The Slaughterhouse (The Noise/Industrial thread)

Polymorphia wrote: ^^Noice to know.  I guess drone doom would be welcome here? I'm exploring the genre about as slowly as the songs therein tend to move, but I'm generally liking it a lot. Much of it bears resemblance to Tibetan Bhuddist ritual music. Really digging Earth and Boris and Sunn O))). Any others I need to check out?

Never really thought of that music as the exact same culture as dark ambient/industrial/noise, in my experience it seems to be more popular with psychedelic hard rock and doom metal fans, but there is some fanbase crossover as Boris' collaborations with Merzbow prove.

Some of the punks I hang out with have a side project in a similar vein, titled Skær. ("reef" in Danish)



They're a bit less wall-of-noise and more dark ambient. I think they might even have done a film soundtrack a couple years ago?

Toaster Mantis wrote: Polymorphia wrote: ^^Noice to know.  I guess drone doom would be welcome here? I'm exploring the genre about as slowly as the songs therein tend to move, but I'm generally liking it a lot. Much of it bears resemblance to Tibetan Bhuddist ritual music. Really digging Earth and Boris and Sunn O))). Any others I need to check out? Never really thought of that music as the exact same culture as dark ambient/industrial/noise, in my experience it seems to be more popular with psychedelic hard rock and doom metal fans, but there is some fanbase crossover as Boris' collaborations with Merzbow prove.

Whatever relation drone metal has to this thread or the lack thereof, I figured some members here know a thing or two about it, more than most members in the site. I probably could have asked in the Shred since it's a lot of the same people. Anyway, I still haven't heard those Boris/Merzbow collabs. How are they, anyone whose listened to them?

@Sheavy, that Nadja album really hit the spot.


Edited by Polymorphia - April 13 2015 at 21:09

Don't you think there is also a link through the faster veriety of metal, with grindcore evolving into noisecore?
Also noisenik is a nice term

Yes, alright, a punk link might make more sense. I have yet to hear Melt-Banana though.

Sheavy wrote: I only heard a little of killing joke and I didn't really care for it, I ought to give their early stuffs a go.

Gave some songs from What's This For a try and I can't say I liked it too much. The vocals especially turned me off.

Edited by Sheavy - April 17 2015 at 09:02

I'll post a couple links here. It sounds like some of the earliest avant-garde music:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E30e1qjlu6g

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sGvJiOBSjYg

The point stands that a good deal of grindcore and pretty much all noise rock is culturally more punk than metal. Drone doom's in turn influenced by The Melvins who on quite a few of their songs took the "punk in slow motion" aspect of Flipper and early Swans expanding it in an extreme direction. Earth seem to have drawn from not just that but also the heavy psychedelic music that metal evolved out of, however it's still focused more on atmosphere than riffing and textural development over the well-defined narrative structure. (i. e. the opposite direction than what metal did different than psych)


Edited by Toaster Mantis - April 22 2015 at 10:40

Time for my effortpost on Melt-Banana to appear: I think I might have found a new favourite band in them.

They're like the perfect counter-argument against the stereotypes that punk groups aren't good musicians or interested in ambitious songwriting, and that avant-garde experimental music can't be fun. Not to mention that MxBx (fan nickname) is also a sterling example of extremely violent and aggressive music that's not stereotypically masculine at all. It's fascinating how they can switch gears between many different riffing styles and textures with a rather minimal setup just by way of creative guitar pedals and electronic effects use, fitting it into some pretty inventive and complex song structures while keeping them extremely concise and even catchy. I can't think of many other music groups who buck that many stereotypes at the conceptual level.

I think what keeps all those disparate components together is pulling off the entire grim-but-colourful futuristic-but-kinda-lo-fi dystopian aesthetic which I'm a huge fan of, and which is one of the things I like so much about this whole music culture. MxBx seem to add a distinctly Japanese twist on it, I get a similar vibe from their music as Akira and Ghost in the Shell even more so. So far my favourite of their albums is the cliché pick of Cell-Scape, because that's where that entire conceptual aesthetic Gesamtkunstwerk aspect of their music is realized the fullest. For those who aren't familiar with the band I'll post a couple of my favourite songs from that album:





Heard their earlier, punkier records and the newest one Fetch are just as good though?

Well I've heard Charlie and Fetch now, both very pleasant. I wouldn't call it dystopian though, it's not very dreamy indeed, but it isn't very cynical either. With the whole J-Pop vibe behind it it's actually rather quirky.