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Poll Question: Which of these do you prefer?
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    Posted: February 22 2015 at 08:27
Some hugely successful names in this poll, and some highly popular less-successful names too.

But which do you prefer?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 08:54
There are some great bands listed here but I just wouldn't feel right if I didn't pick Jimi.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 09:01
No Blue Cheer?

I can't vote as i don't know some bands, some i don't care for, so...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 09:13
Blue Cheer aren't on PA

Neither are The Amboy Dukes, before anyone asks


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 09:42
Originally posted by Stool Man Stool Man wrote:

Blue Cheer aren't on PA



ok then, my bad

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 09:54
Haven't heard all of them, but the Airplane blows away everything I have heard on the list. 

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 14:01
Really tough choices there.......Doors, Spirit, Hendrix, Airplane, etc...love most of those bands o n the list...
if I have to choose I'll go with Spirit due to Dr Sardonicus but tomorrow I might say Airplane due to Volunteers or Doors due to Strange Days.....
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 14:23
Good to see Sweetwater mentioned.

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 14:40
I voted for Touch, and will probably be the only one too 
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 15:15
Spirit is probably the best proto-prog band that isn't a household name like Zeppelin, Airplane, etc.  I love them dearly, and vote for them without hesitation.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 16:07
Too many, too good. I suppose Hendrix musically, and The Doors lyrically and stylistically. But The United States of America's album is one the best psych album ever, and etc.
 
And this poll neglects so many, particularly Love and their superb album Forever Changes (whether listed here or not). A great album from the 60s.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 22 2015 at 17:25
This poll includes every American band listed on PA as Proto Prog.

Omissions are either listed under a different subgenre, or they're not here at all.

Love were suggested and discussed here in 2007


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 06:57
Practically all the bands embraced by PA that released music in the 60's were what PA today would call proto-prog at the time. The best US proto-prog was released by the bands that later evolved into full-prog. These bands include The Mothers Of Invention, Captain Beefheart, Ultimate Spinach, The Mandrake Memorial, Music Emporium, Valhalla, The Advancement, The Flock a.o.

Among the bands that never reached beyond proto-prog and listed in the poll, Spirit, H.P. Lovecraft and Touch are the ones I enjoy the most. The latter gets my vote.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 07:28
I've listened to Jimi Hendrix, Spirit, H.P. Lovecraft, some songs from the Doors, Iron Butterfly, but only the Silver Apples left me without breath and out of my mind.
Besides them, I still pledge my allegiance to Hendrix and Iron Butterfly for their participation to the building of hard rock and heavy metal.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 08:08
There's a lot of bands listed here that I ain't heard of (yeah I'm a Brit, it's clearly my loss) but as much as I adore the Doors and admire the Airplane's Surrealistic Pillow album and acknowledge that Hendrix was routinely cited as a massive influence by subsequent proggers far and wide, (together with the United States of America's sole album being a 'shoo in belter' and covered by the Fall dammit)....
I can't really hear any extant residue of their inspiration on the so called stalwarts of early 70's Prog i.e. Crimson. ELP, Yes, Genesis, Tull, Gentle Giant, VDGG (That's not the stated aim of the poll so it's just an observation, not a criticism - i.e  US proto clearly diverged from its European counterpart in manifesting itself in subsequent developments that were closer to Krautrock/RIO Avant in spirit rather than eclectic/symph )
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 08:31
Although I am more familiar with Jimi' s or The Doors' catalogue, I voted Spirit just as my personal little protest against a wrong decision that the Sprit should be listed in PA as a "proto" (i.e. not prog) act, i.e. Spirit would be in a full-prog category of PA.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 08:34
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Although I am more familiar with Jimi' s or The Doors' catalogue, I voted Spirit just as my personal little protest against a wrong decision that the Sprit should be listed in PA as a "proto" (i.e. not prog) act, i.e. Spirit would be in a full-prog category of PA.

And that 'full-prog category' would be....?

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:18
Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Although I am more familiar with Jimi' s or The Doors' catalogue, I voted Spirit just as my personal little protest against a wrong decision that the Sprit should be listed in PA as a "proto" (i.e. not prog) act, i.e. Spirit would be in a full-prog category of PA.

And that genre would be....?


I think that the genre would be Eclectic, Psych/Space or Crossover.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:29
Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Originally posted by earlyprog earlyprog wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

Although I am more familiar with Jimi' s or The Doors' catalogue, I voted Spirit just as my personal little protest against a wrong decision that the Sprit should be listed in PA as a "proto" (i.e. not prog) act, i.e. Spirit would be in a full-prog category of PA.

And that genre would be....?


I think that the genre would be Eclectic, Psych/Space or Crossover.

If the genre is not obvious and the music covers a wide range of genres this would indicate proto-prog. 

Would you describe any of their 60s' (or later for that matter) albums as full-blown prog?


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Direct Link To This Post Posted: February 27 2015 at 09:40
Spirit. Hendrix is one of my heroes but he will always be a psychedelic  acid rock god to me. Spirit were Prog!
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