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Posted: April 08 2015 at 12:01
PG for me.
You, I think The White Album vs. Physical Graffiti would have made a more interesting poll, considering that both involved a "Let's throw everything and the kitchen sink against the wall and see what happens" approach.
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Posted: April 08 2015 at 13:01
I like Queen 2 but don't quite understand why it is so popular on prog sites - a bit of a mess at times with a few classics thrown in such as White Queen (As it began) Thought the next 2 albums were a big improvement especially ANATO.
Zep by some way - great album and though there is the odd duffer (take a bow Boogie with Stu) a diverse album with the band at or very near its peak.
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Posted: April 08 2015 at 17:26
jude111 wrote:
Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides.
How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu
--- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV
"Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur
--- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental
"Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy
--- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards
That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
Sometimes individual songs don't get put on an album because they don't fit in with the general characteristics of the rest of the recordings or with what the band wants to release. This does not mean they are bad songs.
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Posted: April 08 2015 at 20:26
KingCrInuYasha wrote:
PG for me.
You, I think The White Album vs. Physical Graffiti would have made a more interesting poll, considering that both involved a "Let's throw everything and the kitchen sink against the wall and see what happens" approach.
Nope. Please Please Me is better. White Album contains a few Rock songs.
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Posted: April 09 2015 at 08:19
Hi,
Bad comparison for me, but PG was an outstanding single LP (instead of a bloated pair!), while Queen's did not quite take to the airwaves right away. Led Zep was kinda "pre-sold", and bound and ready for another million and such. Queen, at the time, was just an after thought, but they stood up later, very well.
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Posted: April 09 2015 at 08:37
jude111 wrote:
Queen II. Is there any album more over-rated than Physical Graffiti? Especially of late. It's basically a collection of outtakes, songs that were rejected for previous albums. Nor do these songs sit comfortably side-by-side with each other. The best is the new material recorded for that album, especially Custard Pie, The Wanton Song, Trampled Under Foot, and of course the great Kashmir. Those tracks are undeniably great, up there with anything Led Zep ever recorded. Furthermore, those tracks push Led Zep in a new direction. Too bad then that it's surrounded by rejects. There's probably a great single disc lurking in there, if you cut out all the filler and inferior songs that should've been B-sides. How anyone can think it approaches IV, II, I, III or even Houses of the Holy, I've never understood...
"Led Zeppelin IV" outtakes and rejects: Down by the Seaside, Night Flight, Boogie with Stu
--- verdict: not one of these songs can hold a candle to any single song on IV
"Led Zeppelin III" outtakes and rejects: Bron-Yr-Aur
--- verdict: a nice short acoustic instrumental
"Houses of the Holy" outtakes and rejects: The Rover, Black Country Woman, Houses of the Holy
--- verdict: only the track Houses of the Holy is up to the usual Led Zep standards
That's 7 old songs, only one of which is up to par, paired with 8 new songs (including the dreadful In My Time of Dying, which further bogs down the album).
All your opinion of course. In my opinion, even LZ's "rejects" are better than most other band's stuff.
Queen II. I couldn't vote against maybe greatest Queen album. PG are ok but I like other LZ records more... A lot of filleron the PG as somebody here has said before me.
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