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dr wu23
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 12:39 |
Horizons wrote:
If there are any fanboys we need to eliminate it the ones that somehow see In the Court as a masterpiece. |
ITCOTCK 4.60 with 429 reviews SEBTP 4.63 with 413 reviews Hmm....looks pretty even as far as the fan boys tally up.
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Barbu
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 13:16 |
In the Court
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 14:37 |
ITCOTCK.
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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richardh
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 15:04 |
Horizons wrote:
If there are any fanboys we need to eliminate it the ones that somehow see In the Court Selling England as a masterpiece. |
Battle Of Epping Forest - lazy stuff with naff all musical content stretched beyond breaking point More Fool Me - what's this doing here? I Know What I Like - catchy but not exactly earth shattering stuff The rest is admittedly Grade A classic symphonic prog but the aforementioned tracks rule this album out from being a masterpiece In The Court suffers a little bit on Side Two and I would also rule this out although overall its a little better Animals doesn't have an weak moments for me so that gets my vote.
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HackettFan
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 15:20 |
^I know many don't but I love Battle of Epping Forest (I do have to be in the right mood, admittedly). I used to not like More Fool Me. I could not bear to even listen to it passively, but it has aged on to my like list. I don't care for I know What I Like much, but it makes for a change of pace. I don't care for Firth of Fifth except for guitar solo, which is beyond stupendous. After the Ordeal is another one that has grown in my estimation over the years. It might be my favorite thing on the album now currently. I voted for SEBT
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Horizons
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 16:41 |
dr wu23 wrote:
Horizons wrote:
If there are any fanboys we need to eliminate it the ones that somehow see In the Court as a masterpiece. |
ITCOTCK 4.60 with 429 reviews SEBTP 4.63 with 413 reviews Hmm....looks pretty even as far as the fan boys tally up. |
But you see - Selling England is okay having a 4.63
In the Court shouldn't break 3.5
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Crushed like a rose in the riverflow.
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sublime220
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 17:37 |
Horizons wrote:
dr wu23 wrote:
Horizons wrote:
If there are any fanboys we need to eliminate it the ones that somehow see In the Court as a masterpiece. |
ITCOTCK 4.60 with 429 reviews SEBTP 4.63 with 413 reviews Hmm....looks pretty even as far as the fan boys tally up. |
But you see - Selling England is okay having a 4.63
In the Court shouldn't break 3.5
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You are bad and you should feel bad
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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zravkapt
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 23:37 |
From my review of SEBTP:
"I cannot believe this album is so popular when, to my ears at least, both Foxtrot and The
Lamb are clearly superior. This was actually my first Gabriel-era Genesis album; I can
understand why so many would like it at first. After hearing Foxtrot and Trick over the years,
my appreciation for SEPTB has dropped considerably. "I Know" and "More Fool Me" are in
no way, shape or form "prog". "Battle" would have been better if it was half its current
length. The most frustrating thing about this album is that it actually contains some of the
bands best musical moments(Dancing, Firth, Cinema)"
From my review of ITCOTKC:
"To call this the first prog album is
nothing short of a complete slap in the face to artists like Zappa, Floyd, The Nice, Moody
Blues, Procol Harum and East Of Eden and what they were doing before this album was
released. Listen to Uncle Meat and Ummagumma(both released in 1969); those two
albums make ITCOTCK sound like the Monkees! ..... As much as I like what Crimson did from '69-'71, I really
don't think they "found themselves" until LTIA"
From my review of Animals:
"This album didn't quite do as well sales wise as the previous two. That's understandable
because there was no song suitable for radio. Animals is also more adventurous musically
than those two albums. For people who loved this album when it came out, it must have
been a shock to hear The Wall for the first time. This once great band's last good album.
After this they became 'Roger Waters featuring Pink Floyd' and then later, 'The David
Gilmour Band'. Still, for an album released in January 1977, it's pretty proggy. Pink Floyd
could only make a more mainstream and radio-friendly album after this."
I voted for Animals
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Blacksword
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Posted: February 25 2015 at 23:44 |
Tricky. I'll vote Animals as it doesn't as it's consistently good throughout. The other two have at least one weak track.
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Polymorphia
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 00:19 |
Animals, easily. Selling England puts me to sleep, and In the Court is a promising debut, but isn't a masterpiece imo.
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The Bearded Bard
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 10:09 |
1. Selling 2. Animals 3. In the Court
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Libor10
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 10:11 |
Selling England for it's Knight, Firth and Cinema... and btw Battle isn's as bad IMO (it's in style of their similar stuff like Harrold the Barrel, Get 'em out by Friday or Robbery, Assault & Battery...) And why everyone omits beautiful short song After the Ordeal I don't know - this one I love too. Crimsons are a small step below this and Animals is waaaaay down of those both records....
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progadicto
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 14:27 |
SEbtP...
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... E N E L B U N K E R...
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snowsnow
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 15:31 |
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micky
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 17:27 |
damnit... I can't do it.. don't make me vote for Genesis...
I.. ahhh.. umm... ahhh.. just leave without voting. Hah that works..I do have a reputation to uphold
SEBTP ...
.... ITCOTCTCKIT .. Animals.
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The Pedro and Micky Experience - When one no longer requires psychotropics to trip
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sublime220
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Posted: February 26 2015 at 19:35 |
micky wrote:
damnit... I can't do it.. don't make me vote for Genesis...
I.. ahhh.. umm... ahhh.. just leave without voting. Hah that works..I do have a reputation to uphold
SEBTP ...
.... ITCOTCTCKIT .. Animals.
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When you see the impossible happen...
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There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Moogtron III
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 15:27 |
Hey, I seem to be the first one to have this order:
1. ITCOTCK 2. Selling England 3. Animals
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Wanorak
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 16:27 |
No, that would be the order I put them in as well:)
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A GREAT YEAR FOR PROG!!!
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 21:13 |
Animals for me. Against some other Floyd albums I might have chosen The Crimson King, which is also great. Selling England is also my favourite album from Genesis, but sadly it conains Epping Forest which drops at least one star from it.
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Dellinger
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Posted: February 27 2015 at 21:17 |
Libor10 wrote:
Selling England for it's Knight, Firth and Cinema... and btw Battle isn's as bad IMO (it's in style of their similar stuff like Harrold the Barrel, Get 'em out by Friday or Robbery, Assault & Battery...) And why everyone omits beautiful short song After the Ordeal I don't know - this one I love too. Crimsons are a small step below this and Animals is waaaaay down of those both records....
| It's exactly stuff like Harrold the Barrel, Get 'em out by Fryday, Epping Forest itself, that drags down every album from the classic era just one bit. I just can't stand any of them. And Robbery, Assault & Battery, I don't even really remember how it sounds, but I do know I didn't particularly like it either... perhaps it would be one to hate too.
Edited by Dellinger - June 28 2016 at 22:12
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