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Originally posted by tamijo tamijo wrote:

I think is just because we are on a Prog rock fan side, that everything is put into small boxes, in real life a lot of people have a diverse music taste, and listen to Prog along side other genres, without thinging to much about if it could be consideret prog or not.


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Prog seems to remain a very exclusive type of music, for a very selected group of people that seems to be quite hard core in their beliefs (regarding music), and not a main stream trend, though it has been quite influential to many artists of other genres.
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Some prog bands in recent years have seen their albums make popular music charts (even if only for a brief moment). Whether that signifies that prog is becoming more popular is open for debate. A statistical analysis of streaming/downloading/CD sales data ought to help determine this, but who has access to that?
 
One side note I think worth mentioning is that prog rock is thriving more than it did in the 1980s because of specialty record companies devoted to prog rock and the introduction of the Internet to the wider public back in the 1990s. Everyone and their Grandma can now make their own music and put it out there for people to listen to. Admittedly that dilutes the quality, but if you have a lot of time on your hands, there are some gems out there waiting to be discovered.
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Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

However, today's Prog is ghettoized as a genre, but actually it's happen with any other genre today, i.e. one who is listening to new Prog Rock bands generally do not listen e.g. new Blues-Rock artists; 

Do you have evidence to back this up? There may well be people who listen to nothing but prog but I would expect them to be in a minority.
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Points: 12690 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 08:24
Based on the double chins and larger pants sizes of many of the skinny musicians of the 70s, I would have to say, yes, prog is getting bigger.
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Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Based on the double chins and larger pants sizes of many of the skinny musicians of the 70s, I would have to say, yes, prog is getting bigger.
 
and weren't you just picking on Steve Howe for being too thin?
 
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Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

However, today's Prog is ghettoized as a genre, but actually it's happen with any other genre today, i.e. one who is listening to new Prog Rock bands generally do not listen e.g. new Blues-Rock artists; 

Do you have evidence to back this up? There may well be people who listen to nothing but prog but I would expect them to be in a minority.

Of course, there are MANY young progressive rock musicians who experiment with e.g. Blues along with other genres as well as with that classic 70s Symphonic rock as well, and it is certain that they listen to both genres, but they are musicians, actually some new guys who are destroying the boundaries between genres, not fans who - many of them - often grumble when they hear something like that mix, and say "it's not prog"..

Actually, Prog purists were always existed, but that legendary mainstream popularity of Prog in 70s was not resting on them, because they were not many. Now the audience is almost all "purists"; or better, they even are not the purists, they simply ignore other genres. 

 
I mentioned Blues as an example, but today's distance between prog fans and pop fans is much much bigger.
In 70s, it was decently that an average prog fan's collection had at least one LP by e.g. Elton John who was a Pop icon.


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Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Based on the double chins and larger pants sizes of many of the skinny musicians of the 70s, I would have to say, yes, prog is getting bigger.
 
and weren't you just picking on Steve Howe for being too thin?
 
LOL
We can always balance out the cadaverous Howe with Greg "the Great" Lake. We can fit him in somewhere between Huron, Ontario and Superior. Wink
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^ cold, very cold indeed.  But still funny.Clap
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And I just can't believe how big it's gotten. Why, I remember when it was just a babe being cradled in its mother's arms.
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The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
 
I believe the term should be "Indie cross-over post-punk alternative art rock". It's all f*cking gibberish at this point.
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Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
 
Too many categories!  I think we should just reduce it to two: music I like and music I don't like.  The rest of you can just learn to live with my tastes. Wink
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Points: 17498 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 10:29
Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
 
I believe the term should be "Indie cross-over post-punk alternative art rock". It's all f*cking gibberish at this point.

That krapt works too....LOL
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Points: 12690 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 10:40
Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

Originally posted by The Dark Elf The Dark Elf wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
 
I believe the term should be "Indie cross-over post-punk alternative art rock". It's all f*cking gibberish at this point.

That krapt works too....LOL
Perhaps we should return to basics: either it is "good" or "bad" rock. Wink
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Originally posted by emigre80 emigre80 wrote:

Originally posted by Catcher10 Catcher10 wrote:

The term "prog rock" needs to be replaced with "cross-over prog" something like that.
 
Too many categories!  I think we should just reduce it to two: music I like and music I don't like.  The rest of you can just learn to live with my tastes. Wink

Yes, there are too many useless genre names. Clap
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Points: 7028 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 15:56
Of course prog is growing, the old bands have not disappeared so accumulation with new bands means a growing genre.
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Points: 13239 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 16:39
Originally posted by chopper chopper wrote:

Originally posted by Svetonio Svetonio wrote:

However, today's Prog is ghettoized as a genre, but actually it's happen with any other genre today, i.e. one who is listening to new Prog Rock bands generally do not listen e.g. new Blues-Rock artists; 

Do you have evidence to back this up? There may well be people who listen to nothing but prog but I would expect them to be in a minority.

A load of bs if ever there was one. This may apply to the incrowd of a progressive rock forum, but don't generalise it Svetonio.
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Points: 954 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 18:27
Originally posted by Chris S Chris S wrote:

Of course prog is growing, the old bands have not disappeared so accumulation with new bands means a growing genre.
What he said.
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Points: 518 		Direct Link To This Post Posted: May 26 2015 at 21:46
I concur that we should eliminate the whole concept of prog rock. We should consider replacing it with "total mass retain."

To prove that it is getting bigger, however, I propose that we amend the phrase to "total mass accumulate."
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