What will Prog be like in 2035? |
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Pastmaster
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 15:05 | ||
Then in another 20 years it will be Neo-neo-neo prog
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The Dark Elf
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 15:37 | ||
2) People invent their own music based on humming or brain patterns which computers can amplify and symphonize with various instruments. I believe that technology is available now, however rudimentary. What need for musicians, singers or anything else when you can invent your own tunes without even the need to be musically inclined? You can even put your tunes on the descendant of YouTube and everyone gets their minute of fame.
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Blacksword
Prog Reviewer Joined: June 22 2004 Location: England Status: Offline Points: 16130 |
Posted: April 25 2015 at 15:54 | ||
Sounds like a horrible future, but sadly I suspect your prediction will come true, at least partially so. I think the idea of making money from music will be broadly regarded as decadent and vulgar, because making music won't be regarded as 'work' Musicians will be expected to entertain us for free and any that object will be treated in the media the same way bankers are at the moment. The difference being the bankers deserve it. |
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Catcher10
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 15:58 | ||
Me 2 |
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octopus-4
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 17:38 | ||
Taking into account my age, in 2035 I'll likely be deaf, so who cares?
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Slartibartfast
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 21:46 | ||
You never know. As boring as pop is it might become the new popular music by then. Don't forget that rock n roll is still a bit of a newbie on the music scene.
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Progosopher
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:14 | ||
I predict that there will be a rebellion against all the electrics and electronics of the older generations and that the youth of the era will revert to acoustic music and compositions which will be almost completely free to use any style of music worldwide past and, to us, present. Hybrids such as Gagaku-Beethoven and Tuvan Throat Singing-Andina will be particularly popular.
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The world of sound is certainly capable of infinite variety and, were our sense developed, of infinite extensions. -- George Santayana, "The Sense of Beauty"
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Polymorphia
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Posted: April 25 2015 at 22:52 | ||
Technically non-existent. After rock music has morphed for another twenty years, no longer resembling the rock that birthed 70s prog, or the rock that birthed neo-prog, or the rock that birthed post and math rock, or the metal that birthed prog metal, or post-metal, or... zzzzzzzzzz , progressive-music-that-is-also-rock wouldn't and shouldn't resemble too much the prog we know and love. Alternately, rock will be consumed in nostalgia and we will only hear 70s prog revivalists... zzzzzzzzzzzz
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5093 |
Posted: April 26 2015 at 06:19 | ||
20 years is a long time to make predictions, but then much current Prog is not that different from the Prog from 1995, although it's also true that some new sub-genres and trends have emerged.
Similarly, I guess that some Prog similar to the current one (including retro-Prog) will still be made, but some new trends will have emerged, possibly more avant and/or electronic oriented. I guess that the formulas for melodic complex music using traditional instruments are a bit squeezed out, there can be endless new compositions but limited new sounds and textures. So truely new Prog will have to be less melodic or use new sounds or beat patterns. Or perhaps a renaissance of classical music with a modern twist? It's also interesting wondering about the instruments and their sounds, we are in an era where it seems that sound synthesis has reached the limits, any sound can be already produced, but there are still 'sound trends' and these could change significantly in years to come. Many of us will be dead or senile by then so it will be the current young generation of Proggers who will still be purchasing music and deciding what they like the most and discussing in places like PA. So there could well be a generation of 'Retro Prog Metal', with the likes of Petrucci's doing what Steve Hackett is doing now for Symphonic.
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ExittheLemming
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 06:49 | ||
If people continue to make retro Prog long enough, eventually an entire generation of consumers will emerge who think it's completely new.
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lazland
Prog Reviewer Joined: October 28 2008 Location: Wales Status: Offline Points: 13243 |
Posted: April 26 2015 at 07:08 | ||
Indeed |
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Metalmarsh89
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 08:45 | ||
Yes will still exist as a band, though they will only tour 3 times and release 2 new studio albums by 2035. On the flipside, they will go through 74 personnel changes, including 17 reunions with Jon Anderson.
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moshkito
Forum Senior Member Joined: January 04 2007 Location: Grok City Status: Offline Points: 16148 |
Posted: April 26 2015 at 10:48 | ||
Hi,
I keep thinking that in 20 years, this world will be almost like "Blade Runner" ... and you and I will hope that we can break through to the other side and make the world a better place, than just being a copycat replicant! The media might be the problem and issue at that time, as if it already isn't.
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sublime220
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Posted: April 26 2015 at 11:22 | ||
As it seems that the attention span is decreasing, a prog epic would be four minutes and a regular song would be thirty seconds.
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Gerinski
Prog Reviewer Joined: February 10 2010 Location: Barcelona Spain Status: Offline Points: 5093 |
Posted: April 27 2015 at 03:16 | ||
And very probably playing actual instruments will not be needed anymore, we will be able to connect our brain to a computer and just imagine music and the computer will play it loud.
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Dean
Special Collaborator Retired Admin and Amateur Layabout Joined: May 13 2007 Location: Europe Status: Offline Points: 37575 |
Posted: April 27 2015 at 04:31 | ||
Current microchipping technology is a passive transponder exactly like the security tags that stores use to prevent shoplifting. A powerful radio transmitter sends a signal to the transponder, the energy in this signal is used to power the device that then wakes up and responds with a low power radio signal containing a unique ID code, the transponder then runs out of power and shuts down. The whole sequence takes a few microseconds and the chipped person would be completely unaware that anything had happened. Within less than 20 years I suspect that human microchipping will be a very real and viable alternative to carrying around credit cards, ID cards and Passports, if only for anti-theft security. Taking this to the next level to actually stimulating specific nerves within the human body is more problematic and while research in this field is being done to repair or replace damaged nerve-interfaces, such as electrical cochlear implants to replace the cochlear completely, this research is still in its infancy and at present does not replicate coherent sound reproduction. Current cochlear implants are electromechanical devices that mechanically vibrate the cochlear to create auditory nerve impulses - there would be no gain or advantage in implanting this technology into someone who does not need it. But as you say, not 20 years but eventually (maybe).
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I suspect that 20 years is a tad more optimistic than even predicting active implants to pipe music directly into the brain. Stimulating nerve impulses with implants to feed information into the brain is infinitely easier than taking information out of the brain and interpreting specific thoughts. One reason is the human brain is a remarkable processor of sensory information that operates in a completely different way to the Von Neumann (or modified Harvard) architecture of modern computers. What you are suggesting is mind-reading and that has far wider implications than simply using brain-waves to create music. Even if we ignore the complexities of converting thought into a sequence of commands for creating music, just tapping into the nerve-impulses that we use to make vocal sounds is incredibly complex as we use our lungs, diaphragm, vocal chords, nasal and mouth cavities, tongue and lips to generate sound using the passage of exhaled air and then our ears and auditory processing to control and "tune" that sound into a musical note of precise pitch and timbre. While this is happening in real-time our brains are then working on the next sound and sequence of sounds to make in a melodic sequence. But yeah - taking a hummed melody and auto-arranging that into a tune - that's just software and it's simple enough to convert musical sound into Midi (for example) and then analyse that into key, tempo and rhythm to fit into templated arrangements of instrumentation and song structures following rule-sets we already know and use - you can have that today if someone writes the App (and they probably already have).
Edited by Dean - April 27 2015 at 04:42 |
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Guldbamsen
Special Collaborator Retired Admin Joined: January 22 2009 Location: Magic Theatre Status: Offline Points: 23098 |
Posted: April 27 2015 at 04:49 | ||
What I'm looking forward to the most is the invention of the Prog Rock Membrane, which basically is this little condom you pull over your ears. All music that reaches your ears, be that Dolly Parton, Wiz Khalifa or Willie Nelson, will then magically be transformed into prog. You will be able to program it into whatever setting that best suit your tastes too - like 'The Emerson Effect', 'Henry Cow Mayhem' as well as the more docile touch of 'Jon Anderson Lube'.
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Dean
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 05:04 | ||
Dolly Parton Prog? That would be the greatest thing since Tammy Winnett jammed with the Justified Ancients of Mu Mu... Your beauty is beyond compare eclipsed with the younger moon attained With flaming locks of auburn hair changed as almost strained Your smile is like a breath of spring I crucified my hate and held the word within Your voice is soft like summer rain We hear the total mass retain Get Up, Get Down Jolene... ...bring it on...
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Guldbamsen
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 05:09 | ||
Just the thought of Dolly and Jon's respective lyrical themes clashing is....erm..
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Dean
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Posted: April 27 2015 at 05:14 | ||
...and now I can't get the damn thing out of my head ... Get Up, Get Down, Jolene. |
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