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    Posted: April 18 2015 at 00:19
Lately I am a bit confused about Classic Rock Presents Prog Magazine, I thought the current top prog artists i.e. on P.A. would at least be mentioned on there but so far what they publish is not even necessary prog related. They constantly add famous made bands on their magazine issues/articles (by this I do not mean the mag cover) however in terms of current popularity or having a voice in regards to prog bands or helping by spreading the word for those they think have great potential, their support is zero. Ouch
As anyone had a good positive experience with them? I honestly don't think they are deserving of the name prog.
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I don't subscribe to it but I tried looking on the web and found this link
 
 
going by this it seems all present and correct.
 
Kati, could you give an example of bands that you think are not prog and not deserving to be in it?
 
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I don't subscribe to it but I tried looking on the web and found this link
 
 
going by this it seems all present and correct.
 
Kati, could you give an example of bands that you think are not prog and not deserving to be in it?
 
RichardH,
HIHIHI OK, I have exaggerated the none prog bands to be honest this I do have to admit, however Metallica I believe is not prog and does not belong there.
A big hug to you, RichardH SmileHug
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I don't subscribe to it but I tried looking on the web and found this link
 
 
going by this it seems all present and correct.
 
Kati, could you give an example of bands that you think are not prog and not deserving to be in it?
 
RichardH,
HIHIHI OK, I have exaggerated the none prog bands to be honest this I do have to admit, however Metallica I believe is not prog and does not belong there.
A big hug to you, RichardH SmileHug
Their magazines, I hardly see any band that I don't know or heard about Disapprove
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Yep I know what you mean as regards too much coverage of bands that simply don't need it. I listen to Planet Rock for just one hour a week which is all the 'new' prog you get on that rock station and literally every time there has to be at least one track by Dream Theater, Transatlantic, Neal Morse or Spock's Beard. I mean why?? There are so many new bands that need coverage. Its just plain lazy to keep going back to the same ole thing all the time.
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Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

Yep I know what you mean as regards too much coverage of bands that simply don't need it. I listen to Planet Rock for just one hour a week which is all the 'new' prog you get on that rock station and literally every time there has to be at least one track by Dream Theater, Transatlantic, Neal Morse or Spock's Beard. I mean why?? There are so many new bands that need coverage. Its just plain lazy to keep going back to the same ole thing all the time.
True as much as I really like the above bands, I prefer to listen and discover new bands on radio. Hug
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I subscribe to Prog magazine and find that it provides excellent coverage of a wide range of prog and prog-related artists. There are often articles on the classic bands (Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Tull,Crimson etc). However, the magazine also focuses strongly on new artists also. It is through this magazine that I first found out about artists such as Haken, Sanguine Hum, Amplifier etc. The magazine gets the balance about right between old and new. It also covers a wide range of the sub genres of prog, with perhaps a slight leaning in favour of prog metal.
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Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I subscribe to Prog magazine and find that it provides excellent coverage of a wide range of prog and prog-related artists. There are often articles on the classic bands (Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Tull,Crimson etc). However, the magazine also focuses strongly on new artists also. It is through this magazine that I first found out about artists such as Haken, Sanguine Hum, Amplifier etc. The magazine gets the balance about right between old and new. It also covers a wide range of the sub genres of prog, with perhaps a slight leaning in favour of prog metal.
Green Shield, these New artists on there most have paid for that tiny spot of publicity. ErmmHug
A band I am closely connected to also have appeared on there two years ago, they paid too of course. Wink


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Quite disturbing to me that I know or am aware of all bands on here Stern Smilehttps://prog.teamrock.com/features/
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My complain with the mag is that they cover 95% of the time with only UK bands (i know is a English mag but a little more diversity could be great) ... and the albums review most of the time i don't like it.
Still Wakeman articles are always fun to read.

my opinion is that best prog magazine was PROGRESSION
Without a doubt ( i still have a copy with the flower kings on the cover, try to top that      

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Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

My complain with the mag is that they cover 95% of the time with only UK bands (i know is a English mag but a little more diversity could be great) ... and the albums review most of the time i don't like it.
Still Wakeman articles are always fun to read.

my opinion is that best prog magazine was PROGRESSION
Without a doubt ( i still have a copy with the flower kings on the cover, try to top that      
Hahaha Martinprog, I love TFK's too. Did you know that they had a tourbus with artwork designed by Ed Unitsky (the fish kind of design) first time they took it on the road they crashed against a moose, that bus was a complete ride off, luckily none of the bandmembers got hurt, but aww I feel bad for the stupid moose tho' Ouch
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Oh those crazy prog musicians .i didn't know that thanks for the data
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Originally posted by martinprog77 martinprog77 wrote:

Oh those crazy prog musicians .i didn't know that thanks for the data
It is an odd funny true story yes Big smile you are most welcome Hug
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Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I don't subscribe to it but I tried looking on the web and found this link
 
 
going by this it seems all present and correct.
 
Kati, could you give an example of bands that you think are not prog and not deserving to be in it?
 
RichardH,
HIHIHI OK, I have exaggerated the none prog bands to be honest this I do have to admit, however Metallica I believe is not prog and does not belong there.
A big hug to you, RichardH SmileHug

I don't remember seeing Metallica in Prog, when was that?
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

Originally posted by richardh richardh wrote:

I don't subscribe to it but I tried looking on the web and found this link
 
 
going by this it seems all present and correct.
 
Kati, could you give an example of bands that you think are not prog and not deserving to be in it?
 
RichardH,
HIHIHI OK, I have exaggerated the none prog bands to be honest this I do have to admit, however Metallica I believe is not prog and does not belong there.
A big hug to you, RichardH SmileHug

I don't remember seeing Metallica in Prog, when was that?
Wow hello Chopper!!! Shocked long time no see Big smileHug
Here are a few https://prog.teamrock.com/search/?search-term=metallica
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Hi to everyone,

I found PA the most complete source of progressive rock, but there are still more bands out there that deserve to be in.

I always check at every years critic's choices from Prog Rock Magazine and most of the bands mentioned are in PA (i.e. Opeth, Anathema, Bigelf, Amplifier, Knifeworld, Mastodon, North Atlantic Oscillation, The Pineapple Thief, etc.), but others such as Katatonia, Tame Impala, Bruce Soord, Scott Walker, among many others, really deserve to be in Prog Archives data base.

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Originally posted by Green Shield Stamp Green Shield Stamp wrote:

I subscribe to Prog magazine and find that it provides excellent coverage of a wide range of prog and prog-related artists. There are often articles on the classic bands (Floyd,Yes,Genesis,Tull,Crimson etc). However, the magazine also focuses strongly on new artists also. It is through this magazine that I first found out about artists such as Haken, Sanguine Hum, Amplifier etc. The magazine gets the balance about right between old and new. It also covers a wide range of the sub genres of prog, with perhaps a slight leaning in favour of prog metal.

A agree. I get it and it's brilliant.

As for Planet Rock's "One Man and his Prog", I listen every week (twice) and love it. Sure, Darren Reddick is American and loves Dream Theater and Rush, but he plays tons of other stuff, modern, obscure and classic. 
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It's very focused on the UK, classic bands and modern 'mainstream' bands. It typically doesn't do a lot Avant, Electronic or the edges of the scene. I'm not really surprised as it's trying to sell copies and focuses on its core demographic. Typically I buy it when its got something that interests me but otherwise don't bother. Last one I bought was the King Crimson special. I'll probably buy the current one as it's got a big Canterbury article. The copies I buy usually have a lot of Sid Smith's writing in them. I doubt I'll ever see a review of the RIO Festival in it.
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I subscribed for a year, and after a few issues found myself not reading the magazine. Quite honestly, I found it to be pretty cheesy, and darn expensive for what you got. The layout absolutely drove me nuts - way too much like a fanzine targeted at a teenage audience.

The articles on classic groups and albums were, however, by-in-large pretty good and interesting. I didn't really gather a lot of information on new groups through the magazine, and much prefer the PA format for doing so.
I had no idea the new groups paid for coverage in the magazine. I now feel just like little Ralphie in a 'Christmas Story' finding out that Annie's important secret message is actually an Ovaltine advertisement Cry
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Great to have other people's perspectives inc. positive ones. As per above, I quote myself:"Has anyone had a good positive experience with them?"
This is an open discussion topic, although I personally do not see much benefits or help in promoting new unknown artists, some disagree with me. This is an interesting topic and open for debate, I would love for everyone to share their experiences on here. Big hug to everyone,
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