| Author |
 Topic Search  Topic Options
|
addictedtoprog 
Forum Senior Member
Joined: July 16 2014
Location: india
Status: Offline
Points: 1422
|
 Posted: March 27 2015 at 22:59 |
|
The first response to this thread by Polymorphia hit the nail for me.
|
 |
JD
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 07 2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18371
|
Posted: March 27 2015 at 23:01 |
|
Admittedly I wasn't trying to be coy here. If you read what I said in my OP "classified as Progressive". I'm firmly of the opinion that there is way too much Metal music being classified as progressive when it really has no progressive leanings at all. Bands like Dream Theatre are, IMHO, Heavy Prog not Progressive Metal, but then there are those other bands with the several of the elements I've listed that seem to get lumped into the progressive genre. My intention was not to stir the sh*t but to see what specific elements are off putting to some listeners.
All hail Lenny!! (insert missing rock horn emoticon here)
|
|
Thank you for supporting independently produced music
|
|
HackettFan
Forum Senior Member
Joined: June 20 2012
Location: Oklahoma
Status: Offline
Points: 7946
|
Posted: March 27 2015 at 23:48 |
|
^Agree. Dream Theater is not Prog Metal. All of the above choices for me. Since I can't vote for more than one thing, I chose dull keyboard fills, because there sure are a lot of them out there. I do agree with everyone else about the raspy vocals, though.
|
|
richardh
Prog Reviewer
Joined: February 18 2004
Location: United Kingdom
Status: Offline
Points: 26140
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 04:07 |
Sometimes I think drummers should have their cymbals confiscated  other than that it has to be overuse of Mellotron 
Edited by richardh - March 29 2015 at 02:55
|
|
Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator
Retired Admin
Joined: January 22 2009
Location: Magic Theatre
Status: Offline
Points: 23098
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 04:15 |
 JD wrote:
Admittedly I wasn't trying to be coy here. If you read what I said in my OP "classified as Progressive". I'm firmly of the opinion that there is way too much Metal music being classified as progressive when it really has no progressive leanings at all. Bands like Dream Theatre are, IMHO, Heavy Prog not Progressive Metal, but then there are those other bands with the several of the elements I've listed that seem to get lumped into the progressive genre. My intention was not to stir the sh*t but to see what specific elements are off putting to some listeners.
All hail Lenny!! (insert missing rock horn emoticon here)
|
Then again, there's just as much "Prog" being dished out these days that has zero to do with being progressive ie the prog-by-the-numbers approach as was mentioned earlier on.
|
|
“The Guide says there is an art to flying or rather a knack. The knack lies in learning how to throw yourself at the ground and miss.”
- Douglas Adams
|
|
infocat
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: June 10 2011
Location: Colorado, USA
Status: Offline
Points: 4671
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 05:06 |
JD wrote:
I find this very interesting. I created this poll after listening to Orbs - Asleep Next to Science. I was really enjoying the music and then those vocals came in. It really was hard to take. I wondered if it was just me but apparently I'm not alone.
|
Love that album. I don't see the vocals as being "growly", though. Take a bit of getting used to, but I enjoy them now.
|
|
--
Frank Swarbrick
Belief is not Truth.
|
|
Meltdowner
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: June 25 2013
Location: Portugal
Status: Offline
Points: 10215
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 05:23 |
|
|
|
LakeGlade12
Forum Senior Member
Joined: September 29 2013
Location: UK
Status: Offline
Points: 179
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 06:12 |
None of the things on the list annoy me really. I guess apart from the good old mellotron I'm not that big on keyboard solos, so I will go for that.
The OP should be saying What annoys me the most in Prog METAL.  |
|
JD
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 07 2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18371
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 06:57 |
LakeGlade12 wrote:
None of the things on the list annoy me really. I guess apart from the good old mellotron I'm not that big on keyboard solos, so I will go for that.
The OP should be saying What annoys me the most in Prog METAL. |
Again, as I stated, these elements appear in some bands that are classified as other than "Prog Metal" incl. Heavy Prog, Crossover and sometimes, certainly to a lesser degree, Symphonic. But for the record, yes, I am not a huge fan of the Metal genre. That being said, I have enjoyed some pieces by Symphony X and Adagio to name a few. But at the end of the day the Growly Screamy vocals really send me heading for the eject button more than anything else. Thanks for all the feedback.
|
|
Thank you for supporting independently produced music
|
|
Blacksword
Prog Reviewer
Joined: June 22 2004
Location: England
Status: Offline
Points: 16130
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 06:59 |
Love machine gun drumming!  Nothing really 'annoys' me about prog, but I guess I'm not interested in relatively new prog bands regurgitating ideas and formulas that were nailed 40 years earlier by far more imaginative young musicians.
|
|
Ultimately bored by endless ecstasy!
|
|
CPicard
Forum Senior Member
Joined: October 03 2008
Location: Là, sui monti.
Status: Offline
Points: 10837
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 07:19 |
|
Between the options of this poll and the thread about "why prog isn't as successful as metal as an industry", maybe we should ask to the admins to erase the Tech/Extreme Prog Metal ressources from the database.
Maybe we should also erase the Experimental/Post Metal bands, and maybe Progressive Metal too.
|
|
octopus-4
Special Collaborator
RIO/Avant/Zeuhl,Neo & Post/Math Teams
Joined: October 31 2006
Location: Italy
Status: Offline
Points: 13358
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 10:17 |
Is Genesis an option?
|
|
Curiosity killed a cat, Schroedinger only half.
My poor home recorded stuff at https://yellingxoanon.bandcamp.com
|
|
infernalfrog
Forum Groupie
Joined: June 30 2013
Location: Brazil
Status: Offline
Points: 83
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 11:03 |
|
Jon Anderson voice and the 80's, ELP's 8-bit keyboard too.
|
|
Please, forgive my spelling and concordance mistakes. English noob here.
|
|
moshkito
Forum Senior Member
Joined: January 04 2007
Location: Grok City
Status: Offline
Points: 16148
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 12:21 |
Hi,
Heck, the voice is an instrument, or at least it was until "progressive rock" music came around? 
Cookie Monster? ... I would rather say that they need to hire a Guy to sing the one of his many themes all over again, specially the one on April Fools! Hindustani Annie wouldn't be bad either! 
Edited by moshkito - March 28 2015 at 12:43
|
|
Music is not just for listening ... it is for LIVING ... you got to feel it to know what's it about! Not being told!
www.pedrosena.com
|
|
JD
Forum Senior Member
Joined: February 07 2009
Location: Canada
Status: Offline
Points: 18371
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 12:40 |
CPicard wrote:
Between the options of this poll and the thread about "why prog isn't as successful as metal as an industry", maybe we should ask to the admins to erase the Tech/Extreme Prog Metal ressources from the database.
Maybe we should also erase the Experimental/Post Metal bands, and maybe Progressive Metal too.
|
I'm sure there are some here who might agree, for my part I recognize that PA has grown way beyond Prog to include a lot of music, so if the Metal stuff goes then why not Jazz / Fusion or Prog Folk (another genre I don't full understand the legitimacy of or need for. So no, leave them in and let the site attract more participants. I believe in tolerance and the right of an individual to make their own choices, understanding that not everyone will agree. That's why I don't go ballistic when the ELP bashing begins.
|
|
Thank you for supporting independently produced music
|
|
Tapfret
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator / Retired Admin
Joined: August 12 2007
Location: Bryant, Wa
Status: Offline
Points: 8571
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 12:55 |
|
Polls like this are the forum's death metal growl.
|
|
|
|
akamaisondufromage
Forum Senior Member
VIP Member
Joined: May 16 2009
Location: Blighty
Status: Offline
Points: 6797
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 13:46 |
|
Unfare of me to comment really, but, rapid fire drumming usually has be thinking - gosh that's impressive, is that a drum machine? for about 30secs or a minute until I start thinking, 'won't someone please make it stop!'
|
|
Help me I'm falling!
|
|
twalsh
Forum Senior Member
Joined: August 26 2014
Location: Vancouver, BC
Status: Offline
Points: 328
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 15:18 |
JD wrote:
CPicard wrote:
Between the options of this poll and the thread about "why prog isn't as successful as metal as an industry", maybe we should ask to the admins to erase the Tech/Extreme Prog Metal ressources from the database.
Maybe we should also erase the Experimental/Post Metal bands, and maybe Progressive Metal too.
|
I'm sure there are some here who might agree, for my part I recognize that PA has grown way beyond Prog to include a lot of music, so if the Metal stuff goes then why not Jazz / Fusion or Prog Folk (another genre I don't full understand the legitimacy of or need for. So no, leave them in and let the site attract more participants. I believe in tolerance and the right of an individual to make their own choices, understanding that not everyone will agree. That's why I don't go ballistic when the ELP bashing begins.
|
Definitely the latter. Inclusive, not exclusive. And I still don't like cookie monster vocals, despite liking metal. Of course, I am biased (as is everybody, one way or another) since the new CDs I've enjoyed since becoming a member have been in Heavy Prog, Prog Metal and Neo Prog
|
|
More heavy prog, please!
|
|
Man With Hat
Collaborator
Jazz-Rock/Fusion/Canterbury Team
Joined: March 12 2005
Location: Neurotica
Status: Offline
Points: 166178
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 17:05 |
I guess the dull options. I don't like dull.
|
|
Dig me...But don't...Bury me
I'm running still, I shall until, one day, I hope that I'll arrive
Warning: Listening to jazz excessively can cause a laxative effect.
|
|
Raff
Special Collaborator
Honorary Collaborator
Joined: July 29 2005
Location: None
Status: Offline
Points: 24391
|
Posted: March 28 2015 at 17:27 |
|
Those who are hopelessly stuck in the past, and refuse to see the wealth of great music produced in recent times. Also, as David said, prog-by-numbers and those who think that cloning the sound of Seventies bands is a good idea. Though I am not a big prog metal fan, I recognize the importance of the subgenre for the development of modern prog.
|
|
Donate monthly and keep PA fast-loading and ad-free forever.
/PAlogo_v2.gif "Progarchives.com Homepage")
What annoys me the most in Prog...
