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Posted: April 15 2015 at 01:14
Adding to the strong Lucky lead.
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 04:42
Lucky Man, speaking of which check out this Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich song from Top of the Pops in July 1970, which was before Lucky Man came out. An acoustic-based pop song with a solo on an Emerson-style telephone exchange Moog. Were ELP watching?
Edited by Cactus Choir - April 15 2015 at 04:43
"And now...on the drums...Mick Underwooooooooood!!!"
Lucky Man is a fortune cookie with delusions of being a three tiered wedding cake. The only reason such a gauche and slender composition is writ large in the collective Prog memory is because of the Moog outro. Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
I think Supertramp are irredeemably s.h.i.t.e so didn't vote
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Posted: April 15 2015 at 12:14
ExittheLemming wrote:
Lucky Man is a fortune cookie with delusions of being a three tiered wedding cake. The only reason such a gauche and slender composition is writ large in the collective Prog memory is because of the Moog outro. Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
I think Supertramp are irredeemably s.h.i.t.e so didn't vote
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Posted: April 16 2015 at 00:46
JesusisLord wrote:
Love Supertramp…Hate Give a little Bit !!!
Amusing analyses. I'm not a big fan of the Supertramp 'hits' (bar Dreamer, such a good song this one), but most of the other album tracks are very good, if not excellent. My vote goes to ELP, if only for the Moog outro !!
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Posted: April 16 2015 at 02:02
Cactus Choir wrote:
Lucky Man, speaking of which check out this Dozy, Beaky, Mick and Tich song from Top of the Pops in July 1970, which was before Lucky Man came out. An acoustic-based pop song with a solo on an Emerson-style telephone exchange Moog. Were ELP watching?
As I'm sure you know the song was written by Greg Lake when he was 12 but Fripp wouldn't let him include it in Crimson (surprise surprise!) so ELP included when they were short of a track on the album. The recording of the album took place between July and September so its certainly not out of the question that ELP saw that TOTP appearance and may have gained some 'inspiration' (although I have to say its pretty horrible!).
For me the only thing I like about the song is the synth solo. The lyrics are as you would expect very child like and simplistic. Emerson made it what it is .. a staple prog radio classic. BTW apparently it charted at No 20 in The Netherlands!
I do like that Supertramp song probably more for the multi layering of acoustic guitar more than the song itself.
So I guess ELP but I can't get that excited either way.
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Posted: April 16 2015 at 08:50
I'm surprised that several people only like Lucky Man because of Emerson's outro.
I mean, I love the outro, but I also like Lake's simple, folky songs, including Lucky Man.
What I always loved about ELP is the contrast between the complex, high energy compositions of Emerson and the more simpler harmonious, slower-paced compositions of Lake, and the contrast between the two comes to full effect on the Tarkus suite IMHO, but also in Lucky Man as album closer after the more complex Emerson compositions on ELP's debut.
Lucky Man is a fortune cookie with delusions of being a three tiered wedding cake. The only reason such a gauche and slender composition is writ large in the collective Prog memory is because of the Moog outro. Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
I think Supertramp are irredeemably s.h.i.t.e so didn't vote
Gee ExittheLemming, got some feelings to get out?
Yes, I clearly have issues with pretending to say conciliatory things about stuff I don't care for when asked for my opinion
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Posted: April 16 2015 at 09:32
ExittheLemming wrote:
Lucky Man is a fortune cookie with delusions of being a three tiered wedding cake. The only reason such a gauche and slender composition is writ large in the collective Prog memory is because of the Moog outro. Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
I think Supertramp are irredeemably s.h.i.t.e so didn't vote
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Posted: April 16 2015 at 09:51
ExittheLemming wrote:
Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
It's actually got 4 chords - two in the verse and two in the chorus. Having said that, they're all simple enough for someone of limited ability on the guitar (i.e. me) to play.
Lake wrote this number when he was just 13 years old (which doesn't make it a bad song of course, but it's really a bo-toxed three chord trick all said and done)
It's actually got 4 chords - two in the verse and two in the chorus. Having said that, they're all simple enough for someone of limited ability on the guitar (i.e. me) to play.
I happily admit you are correct and yes, I did know that but 'four chord trick' just doesn't carry the same pejorative weight ya dig?
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