S. Wilson not progressive rock?

Steven Wilson doesn't believe that there is bands that are making Progressive Rock music today. He believe that this concept of Progressive Rock music was relevant only in the 70's. He seems to think that Progressive Rock music had to be innovative to be called like this. He admits that himself take his influences from various styles and add his personal style to it. This subject has been talk here before and i was not sure if Mr. Wilson was right with those statements, but today i think he could be right. But it's not the essence of Progressive Rock music to be innovative or is it that there is not enough strong personalities that make this kind of music?

It's like some artists don't like to have  the tag "Progressive Rock" under their name like it was some kind of disease. They seems to think that Progressive is a limited genre. They should look at the PA database to see that there is more than only typical Prog here.

we could do a contest, for people that can find 5 artists past the 90's on this site that are as innovative as the big 5 of the 70's. I am sure we can have some answers.

rdtprog wrote: we could do a contest, for people that can find 5 artists past the 90's on this site that are as innovative as the big 5 of the 70's. I am sure we can have some answers.

I suppose one could come up with scores of them. Problem is most all of them are not likely to be on the radar of 'prog fan' as their music has evolved away from prog rock. Innovate means to progress.. and that means often progressing away from the cliched moth eaten stylistic norms of prog rock. 

micky wrote: rdtprog wrote: we could do a contest, for people that can find 5 artists past the 90's on this site that are as innovative as the big 5 of the 70's. I am sure we can have some answers. I suppose one could come up with scores of them. Problem is most all of them are not likely to be on the radar of 'prog fan' as their music has evolved away from prog rock. Innovate means to progress.. and that means often progressing away from the cliched moth eaten stylistic norms of prog rock.

Yes, i agree, Prog Rock is only one genre related to all kind of Progressive Music, that's why Prog is associated with others genre, like jazz, folk, electronic etc.

Wilson has flip-flopped his views on what Prog is so many times, all most likely on a pretext of what he thinks will get him the most sales, that anything he says on the subject is to be taken as nonsens and not to be trusted.

Over the 10 years I've been on this site I've seen many, many threads on the subject of what Steven Wilson considers prog and the only thing I'm left wondering is why anyone gives this midocre musician and song writers opinion the time of day?

sleeper wrote: Wilson has flip-flopped his views on what Prog is so many times, all most likely on a pretext of what he thinks will get him the most sales, that anything he says on the subject is to be taken as nonsens and not to be trusted. Over the 10 years I've been on this site I've seen many, many threads on the subject of what Steven Wilson considers prog and the only thing I'm left wondering is why anyone gives this midocre musician and song writers opinion the time of day?

This. So much this.

sleeper wrote: Wilson has flip-flopped his views on what Prog is so many times, all most likely on a pretext of what he thinks will get him the most sales, that anything he says on the subject is to be taken as nonsens and not to be trusted. Over the 10 years I've been on this site I've seen many, many threads on the subject of what Steven Wilson considers prog and the only thing I'm left wondering is why anyone gives this midocre musician and song writers opinion the time of day?

rdtprog wrote: It's like some artists don't like to have  the tag "Progressive Rock" under their name like it was some kind of disease. They seems to think that Progressive is a limited genre. They should look at the PA database to see that there is more than only typical Prog here.

sleeper wrote: Wilson has flip-flopped his views on what Prog is so many times, all most likely on a pretext of what he thinks will get him the most sales, that anything he says on the subject is to be taken as nonsens and not to be trusted. Over the 10 years I've been on this site I've seen many, many threads on the subject of what Steven Wilson considers prog and the only thing I'm left wondering is why anyone gives this midocre musician and song writers opinion the time of day?

If Wilson wanted to work to get him the most sales, he wouldn't have done an album like The Raven... nor Hand Cannon Erase, or Grace for Drowning for that matter.