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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2015 at 19:27
How they explore musical themes, they create soundscapes, music that conjures pictures in your mind's eye.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2015 at 22:18
Originally posted by Lifeson2112 Lifeson2112 wrote:

How they explore musical themes, they create soundscapes, music that conjures pictures in your mind's eye.
Another overlooked characteristic, one that I also celebrate, as a matter of fact. Great first post!
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2015 at 22:32
How you can make the most beautiful, yet most complex music ever.
There is no dark side in the moon, really... Matter of fact, it's all dark...
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 01 2015 at 23:25
Originally posted by sublime220 sublime220 wrote:

How you can make the most beautiful, yet most complex music ever.
Translating beauty is a problem, and complexity conflates a lot of things. Any chance you can do a little more dissection?
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2015 at 03:05
partly its the contrast between noise/virtuosity/brio/technique and quiet/poetic/reflective/emotional moments, and when all that happens in one song, such as Plague of Lighthouse keepers, then I am happy.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 02 2015 at 23:30
I guess because I hate uniformity. Prog isn't all chord-verse-chord-verse stuff, and it doesn't have a similar beat to other songs, and the lyrics aren't about what most lyrics are about. With prog, you do whatever you want as long as it's creative.

Also, along with how I hate uniformity, I don't want to be the same as all the people I know by listening to the same music. I want to be different, and progressive rock is my passion.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2015 at 00:43
Originally posted by Smurph Smurph wrote:


Creativity over getting laid.
 
Not sure, anyone find this to be a quality in there music Tongue
Must be a way to make creative music, without beeing a monk.Wink
Prog is whatevey you want it to be. So dont diss other peoples prog, and they wont diss yours
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2015 at 01:22
I personally value none of it
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2015 at 16:37
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I personally value none of it
I got excited because I saw you had posted, and Gadzooks! Is it my wording, or are you trying to be the total opposite of Svetonio? Not sure where you're coming from on this. Let me know.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2015 at 21:45
anything that does not make me say that it was nice and that I am sure/believe "there were some guitars in there, somewhere.........".  Ermm
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 03 2015 at 22:02
The auditory characteristic, can't say I'm a fan of the taste or the smell...the touch is okay if I'm touching my bass to play some Rush, and the visual? Meh, I can live without it most of the time. So definitely the auditory.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2015 at 09:30
Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:


anything that does not make me say that it was nice and that I am sure/believe "there were some guitars in there, somewhere.........".  Ermm
I have a problem with music when the guitar is lacking too, although sometimes it can still be nice.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2015 at 10:12
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:


anything that does not make me say that it was nice and that I am sure/believe "there were some guitars in there, somewhere.........".  Ermm
I have a problem with music when the guitar is lacking too, although sometimes it can still be nice.
A life without ELP? Or... Hidden Lands (to name a new artist)? Cry
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2015 at 11:50
Music operates on so many different levels and for some people all they want or need is a good beat. Others demand more. I definitely need to be "involved" with the music on an intellectual level. If that happens I can then go on to pay attention to lyrics. If those are cool too then I've got a new favorite band (unless they all instrumental!!!)
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 04 2015 at 13:36
Originally posted by Formentera Lady Formentera Lady wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:


anything that does not make me say that it was nice and that I am sure/believe "there were some guitars in there, somewhere.........".  Ermm
I have a problem with music when the guitar is lacking too, although sometimes it can still be nice.
A life without ELP? Or... Hidden Lands (to name a new artist)? Cry
Yes actually, and no Gentle Giant or VDGG either. ELP is nice, I admit. I do greet Greg Lake's acoustic guitar with some relief, but I find something missing in between, much as I give a bow to Emerson's talent (and David Jackson's for VDGG) and do find it an interesting listen from time to time. It's not the same, though, for me without at least some interplay with guitar. I love synths, but even in their case I warm up to them more with a guitar as controller. I understand if you don't concur.

P.S. Upon further reflection, one of the things that I find redeeming about Emerson is his active role in consulting with testing out equipment for Robert Moog. That appeals to my superordinate interest toward innovation in timbre. This is something it seems that even the Emerson fans on this site typically gloss over, making almost exclusive reference to his playing ability.

Edited by HackettFan - July 04 2015 at 14:24
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 06:09
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

There are a number of commonly held characteristics of Progressive Rock. I attempted to list them below as best and completely as I could, although I certainly could have missed something:

A commitment to:
•Innovation in timbre
•Innovation in structure/composition/juxtaposition of material in general
•Freedom from composition/free-form/improvisation
•Innovation in time, rhythm, meter, polyrhythms...
•Exceptional musicianship, well-demonstrated capability with instruments
•Incorporation of varied styles and genres
•Innovative lyrics, subject matters, themes
•...Other

Which do you find to be the most highly valued, or what do you yourself most highly value? Why?
No, you don't have to associate yourself with just one. I don't. But maybe there is one (or two) that you rank above the others. What might it be?


All of them to some degree, but chiefly innvoation in composition etc., and innovative lyrics, subject matters and themes.

I feel that prog is simply the most interesting and exciting music of our time.  Sure, there's classical and jazz, but I feel that classical is pretty much a story that has run its course, and jazz to some degree too.  Prog, in contrast, keeps progressing.

... brought to you by the Weeping Elf

"What does Elvish rock music sound like?" - "Yes."

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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 06:37
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by Kati Kati wrote:

 
anything that does not make me say that it was nice and that I am sure/believe "there were some guitars in there, somewhere.........".  Ermm
I have a problem with music when the guitar is lacking too, although sometimes it can still be nice.
 
exactly! That's it! Without guitars or lacking great tunes, it's nice, just nice. Wink Big smile 
 
A big hug to you, HackettFanHug
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 08:12
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I personally value none of it
I got excited because I saw you had posted, and Gadzooks! Is it my wording, or are you trying to be the total opposite of Svetonio? Not sure where you're coming from on this. Let me know.

I have a great dislike for it...that's all
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 11:29
Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I personally value none of it
I got excited because I saw you had posted, and Gadzooks! Is it my wording, or are you trying to be the total opposite of Svetonio? Not sure where you're coming from on this. Let me know.


I have a great dislike for it...that's all
That's All....I hate that song too. It still seems like we're mis-communicating, though.
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Direct Link To This Post Posted: July 05 2015 at 22:30
Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

Originally posted by HackettFan HackettFan wrote:

Originally posted by TODDLER TODDLER wrote:

I personally value none of it
I got excited because I saw you had posted, and Gadzooks! Is it my wording, or are you trying to be the total opposite of Svetonio? Not sure where you're coming from on this. Let me know.


I have a great dislike for it...that's all
That's All....I hate that song too. It still seems like we're mis-communicating, though.


I have the most difficult time liking Prog..so therefore I don't value too many of it's characteristics. Progressive Rock annoys me, but that's not to say by any means that it isn't good ...or...isn't good for other people in the world besides me. 
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