable....Jefferson Airplane and the Doors as progressive but no Dead?  Sweetwater?  I think maybe those who aren't from the US have a skewered idea of what the Grateful Dead are.
 
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Originally posted by Intruder Intruder wrote:

Where are the Grateful Dead?  Man, the anti-Dead backlash on PA is inexplicable....Jefferson Airplane and the Doors as progressive but no Dead?  Sweetwater?  I think maybe those who aren't from the US have a skewered idea of what the Grateful Dead are.
 
Wake up and put on the Dead!

I like the Dead...have all the early stuff (Aoxomoxoa being my favorite...) ,but I'm not sure they qualify as proto-prog which was the thread title.
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Jimi Hendrix would get my vote on any list of American bands.
Several would compete for second place but none would even tie Hendrix for the top slot.
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The Doors "L.A. Woman" is their definitive masterpiece that transcends time.
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